Is this a beetle? - Page 2

02-24-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan

Further down, where the shadow is, there are actually two clean round holes that go in further.

Pic?

Sauer Grapes · 02-24-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverFox

You don't need to do a tap test in my opionion it is beetle for sure, I would be willing to bet that little white sluggy looking thing is the critter (in larval stage) himself.

100% correct.

I'd send them back.

What kind of cigar was it? What vendor?

02-24-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe

It could be a beetle hole... but I have never seen one so chewed up before. All of the beetle holes I have seen have been very clean, round holes.

I agree with Joe on this one,,,could be that your Beetles are a bit messy or are in bad need of some dental work.

s15driftking · 02-24-2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes

What kind of cigar was it? What vendor?

i second this!

Silound · 02-24-2009, 11:47 PM

I've seen a lot of beetles at work before, and you sir have a beetle larva munching away on your cigar. That's what the little off-white colored thing is at the end of the hole in the picture.

The channel where he chewed clearly shows small round particulate matter, which is consistent with larva excretions.

Freeze the lot, or better yet get them replaced.

Teeznutz · 02-24-2009, 11:52 PM

Sorry to see this.....Good Luck!

Genetic Defect · 02-24-2009, 11:54 PM

no.

Tio Gato · 02-25-2009, 05:14 AM

Yup. You got the cooties.

Mikepd · 02-25-2009, 08:07 AM

That is what is referred to as a track. It is caused by beetles moving from side to side after partially burrowing out of the cigar. Also it appears in your picture to show two semi-matured larva. One is to the far right of that track, that whiteish looking line, the other being right in the middle of the track whaere it bends, it appears to be deeper inside the cigar and is also a pale white color. If the beetles have hatched and matured enough to this stage in these cigars, it more than likely means the cigars were exposed to poor conditions a while ago. I would bet that freezing is useless now as the beetles have all ready hatched in other cigars and have started munching the insides of other cigars. If you can return them i would do that, otherwise i'd likely smoke one and see how it is. You may be interested in taking another cigar that doesnt show damage yet and cut it open to find out beetle stages in there.

hotreds · 02-25-2009, 10:08 AM

I, too, would like to know where you got these and what marca it is.

Scottw · 02-25-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrell

It looks like a hole in the wrapper. When I've seen beetles eat through a stick they eat through the wrapper, binder, filler, etc.

I agree, it actually looks like a small perferation.

Scottw · 02-25-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikepd

That is what is referred to as a track. It is caused by beetles moving from side to side after partially burrowing out of the cigar. Also it appears in your picture to show two semi-matured larva. One is to the far right of that track, that whiteish looking line, the other being right in the middle of the track whaere it bends, it appears to be deeper inside the cigar and is also a pale white color. If the beetles have hatched and matured enough to this stage in these cigars, it more than likely means the cigars were exposed to poor conditions a while ago. I would bet that freezing is useless now as the beetles have all ready hatched in other cigars and have started munching the insides of other cigars. If you can return them i would do that, otherwise i'd likely smoke one and see how it is. You may be interested in taking another cigar that doesnt show damage yet and cut it open to find out beetle stages in there.

Holy crap, that's one heck on an explanation.

shilala · 02-25-2009, 10:22 AM

I'd bet my stash on it.
Mikepd's explanation is perfect. If you're outdoorsy at all, grew up in the woods, raised animals, kept bees, or lived on a farm, you get real used to what boring larvae tracks look like.

themoneycollector · 02-25-2009, 11:08 AM

Yep, you got a beetle problem

Pat1075 · 02-25-2009, 11:19 AM

I'm voting yes

Volusianator · 02-25-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mi2az

Ahhh

Smoke it and kill it

LOL, man I love the sound of a beetle getting fried, that snap you get is just music to my ears knowing one of those little bastages will no longer do any damage.

borndead1 · 02-25-2009, 01:24 PM

If you just got them, send them back.

michael88n · 02-25-2009, 01:38 PM

Damn. That gives me the Heebie Jeebies.

02-25-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikepd

That is what is referred to as a track. It is caused by beetles moving from side to side after partially burrowing out of the cigar. Also it appears in your picture to show two semi-matured larva. One is to the far right of that track, that whiteish looking line, the other being right in the middle of the track whaere it bends, it appears to be deeper inside the cigar and is also a pale white color. If the beetles have hatched and matured enough to this stage in these cigars, it more than likely means the cigars were exposed to poor conditions a while ago. I would bet that freezing is useless now as the beetles have all ready hatched in other cigars and have started munching the insides of other cigars. If you can return them i would do that, otherwise i'd likely smoke one and see how it is. You may be interested in taking another cigar that doesnt show damage yet and cut it open to find out beetle stages in there.

100% agree. Great, now I've got to go inspect my entire stash or else not sleep.

md4958 · 02-25-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell

It looks like a hole in the wrapper. When I've seen beetles eat through a stick they eat through the wrapper, binder, filler, etc.

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Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe

It could be a beetle hole... but I have never seen one so chewed up before. All of the beetle holes I have seen have been very clean, round holes.

notice the tunnels on all the sticks

02-24-2009, 11:47 PM	#25
Silound ex-CS Swamp Gorilla Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere in a swamp, south of sanity Posts: 802 Trading: (15)	Re: Is this a beetle? I've seen a lot of beetles at work before, and you sir have a beetle larva munching away on your cigar. That's what the little off-white colored thing is at the end of the hole in the picture. The channel where he chewed clearly shows small round particulate matter, which is consistent with larva excretions. Freeze the lot, or better yet get them replaced. __________________ Back in black, and better than ever! You can't keep a good gorilla down! LSU Geaux Tigers!

02-24-2009, 11:52 PM	#26
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02-24-2009, 11:54 PM	#27
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02-25-2009, 05:14 AM	#28
Tio Gato Uncle Kitty Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeff Location: Casa Grande, AZ Posts: 2,075 Trading: (11)	Re: Is this a beetle? Yup. You got the cooties. __________________ "You stink like cigars Uncle Kitty!" Said my Boo age 3. "Kid, take care of your family and the hell with anyone else" My Grandpa Bubba.

02-25-2009, 08:07 AM	#29
Mikepd I Miss Pnoon Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Michael Location: St. Pete, FL Posts: 580 Trading: (10)	Re: Is this a beetle? That is what is referred to as a track. It is caused by beetles moving from side to side after partially burrowing out of the cigar. Also it appears in your picture to show two semi-matured larva. One is to the far right of that track, that whiteish looking line, the other being right in the middle of the track whaere it bends, it appears to be deeper inside the cigar and is also a pale white color. If the beetles have hatched and matured enough to this stage in these cigars, it more than likely means the cigars were exposed to poor conditions a while ago. I would bet that freezing is useless now as the beetles have all ready hatched in other cigars and have started munching the insides of other cigars. If you can return them i would do that, otherwise i'd likely smoke one and see how it is. You may be interested in taking another cigar that doesnt show damage yet and cut it open to find out beetle stages in there.

02-25-2009, 10:08 AM	#30
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02-25-2009, 10:22 AM	#33
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Is this a beetle? I'd bet my stash on it. Mikepd's explanation is perfect. If you're outdoorsy at all, grew up in the woods, raised animals, kept bees, or lived on a farm, you get real used to what boring larvae tracks look like. __________________

02-25-2009, 11:08 AM	#34
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02-25-2009, 11:19 AM	#35
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02-25-2009, 01:24 PM	#37
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02-25-2009, 01:38 PM	#38
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