Illusione Ultra = Ultra bad! - Page 2

shilala · 09-03-2011, 11:20 AM

Although Dion's response was maybe a bit cheeky, he's right on the money.
I mean no disrespect when I say "If a plugged cigar is going to effect you so dramatically as to ruin your night, you may want to try another hobby."
You're going to experience more plugged cigars, for sure. If you start smoking cc's, you can expect LOTS. It happens, and it always will.
Cigar smoking is supposed to be relaxing, brother. Maybe if you expect them all to be plugged, then it'll make your night if a particular cigar isn't plugged?
At any rate, I think you kinda went off the deep end on this, and I can say that from experience. I've gone off the edge more than once, myself.

I just hope you can forget this and start enjoying your smokes again.

On a personal level, I don't smoke Illusione's because I don't care for Dion's persona, or the weird ideas and thoughts he's put out there in the past. His response to you was really no surprise to me at all. As far as I'm concerned, he can suck it.

09-13-2011, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala

On a personal level, I don't smoke Illusione's because I don't care for Dion's persona, or the weird ideas and thoughts he's put out there in the past. His response to you was really no surprise to me at all. As far as I'm concerned, he can suck it.

I can't get over this post!

I have nothing against Dion and I love me some Illusione, but Scott's post is just to funny to ignore!

Brooks W · 09-03-2011, 11:45 AM

Some of these (and the Maduros) shipped a bit wet, but that cleared up after sitting a while...

The Mk Ultras are a great cigar, and I love the size...

Dion's stuff is NOT usually problematic, in fact, I have had VERY few problems construction wise with his sticks, and most have been exceptional...

Zach, send me your address, and I will send you another Ultra from my box, that I am sure you will not have a problem with

~brooks

ZachF88 · 09-03-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Brooks W

Zach, send me your address, and I will send you another Ultra from my box, that I am sure you will not have a problem with

~brooks

Thank you for the offer, but you don't have to do this to make things right.

Brooks W · 09-03-2011, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachF88

Thank you for the offer, but you don't have to do this to make things right.

It is what BOTLs do...

PM ADDRESS

~brooks

ZachF88 · 09-03-2011, 11:54 AM

Well I will admit I probably did do over the edge a bit on this one. I've had many plugged cigars (including cc's) in the past, but they were still smokable (just a really hard draw). I haven't had time the past 2 weeks to smoke a cigar, nor can I really waste $9 right now, since my dog had hip surgery over a week ago. I only had about a 75 minute window to myself last night and I ended up spending a good 30 mins trying to get this plugged cigar lit. Again, sorry if I went off a tad, but I ultimately emailed Illusione to provide my feedback. I took Dion's reply as tongue-in-cheek.

Certainly, everyone is in-titled to their own opinion. I just hope you brothers don't end up with a cigar like this, whether or not it's an Illusione.

In the future, is there anything at all that can unplug a plugged cigar, besides long-aging?

kelmac07 · 09-03-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ZachF88

In the future, is there anything at all that can unplug a plugged cigar, besides long-aging?

Draw tools work wonders on a plugged stick.

Skywalker · 09-03-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07

Draw tools work wonders on a plugged stick.

Here's a "plug" for my friend boom! He makes some very nice draw tools!

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showpo...18&postcount=1

Pat1075 · 09-03-2011, 12:51 PM

I just cut my cigar then give a test draw if it doesn't draw it goes back in the humi until it will. Often times this system works out.

thechrisdotcom · 09-03-2011, 12:53 PM

I've smoked a couple Illusiones but never had a draw problem. I do find them to be pretty strong in strength for me which kind of turns me off. They kick my arse.

CigarNut · 09-03-2011, 01:28 PM

I have good and bad cigars from many different manufacturers. Although a good or great cigar can really make my day, I don't let a bad cigar ruin my day. Life's too short...

Skywalker · 09-03-2011, 02:08 PM

Way to go, Brooks!!!

Fordman4ever · 09-04-2011, 09:14 AM

you could just send me your other illusions. I'll dispose of them for you.

But seriously, I wouldn't let one cigar ruin a whole brand for you.

Ogre · 09-05-2011, 09:38 AM

As to Dion's response. The problem with Email and texting is that it is one demential. He may have taken what you wrote vary serious and will follow up on it. I am sure he receives 100's of emails about his products (good and bad). I am impressed that at least he responded personally. He could have sent a canned response and just blow you off. I am not trying to make excuses for him, but look at what someone in his position deals with on a daily basses. just my two cents.

Skywalker · 09-05-2011, 07:19 PM

Reporting my findings:

Very enjoybale cigar with a great draw and no burn issues!

