Are cuban cigars really the best? - Page 2

Prefy · 09-27-2009, 11:58 AM

Smoke what you like...like what you smoke!

Personally from what I have smoked on either side I would have to say that I prefer Cuban Leaf.

Don Fernando · 09-27-2009, 12:01 PM

I can get Cubans legally here and they are easier to get then Non Cubans, still I smoke more Non Cubans as there is so much more to explore and there are some fabulous NC's out there, just as fabulous CC's. And there are also a lot of terrible NC's and some terrible CC's.

Starscream · 09-27-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa

This is an oustanding question. It is my personal belief, based on extensive research both here and abroad, that there is no such thing as a Cuban cigar, that it is a myth create and perpetrated by the cigar elite to further their own ends

The cat's out of the bag now. You weren't supposed to tell on us, Vic.

akumushi · 09-27-2009, 12:05 PM

I think the split is between whether you like medium bodied, spicy cigars in a small ring gauge, or thicker, more heavy bodied maduros. Lovers of the former tend to prefer CCs, lovers of the latter prefer NCs. Cuban tobacco has a richness and flavor that NCs have a hard time competing with but their construction and consistency pales in comparison to most average NCs. I personally have stopped buying NCs as the only ones I like (Padron, Tatuaje, Pepin, Illusione) are slightly more expensive than CCs. If CCs were legalized in the US and the prices jumped up to the way they are in Canada because of taxes, then I would probably find myself smoking more Tats and Illusione because they would then be cheaper. I would say that there are NCs and CCs to suit pretty much any taste and some (but not all) of the best smokes I've had are CCs, so they are definitely worth trying!

09-27-2009, 12:06 PM

I'm half Cuban but live in CA and for a time I was seeking CC's kinda for the same reason I was into Native Tribal music and Aztec dancing etc. I tried a few varieties during the last couple of years and one a very long time ago. I've never gotten one for $6 a stick as some apparently have. The best sticks I have had came from another country for MORE than $15 a stick but have been my favorite cigar ever. They are the Cohiba Siglo 2 and I loved them. The problem I find with CC's is it's been a huge amount of trouble to get in my experience to get them and half of the authenticity has to come with a grain of salt. All in all though, the CC's I've had are all as good or better than most NC's that I've had.

Ashcan Bill · 09-27-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rogerdodger

newbie here
never tried one, not sure if id apreciate it anyway.
are they much better than the $15 and up cigars than we can currently purchase?

Better?

Are they better in terms of depth, flavor and taste? In my opinion, yes.

Are they better in terms of consistent and reliable construction? In my opinion, no.

Are they a better dollar-for-dollar value? I'd say emphatically yes.

icehog3 · 09-27-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Prefy

Smoke what you like...like what you smoke!

I prefer Cuban Leaf.

Funny how you think of what you are going to say after reading the original post....then scroll down, and someone says pretty much exactly what you were going to say.

Matt said it for me.

GTCanuk · 09-27-2009, 12:41 PM

yes

troutbreath · 09-27-2009, 01:19 PM

Great comments on this thread. "Better" is completely dependent upon what YOU want in a cigar.

There are very good NC's out there, and I enjoy them. The few CC's I have had have been enjoyable. Different. Also very good.

09-27-2009, 01:28 PM

I like cake and pie.
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Texan in Mexico · 09-27-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by leasingthisspace

I like cake and pie.
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In this case cake = Padrons and pie = Juan Lopez!

htown · 09-27-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashcan Bill

Better?

Are they better in terms of depth, flavor and taste? In my opinion, yes.

Are they better in terms of consistent and reliable construction? In my opinion, no.

Are they a better dollar-for-dollar value? I'd say emphatically yes.

What he said! Now I think I'll go smoke a Bolivar PC.

Bax · 09-27-2009, 01:39 PM

I'm about a 50/50 CC vs. NC smoker right now. For strength and spice the NC's have it hands down. As for depth and nuance it's CC's.
I prefer a medium strength cigar so the cubans are right up my alley. The price is another huge factor.

You choose, a box of Fuentes for 400 bucks or a box of Party shorts and a box of Montes #4's and a box Bolivar Gold Medals. For me, it's a no brainer.

Mugen910 · 09-27-2009, 01:48 PM

No..don't waste your time asking or even looking for Cubans...you stick to Non-Cubans..

