is it wrong to withold a source? - Page 2

68TriShield · 02-17-2009, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbourjay

i would answer but call me slow, i don't really follow your question

it's not direct enough for my young brain to process.

Okay...you *sell* quite a few cigars,why I don't know or care.
What I wonder is,has giving up a source ever soured one of your sales,and is that why you're asking our opinion?

Disclaimer:barbourjay's sales are top notch.

02-17-2009, 06:15 PM

When it comes to Opus/HTF Fuentes: it doesn't take alot to find sources for yourself. I wouldn't give up a local B/M, etc... because inevitably the source WILL get ruined everytime! When I'm asked I give the same standard 3sources without hesitation: Holts, TS and Famous. At least I know they stick to the limit policies and have enough stock that they usually don't dry up so quickly. Giving out HTF Fuente sources is like telling your salary to your coworkers; it will only cause bad felings in the end. I have aquired quite a few sources from here and CS and I don't want them ruined. I bought some Opus from you as well at just about MSRP which was more than fair in my book. I don't think I've ever seen anyone give you a bad comment. The person who got pissed at you can go pound sand as I think your sales are well above the board. They are your sources to do with as you please and I say loose lips sink sources ( or something like that

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02-17-2009, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68TriShield

Okay...you *sell* quite a few cigars,why I don't know or care.
What I wonder is,has giving up a source ever soured one of your sales,and is that why you're asking our opinion?

Disclaimer:barbourjay's sales are top notch.

never has soured one of my sales. i try my best to fill WTB's and do box splits (like the tatuaje monster one i did which is half my feedback).

i was asking peoples opinion to see what the proper way to address this situation is.

68TriShield · 02-17-2009, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbourjay

never has soured one of my sales. i try my best to fill WTB's and do box splits (like the tatuaje monster one i did which is half my feedback).

i was asking peoples opinion to see what the proper way to address this situation in.

Bottom line is,you know who your friends are.Not to be callous but they are all that matters

pnoon · 02-17-2009, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbourjay

never has soured one of my sales. i try my best to fill WTB's and do box splits (like the tatuaje monster one i did which is half my feedback).

i was asking peoples opinion to see what the proper way to address this situation in.

You have received pretty much a consensus here. And I agree.

So to answer your question, use a phrase made well-known by D.A.R.E.

Just say No.

And if they don't like it, coin another phrase I use often (and is a favorite of LasciviousXXX's):

Tough Noogies !

Genetic Defect · 02-17-2009, 06:31 PM

I see, the one source you used to get reasonable prices on and then pad the price and sell them, so this guy took money out of your hand. and you rather not have your supplemental income cut even smaller.

02-17-2009, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68TriShield

Bottom line is,you know who your friends are.Not to be callous but they are all that matters

word, i don't think there is a person i've met on here who i wouldn't call trustworthy. those people tend not to stick around.

68TriShield · 02-17-2009, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito

I see, the one source you used to get reasonable prices on and then pad the price and sell them, so this guy took money out of your hand. and you rather not have your supplemental income cut even smaller.

I don't think so Perry,not at all.

02-17-2009, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito

I see, the one source you used to get reasonable prices on and then pad the price and sell them, so this guy took money out of your hand. and you rather not have your supplemental income cut even smaller.

that's a pretty big accusation. i don't pad pricing and i don't sell cigars as supplemental income. if i did there would be tons upon tons of for sale threads by me. ask some of the people who have herfed and met with me and seen my collection. assumptions are just awesome.

but whatever, i did bring up the subject but it was you who decide to run your mouth trying to stir up something (and i add this isn't the fist time i've seen it on this board).

Genetic Defect · 02-17-2009, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbourjay

that's a pretty big accusation. i don't pad pricing and i don't sell cigars as supplemental income. if i did there would be tons upon tons of for sale threads by me. ask some of the people who have herfed and met with me and seen my collection. assumptions are just awesome.

but whatever, i did bring up the subject but it was you who decide to run your mouth trying to stir up something (and i add this isn't the fist time i've seen it on this board).

It sounded harsher then I meant, I could see not wanting to give out a source due to losing money either with sales or because someone will pay the higher price. You did state that about the earlier source.

Genetic Defect · 02-17-2009, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68TriShield

I don't think so Perry,not at all.

I see I worded it craptasticly

pnoon · 02-17-2009, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbourjay

that's a pretty big accusation. i don't pad pricing and i don't sell cigars as supplemental income. if i did there would be tons upon tons of for sale threads by me. ask some of the people who have herfed and met with me and seen my collection. assumptions are just awesome.

but whatever, i did bring up the subject but it was you who decide to run your mouth trying to stir up something (and i add this isn't the fist time i've seen it on this board).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito

It sounded harsher then I meant, I could see not wanting to give out a source due to losing money either with sales or because someone will pay the higher price. You did state that about the earlier source.