BTW - It was the first cigar out of a newly opened box!

I think the OP should give these another chance.

TheRiddick · 09-05-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

Reporting my findings:

Very enjoybale cigar with a great draw and no burn issues!

BTW - It was the first cigar out of a newly opened box!

I think the OP should give these another chance.

Looks like you made the trip down... I wanted to stop by, but got tied up with work...

Powers · 09-05-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ogre

As to Dion's response. The problem with Email and texting is that it is one demential. He may have taken what you wrote vary serious and will follow up on it. I am sure he receives 100's of emails about his products (good and bad). I am impressed that at least he responded personally. He could have sent a canned response and just blow you off. I am not trying to make excuses for him, but look at what someone in his position deals with on a daily basses. just my two cents.

I agree, texting and e-mail do not convey the tone of a response; which often implies the good or ill-willed nature. I can surely understand your OP frustration at looking forward to a new cigar brand, being on a budget and having limited time (all of which I struggle with), but with a respected brand like Illusione I would suggest not letting one bad experience turn you off.

Illusione is right up there with my personal favorite non-CC brand and I haven't had a draw problem that I can recall.

PS - a glass of bourbon always buts things in perspective while you smoke

Blak Smyth · 09-06-2011, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ogre

As to Dion's response. The problem with Email and texting is that it is one demential. He may have taken what you wrote vary serious and will follow up on it. I am sure he receives 100's of emails about his products (good and bad). I am impressed that at least he responded personally. He could have sent a canned response and just blow you off. I am not trying to make excuses for him, but look at what someone in his position deals with on a daily basses. just my two cents.

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Originally Posted by UFPowersmoker320

I agree, texting and e-mail do not convey the tone of a response; which often implies the good or ill-willed nature. I can surely understand your OP frustration at looking forward to a new cigar brand, being on a budget and having limited time (all of which I struggle with), but with a respected brand like Illusione I would suggest not letting one bad experience turn you off.

I agree this can be very misconstrued and appear out of context through e-mail and texting. How many times have we seen it happen on forums such as this one?!? Dion may have taken your e-mail as offensive, we don't know what you wrote or how it appeared to the reader, so it may just all be a missunderstanding. I was impressed with his fast response, but I too would have taken his reply negatively without knowing the depth of the original e-mail.
I have only had a couple Illusiones so far but none of them had any issues.
This is a great manufacturer and the cigar business is better with them in it, I would give them another try.

Weelok · 09-13-2011, 11:39 PM

Hah well email sucks as a communication tool for sure. I'm impressed you got a response at all!! Try getting one out of Gracliff or Padron

I've had a few Illusione's with tough draws but they were smokable and tasty. Same goes for Don Pepin Torpedos which can have firm draws. Stems are a bummer too. But I'll still smoke the hell out of Illusione's and Pepins.

D. Generate · 09-06-2011, 05:13 AM

If you're looking for perfection, you've got the wrong hobby. I've sat on on boxes of very expensive ELs for years to finally light one up on a special occasion only to find every cigar is plugged or a dud. It happens and if it completely ruins your night, then cigar smoking might not be for you.

I think Dion's response, both times, was spot on. I've smoked a fair few Illusiones and never had a problem with them. I frequent Fumare every time I'm back home in Reno and find Dion's service and merchandise to be top notch. I'm honestly not sure what the big fuss is here or why the need for a rant.

09-03-2011, 11:20 AM	#1
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Illusione Ultra = Ultra bad! Although Dion's response was maybe a bit cheeky, he's right on the money. I mean no disrespect when I say "If a plugged cigar is going to effect you so dramatically as to ruin your night, you may want to try another hobby." You're going to experience more plugged cigars, for sure. If you start smoking cc's, you can expect LOTS. It happens, and it always will. Cigar smoking is supposed to be relaxing, brother. Maybe if you expect them all to be plugged, then it'll make your night if a particular cigar isn't plugged? At any rate, I think you kinda went off the deep end on this, and I can say that from experience. I've gone off the edge more than once, myself. I just hope you can forget this and start enjoying your smokes again. On a personal level, I don't smoke Illusione's because I don't care for Dion's persona, or the weird ideas and thoughts he's put out there in the past. His response to you was really no surprise to me at all. As far as I'm concerned, he can suck it. __________________

09-03-2011, 11:45 AM	#3
Brooks W Feeling at Home Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 833 Trading: (70)	Re: Illusione Ultra = Ultra bad! Some of these (and the Maduros) shipped a bit wet, but that cleared up after sitting a while... The Mk Ultras are a great cigar, and I love the size... Dion's stuff is NOT usually problematic, in fact, I have had VERY few problems construction wise with his sticks, and most have been exceptional... Zach, send me your address, and I will send you another Ultra from my box, that I am sure you will not have a problem with ~brooks

