Cohiba from the DR. Are these fake? - Page 2

thechrisdotcom · 11-26-2011, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill86

It's best to ask friends if they do buy you cigars to get them from a La Casa Del Habano shop. There are A LOT of fake cigars is certain countries.

Yeah, if I were to buy Cuban. But I didn't ask him to get me Cubans or anything. I told him to find me a DR made cigar since they'll be in DR. Didn't expect to have fake made DR cigars.

Sauer Grapes · 11-26-2011, 11:04 PM

There were Domican Cohiba that used a band similar to that and they were sold in the US... Those are not them though.

Drez · 11-26-2011, 11:10 PM

i will pay you for the box!!!!!!!!!!!!

thechrisdotcom · 11-26-2011, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Drez

i will pay you for the box!!!!!!!!!!!!

haha, you can have it.

Remo · 11-26-2011, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by thechrisdotcom

haha, you can have it.

Send it to me first and i'll ship it to Frank

Drez · 11-26-2011, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thechrisdotcom

haha, you can have it.

i will frame that lid!!! shows the fine time honored craftsmanship of the cohibo brand

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Originally Posted by Remo_5_0

Send it to me first and i'll ship it to Frank

shut it mike

lenguamor · 11-26-2011, 11:28 PM

That brings up a question that I hadn't even thought of until now...are Cuban cigars legal in the DR?

loki · 11-26-2011, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lenguamor

That brings up a question that I hadn't even thought of until now...are Cuban cigars legal in the DR?

why wouldn't they be, not for us citizens to buy but that's another matter entirely.

bobarian · 11-26-2011, 11:49 PM

Its amazing the amount of misinformation in this thread. The OP is 100% correct. The Dominican Cohiba's pictured are indeed limited to the DR. They are not allowed to be exported to the US due to copyright infringement. But, THEY ARE NOT FAKES! They are exactly what they proclaim to be Dominican produced Cohibas. These were exported in large quantities before the copyright case was litigated in the US courts. http://www.lexisnexis.com/community/...mark-case.aspx

Since 2006 the "Cohiba" trademark has been owned by General Cigar. General Cigar has since been purchased by Swedish Match. They also own the rights to several other previously "Cuban" trademarks such as, Ramon Allones, Bolivar and Cifuentes. I just sent a box of these pre-2006 Cohibas to Hugh(hotreds), perhaps he can post a picture.

There is not an LCDH in the Dominican Republic, nor are Cuban cigars generally available. But neither are Fuentes or most of the other Dominican rolled cigars made for US consumption, cigars are moved to a Duty Free zone and strictly regulated for export only.

The older DR Cohiba's were a mild cigar but certainly smokeable. After a few weeks rest I would not hesitate to light these up. Many fine cigars still are produced in the Dominican Republic although none use Cuban tobacco.

T.G · 11-27-2011, 12:02 AM

Fake? No. They are exactly what they claim to be... Domincan Cohibas.

There used to be two NC Cohibas. The General Cigar "red dot" and another that had a band similar to the Cuban band although the most easily identifiable difference being that it read "Republica Dominica" at the bottom. The yellow-band DR Cohibas were shut down, at least in this country, by a lawsuit by General (which they won) a few years back. According to a friend in the industry, the yellow-bands are still being produced by Monti Cristi (?spelling?), but are not for export off the island. What you have there, the cigars anyway, not necessarily the packaging though, looks to my recollection to be very similar, if not identical, to the old pre-lawsuit yellow-band DR Cohibas that were at one time sold here.

Skywalker · 11-27-2011, 12:15 AM

They make good fertilizer! Right Bob???

T.G · 11-27-2011, 12:26 AM

bobarian · 11-27-2011, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

They make good fertilizer! Right Bob???

thechrisdotcom · 11-27-2011, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

Its amazing the amount of misinformation in this thread. The OP is 100% correct. The Dominican Cohiba's pictured are indeed limited to the DR. They are not allowed to be exported to the US due to copyright infringement. But, THEY ARE NOT FAKES! They are exactly what they proclaim to be Dominican produced Cohibas. These were exported in large quantities before the copyright case was litigated in the US courts. http://www.lexisnexis.com/community/...mark-case.aspx

Since 2006 the "Cohiba" trademark has been owned by General Cigar. General Cigar has since been purchased by Swedish Match. They also own the rights to several other previously "Cuban" trademarks such as, Ramon Allones, Bolivar and Cifuentes. I just sent a box of these pre-2006 Cohibas to Hugh(hotreds), perhaps he can post a picture.