09-27-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shvictor

I kinda like NC's better

don pepin garcia...he uses non cuban tobac and makes em way tastier!

icehog3 · 09-27-2009, 01:50 PM

To each his own.

09-27-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

To each his own.

thats the only real answer actually....

hotreds · 09-27-2009, 01:58 PM

De gustibus non est disputandum.

icehog3 · 09-27-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Red

thats the only real answer actually....

It's what makes the World go 'round.

icehog3 · 09-27-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds

De gustibus non est disputandum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_gust...st_disputandum

09-27-2009, 11:58 AM	#21
Prefy Connoisseur of Pucks Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Matt Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba Posts: 549 Trading: (5)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? Smoke what you like...like what you smoke! Personally from what I have smoked on either side I would have to say that I prefer Cuban Leaf.

09-27-2009, 12:01 PM	#22
Don Fernando Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ferdinand Location: Singapore Posts: 10,070 Trading: (29)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? I can get Cubans legally here and they are easier to get then Non Cubans, still I smoke more Non Cubans as there is so much more to explore and there are some fabulous NC's out there, just as fabulous CC's. And there are also a lot of terrible NC's and some terrible CC's. __________________ check out my reviews on my blog.

09-27-2009, 12:05 PM	#24
akumushi Habanos Apologist Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,298 Trading: (11)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? I think the split is between whether you like medium bodied, spicy cigars in a small ring gauge, or thicker, more heavy bodied maduros. Lovers of the former tend to prefer CCs, lovers of the latter prefer NCs. Cuban tobacco has a richness and flavor that NCs have a hard time competing with but their construction and consistency pales in comparison to most average NCs. I personally have stopped buying NCs as the only ones I like (Padron, Tatuaje, Pepin, Illusione) are slightly more expensive than CCs. If CCs were legalized in the US and the prices jumped up to the way they are in Canada because of taxes, then I would probably find myself smoking more Tats and Illusione because they would then be cheaper. I would say that there are NCs and CCs to suit pretty much any taste and some (but not all) of the best smokes I've had are CCs, so they are definitely worth trying!

09-27-2009, 12:06 PM	#25
mariogolbee Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? I'm half Cuban but live in CA and for a time I was seeking CC's kinda for the same reason I was into Native Tribal music and Aztec dancing etc. I tried a few varieties during the last couple of years and one a very long time ago. I've never gotten one for $6 a stick as some apparently have. The best sticks I have had came from another country for MORE than $15 a stick but have been my favorite cigar ever. They are the Cohiba Siglo 2 and I loved them. The problem I find with CC's is it's been a huge amount of trouble to get in my experience to get them and half of the authenticity has to come with a grain of salt. All in all though, the CC's I've had are all as good or better than most NC's that I've had.

09-27-2009, 12:41 PM	#28
GTCanuk Still Watching My Back Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Paul (AKA Darrel) Location: Windsor. ON Posts: 248 Trading: (0)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? yes

09-27-2009, 01:19 PM	#29
troutbreath Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: The Dash, NC Posts: 706 Trading: (0)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? Great comments on this thread. "Better" is completely dependent upon what YOU want in a cigar. There are very good NC's out there, and I enjoy them. The few CC's I have had have been enjoyable. Different. Also very good.

09-27-2009, 01:28 PM	#30
leasingthisspace Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? I like cake and pie. Posted via Mobile Device

09-27-2009, 01:39 PM	#33
Bax C A P S...CAPS CAPS CAPS! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Ringgold,GA Posts: 2,173 Trading: (70)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? I'm about a 50/50 CC vs. NC smoker right now. For strength and spice the NC's have it hands down. As for depth and nuance it's CC's. I prefer a medium strength cigar so the cubans are right up my alley. The price is another huge factor. You choose, a box of Fuentes for 400 bucks or a box of Party shorts and a box of Montes #4's and a box Bolivar Gold Medals. For me, it's a no brainer. __________________ I'm the most interesting man in the world... but only if you find stupid stuff really interesting.

09-27-2009, 01:48 PM	#34
Mugen910 I <3 Huy Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Location Location: First Name Posts: 8,387 Trading: (106)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? No..don't waste your time asking or even looking for Cubans...you stick to Non-Cubans.. __________________ I'm not antisocial, I just think people are stupid.

09-27-2009, 01:50 PM	#36
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,440 Trading: (60)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? To each his own. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

09-27-2009, 01:58 PM	#38
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,665 Trading: (63)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? De gustibus non est disputandum. __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.