09-03-2011, 11:54 AM	#6
ZachF88 Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Zach Location: Denver, CO Posts: 510 Trading: (32)	Re: Illusione Ultra = Ultra bad! Well I will admit I probably did do over the edge a bit on this one. I've had many plugged cigars (including cc's) in the past, but they were still smokable (just a really hard draw). I haven't had time the past 2 weeks to smoke a cigar, nor can I really waste $9 right now, since my dog had hip surgery over a week ago. I only had about a 75 minute window to myself last night and I ended up spending a good 30 mins trying to get this plugged cigar lit. Again, sorry if I went off a tad, but I ultimately emailed Illusione to provide my feedback. I took Dion's reply as tongue-in-cheek. Certainly, everyone is in-titled to their own opinion. I just hope you brothers don't end up with a cigar like this, whether or not it's an Illusione. In the future, is there anything at all that can unplug a plugged cigar, besides long-aging?

09-03-2011, 12:51 PM	#9
Pat1075 Feeling at Home Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Patrick Location: Lakewood, OH Posts: 755 Trading: (11)	Re: Illusione Ultra = Ultra bad! I just cut my cigar then give a test draw if it doesn't draw it goes back in the humi until it will. Often times this system works out.

09-03-2011, 12:53 PM	#10
thechrisdotcom . Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 601 Trading: (2)	Re: Illusione Ultra = Ultra bad! I've smoked a couple Illusiones but never had a draw problem. I do find them to be pretty strong in strength for me which kind of turns me off. They kick my arse.

09-03-2011, 01:28 PM	#11
CigarNut Fck Cancer! Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Michael Location: Clermont, Florida Posts: 18,042 Trading: (111*)	Re: Illusione Ultra = Ultra bad! I have good and bad cigars from many different manufacturers. Although a good or great cigar can really make my day, I don't let a bad cigar ruin my day. Life's too short... __________________ Need Beads? Need Five Finger Bags? 2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/ participation in trade (trader rating). New members can be added at any time.

09-03-2011, 02:08 PM	#12
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: Illusione Ultra = Ultra bad! Way to go, Brooks!!! __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

09-04-2011, 09:14 AM	#13
Fordman4ever Redneck driving a ricer!! Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: Earl Location: A place too cold to smoke outside Posts: 2,508 Trading: (26)	Re: Illusione Ultra = Ultra bad! you could just send me your other illusions. I'll dispose of them for you. But seriously, I wouldn't let one cigar ruin a whole brand for you.

09-05-2011, 09:38 AM	#14
Ogre **CENSORED** Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Larry Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,068 Trading: (46)	Re: Illusione Ultra = Ultra bad! As to Dion's response. The problem with Email and texting is that it is one demential. He may have taken what you wrote vary serious and will follow up on it. I am sure he receives 100's of emails about his products (good and bad). I am impressed that at least he responded personally. He could have sent a canned response and just blow you off. I am not trying to make excuses for him, but look at what someone in his position deals with on a daily basses. just my two cents. __________________

09-05-2011, 07:19 PM	#15
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: Illusione Ultra = Ultra bad! Reporting my findings: Very enjoybale cigar with a great draw and no burn issues! BTW - It was the first cigar out of a newly opened box! I think the OP should give these another chance. __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

09-13-2011, 11:39 PM	#19
Weelok I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2011 First Name: Dave Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,124 Trading: (21)	Re: Illusione Ultra = Ultra bad! Hah well email sucks as a communication tool for sure. I'm impressed you got a response at all!! Try getting one out of Gracliff or Padron I've had a few Illusione's with tough draws but they were smokable and tasty. Same goes for Don Pepin Torpedos which can have firm draws. Stems are a bummer too. But I'll still smoke the hell out of Illusione's and Pepins.

09-06-2011, 05:13 AM	#20
D. Generate El Dudarino Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Dale Location: London Posts: 217 Trading: (1)	Re: Illusione Ultra = Ultra bad! If you're looking for perfection, you've got the wrong hobby. I've sat on on boxes of very expensive ELs for years to finally light one up on a special occasion only to find every cigar is plugged or a dud. It happens and if it completely ruins your night, then cigar smoking might not be for you. I think Dion's response, both times, was spot on. I've smoked a fair few Illusiones and never had a problem with them. I frequent Fumare every time I'm back home in Reno and find Dion's service and merchandise to be top notch. I'm honestly not sure what the big fuss is here or why the need for a rant. __________________ What would Lemmy do?