There is not an LCDH in the Dominican Republic, nor are Cuban cigars generally available. But neither are Fuentes or most of the other Dominican rolled cigars made for US consumption, cigars are moved to a Duty Free zone and strictly regulated for export only.

The older DR Cohiba's were a mild cigar but certainly smokeable. After a few weeks rest I would not hesitate to light these up. Many fine cigars still are produced in the Dominican Republic although none use Cuban tobacco.

Yeah, I read some stuff about that.

The only thing that got me was the poorly made box with the Cohiba face facing the wrong direction and the poorly constructed cigar. It felt soft and not fulled packed well. It has a few softer spots in areas.

ckay · 11-27-2011, 08:57 AM

I would not smoke that thing even with the promise of a Family Reserve 45 or Siglo VI upon completion.

MurphysLaw · 11-27-2011, 09:18 AM

Here's a pic of a yellow band DR Cohiba I have in my edgestar, this was gifted to me so I can't comment on what the box looked like, but the band is very different the gold letters are raised on mine, and the cigar is evenly filled and looks to be good construction.

shilala · 11-27-2011, 09:39 AM

Yes, they're Dominican Cohibas.
They make cigars all over Dominican. You can get someone to roll you one pretty much anywhere. I have a couple I got in Punta Cana and have seen the ones you got in gift shops.
That said, they are what they are. I smoked a couple Dominican home-rolleds while I was there and they were okay. They were super wet, but they're supposed to be super wet when you just rolled them.
My suggeston is that you smoke one right away so you get that same soggy experience. It's fun. Then set them back and try them again later. They might be good, maybe not.

They don't really mean any harm down there in using the "big names". They use them jokingly. I saw 100 Walmarts that were junk stores. Right next to our resort was a string of shacks that ran from Walmart to Macy's to Kmart, etc. Each shop used a different "big store name". It was just meant to display a sense of humor.
I think that's exactly what you're looking at here.

the nub · 11-27-2011, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by thechrisdotcom

Now I'm no pro when it comes to Cohibas, cuz I don't smoke these things.

But isn't the face supposed to be facing the other direction?

actually, in this case the face should be facing down and there should be a picture of a toilet also since you'll probably be heaving a few after smoking these.

Blak Smyth · 11-27-2011, 12:42 PM

I saw some DR cohibas in California this last week. The did not have the red dot label, they had a label that looked the same as the CCs but it said DR at the bottom of the label. They where very nicely constructed visually and everything seemed well made, even the box.

The pics that Murphy's law posted are the same as what I saw.

chaase321 · 11-28-2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill86

It's best to ask friends if they do buy you cigars to get them from a La Casa Del Habano shop. There are A LOT of fake cigars is certain countries.

+1 That's where I send all my gift giving buddies!

11-26-2011, 11:04 PM	#22
Sauer Grapes Snatchin' yo people up Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,235 Trading: (44)	Re: Cohiba from the DR. Are these fake? There were Domican Cohiba that used a band similar to that and they were sold in the US... Those are not them though.

11-26-2011, 11:10 PM	#23
Drez The Warden Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Frank Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,768 Trading: (35)	Re: Cohiba from the DR. Are these fake? i will pay you for the box!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ They aren't going to multiply....burn that b!tch!