I'm going to step in here and say, that at times, Perry can be . . . well, Perry.

Jeremy, I can certainly see how you read his post but I honestly believe it was not meant as a slam against you but support for you not wanting to divulge sources.

Group hug !

Mugen910 · 02-17-2009, 06:43 PM

give up on NCs and keep CC sources private..problem solved

02-17-2009, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito

It sounded harsher then I meant, I could see not wanting to give out a source due to losing money either with sales or because someone will pay the higher price. You did state that about the earlier source.

yup but it's not about losing the money as i said before. it's about not wanting to pay 20$ for a robusto because someone else who is selling for a profit is willing to go that high. there is a line to be drawn and i feel 1-2$ above msrp on somethings is reasonable. double to triple is not.

02-17-2009, 06:45 PM

by the way....can you set me up with a good NC source? Mine isn't as good as yours.

LOL

Genetic Defect · 02-17-2009, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon

I'm going to step in here and say, that at times, Perry can be . . . well, Perry.

Jeremy, I can certainly see how you read his post but I honestly believe it was not meant as a slam against you but support for you not wanting to divulge sources.

Group hug !

I pmd Jeremy with an apology. You are right Peter, and sometimes it sucks being a blockhead.

again Sorry Jeremy.

pnoon · 02-17-2009, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito

I pmd Jeremy with an apology. You are right Peter, and sometimes it sucks being a blockhead.

again Sorry Jeremy.

On the contrary, Perry. An apology wasn't needed but I am sure it was appreciated. I think, in this case, electronic communication betrayed the intent of the message.

02-17-2009, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon

On the contrary, Perry. An apology wasn't needed but I am sure it was appreciated. I think, in this case, electronic communication betrayed the intent of the message.

totally agree here. i see it all the time which is why i brought up the assumptions thing. hard to convey while typing a lot of the range of human emotion and thought.

02-17-2009, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyanide

by the way....can you set me up with a good NC source? Mine isn't as good as yours.

LOL

yes but i don't believe they ship to canada

02-17-2009, 06:51 PM

I know its a little late, but from the other side of the fence (the guy with no sources of any kind) I still agree with everyone here. If you know someone is trustworthy then sharing sources is fine but there is no need to risk shooting yourself in the foot with a complete stranger.

If you want to help out a stranger, then offer to pick up a few sticks and sell them to him at the price you paid. He gets the sticks for a good price and you keep your sources safe. Everyone wins.

02-17-2009, 06:15 PM	#22
Only Fuentes Guest Posts: n/a	Re: is it wrong to withold a source? When it comes to Opus/HTF Fuentes: it doesn't take alot to find sources for yourself. I wouldn't give up a local B/M, etc... because inevitably the source WILL get ruined everytime! When I'm asked I give the same standard 3sources without hesitation: Holts, TS and Famous. At least I know they stick to the limit policies and have enough stock that they usually don't dry up so quickly. Giving out HTF Fuente sources is like telling your salary to your coworkers; it will only cause bad felings in the end. I have aquired quite a few sources from here and CS and I don't want them ruined. I bought some Opus from you as well at just about MSRP which was more than fair in my book. I don't think I've ever seen anyone give you a bad comment. The person who got pissed at you can go pound sand as I think your sales are well above the board. They are your sources to do with as you please and I say loose lips sink sources ( or something like that )

02-17-2009, 06:31 PM	#26
Genetic Defect difetosso Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Perry Location: An elevator Posts: 5,202 Trading: (5)	Re: is it wrong to withold a source? I see, the one source you used to get reasonable prices on and then pad the price and sell them, so this guy took money out of your hand. and you rather not have your supplemental income cut even smaller. __________________ I'm an outcast riding into town alone I got wanderlust branded deeper than the bone

02-17-2009, 06:43 PM	#33
Mugen910 I <3 Huy Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Location Location: First Name Posts: 8,387 Trading: (106)	Re: is it wrong to withold a source? give up on NCs and keep CC sources private..problem solved __________________ I'm not antisocial, I just think people are stupid.

02-17-2009, 06:45 PM	#35
Cyanide Guest Posts: n/a	Re: is it wrong to withold a source? by the way....can you set me up with a good NC source? Mine isn't as good as yours. LOL

02-17-2009, 06:51 PM	#40
fuubar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: is it wrong to withold a source? I know its a little late, but from the other side of the fence (the guy with no sources of any kind) I still agree with everyone here. If you know someone is trustworthy then sharing sources is fine but there is no need to risk shooting yourself in the foot with a complete stranger. If you want to help out a stranger, then offer to pick up a few sticks and sell them to him at the price you paid. He gets the sticks for a good price and you keep your sources safe. Everyone wins.