11-26-2011, 11:28 PM	#27
lenguamor puta por Ninfas! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joe Location: The 305 again! Posts: 1,030 Trading: (23)	Re: Cohiba from the DR. Are these fake? That brings up a question that I hadn't even thought of until now...are Cuban cigars legal in the DR? __________________

11-26-2011, 11:49 PM	#29
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Cohiba from the DR. Are these fake? Its amazing the amount of misinformation in this thread. The OP is 100% correct. The Dominican Cohiba's pictured are indeed limited to the DR. They are not allowed to be exported to the US due to copyright infringement. But, THEY ARE NOT FAKES! They are exactly what they proclaim to be Dominican produced Cohibas. These were exported in large quantities before the copyright case was litigated in the US courts. http://www.lexisnexis.com/community/...mark-case.aspx Since 2006 the "Cohiba" trademark has been owned by General Cigar. General Cigar has since been purchased by Swedish Match. They also own the rights to several other previously "Cuban" trademarks such as, Ramon Allones, Bolivar and Cifuentes. I just sent a box of these pre-2006 Cohibas to Hugh(hotreds), perhaps he can post a picture. There is not an LCDH in the Dominican Republic, nor are Cuban cigars generally available. But neither are Fuentes or most of the other Dominican rolled cigars made for US consumption, cigars are moved to a Duty Free zone and strictly regulated for export only. The older DR Cohiba's were a mild cigar but certainly smokeable. After a few weeks rest I would not hesitate to light these up. Many fine cigars still are produced in the Dominican Republic although none use Cuban tobacco.

11-27-2011, 12:02 AM	#30
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,557 Trading: (37)	Re: Cohiba from the DR. Are these fake? Fake? No. They are exactly what they claim to be... Domincan Cohibas. There used to be two NC Cohibas. The General Cigar "red dot" and another that had a band similar to the Cuban band although the most easily identifiable difference being that it read "Republica Dominica" at the bottom. The yellow-band DR Cohibas were shut down, at least in this country, by a lawsuit by General (which they won) a few years back. According to a friend in the industry, the yellow-bands are still being produced by Monti Cristi (?spelling?), but are not for export off the island. What you have there, the cigars anyway, not necessarily the packaging though, looks to my recollection to be very similar, if not identical, to the old pre-lawsuit yellow-band DR Cohibas that were at one time sold here.

11-27-2011, 12:15 AM	#31
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: Cohiba from the DR. Are these fake? They make good fertilizer! Right Bob??? __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

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T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,557 Trading: (37)	Re: Cohiba from the DR. Are these fake?

11-27-2011, 08:57 AM	#35
ckay Still Watching My Back Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 71 Trading: (0)	Re: Cohiba from the DR. Are these fake? I would not smoke that thing even with the promise of a Family Reserve 45 or Siglo VI upon completion.

11-27-2011, 09:18 AM	#36
MurphysLaw Anything can go wrong Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: Brian Location: SoFlo Posts: 2,823 Trading: (19)	Re: Cohiba from the DR. Are these fake? Here's a pic of a yellow band DR Cohiba I have in my edgestar, this was gifted to me so I can't comment on what the box looked like, but the band is very different the gold letters are raised on mine, and the cigar is evenly filled and looks to be good construction. __________________ It's THIS easy to help our Troops.

11-27-2011, 09:39 AM	#37
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Cohiba from the DR. Are these fake? Yes, they're Dominican Cohibas. They make cigars all over Dominican. You can get someone to roll you one pretty much anywhere. I have a couple I got in Punta Cana and have seen the ones you got in gift shops. That said, they are what they are. I smoked a couple Dominican home-rolleds while I was there and they were okay. They were super wet, but they're supposed to be super wet when you just rolled them. My suggeston is that you smoke one right away so you get that same soggy experience. It's fun. Then set them back and try them again later. They might be good, maybe not. They don't really mean any harm down there in using the "big names". They use them jokingly. I saw 100 Walmarts that were junk stores. Right next to our resort was a string of shacks that ran from Walmart to Macy's to Kmart, etc. Each shop used a different "big store name". It was just meant to display a sense of humor. I think that's exactly what you're looking at here. __________________

11-27-2011, 12:42 PM	#39
Blak Smyth Think Blue! Join Date: Jun 2011 First Name: SD Location: THE WOOD Posts: 8,486 Trading: (52)	Re: Cohiba from the DR. Are these fake? I saw some DR cohibas in California this last week. The did not have the red dot label, they had a label that looked the same as the CCs but it said DR at the bottom of the label. They where very nicely constructed visually and everything seemed well made, even the box. The pics that Murphy's law posted are the same as what I saw. __________________ SUPPORT OUR TROOPS