"V" Cut vs. Flat Cut - Page 2

AdamJoshua · 10-08-2016, 09:52 AM

Hey don't piss him off, I was hoping to get a discount on one.

Cigar Fan 29 · 10-08-2016, 11:11 AM

I just Googled Shuriken Perfect Draw and found it. That isn't even close to what I mentioned. There is no "t" in PerfecDraw, and it's all one word. I took your advice and googled the Shuriken. Please take my advice and Google PerfecDraw. You'll see the huge difference.

If you're going to count my posts, just count the ones where I comment -- replying to your comments doesn't count! LOL!

Anyway, yes, I'll try to find the new members section you suggested. Thanks.

Porch Dweller · 10-08-2016, 11:24 AM

Sorry and thanks for the clarification, I found the site. Google kept trying to force the results to be for "perfect draw". So it's not a cutter, it's basically a drawpoker with a small drill bit at the point. An interesting concept.

Cigar Fan 29 · 10-08-2016, 11:45 AM

Hey Porch Dweller -- thanks for directing me to the new guys area. I started a thread, but I wanted to post some photos. But it asked me for a URL. My photos are on my computer. Is there a way for me to post photos from my computer files?

Thanks.

Porch Dweller · 10-08-2016, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigar Fan 29

Hey Porch Dweller -- thanks for directing me to the new guys area. I started a thread, but I wanted to post some photos. But it asked me for a URL. My photos are on my computer. Is there a way for me to post photos from my computer files?

Thanks.

If you look at the upper left of the web site you should see a link called "User CP". Click on that. When the next page opens up, look on the left side for "Pictures & Albums". That'll take you to the section of the site where you can upload pictures and then share them in posts.
I prefer to upload to Flickr and share the link from there.

Cigar Fan 29 · 10-08-2016, 12:33 PM

Thanks! I'll give it a try.

Don Fernando · 10-09-2016, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3

If you are referring to the Shuriken, I have used it, and I was not impressed.

That thing didn't work at all. wasted 30 bucks on it, could have bought 4 great cigars for that money

icehog3 · 10-09-2016, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

That thing didn't work at all. wasted 30 bucks on it, could have bought 4 great cigars for that money

I got 2 or 3 of them for free. They are sitting in a drawer, don't wanna curse anyone else with them.

Cigar Fan 29 · 10-09-2016, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3

I got 2 or 3 of them for free. They are sitting in a drawer, don't wanna curse anyone else with them.

The PerfecDraw is entirely different. Took two years in engineering and manufacturing development. Long story.

Anyway, I'd really like your feedback. take a look at the videos at www.PerfecDraw.com.

It just launched, but there's already been a few video reviews. Those links are also on the site.

Lemme know your thoughts.

Thanks.

Rod

________________________
Just so ya know... This is me. Just sayin'...
www.KoRWhitening.com
www.PerfecDraw.com

icehog3 · 10-09-2016, 06:06 PM

Based on the videos, seems like it could be superior to the draw tool I use now. It has some ridges for cutting, but doesn't seem as intricate as yours, Rod.

mahtofire14 · 10-09-2016, 08:49 PM

I use a V cut over a traditional cut on every standard cigar (non torpedo). I find it to be a much cleaner cut with minimal shredded tobacco ending up in your mouth. Doesn't affect flavor or draw for me. I have a large tabletop cutter with two regular cuts and two v cuts all inline with one blades. Just make sure you have a nice sharp blade, same as any other cutter.

Don Fernando · 10-10-2016, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigar Fan 29

The PerfecDraw is entirely different. Took two years in engineering and manufacturing development. Long story.

Anyway, I'd really like your feedback. take a look at the videos at www.PerfecDraw.com.

It just launched, but there's already been a few video reviews. Those links are also on the site.

Lemme know your thoughts.

Thanks.

Rod

my initial thought when I saw the video's on your site was "damn, what a missed opportunity in the design". You could have made it so much more versatile

MarkinAZ · 10-17-2016, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackDog

For those who use them, why do you prefer a "V" cut to a flat cut?

Pretty much has been the flat cut for me. Used a V cutter a couple of times at the local B&M, but have simply stayed with a flat cut. I have a punch cutter that I do use from time to time on the robustos for variety.

And, early on in the 90's, I'd use a number 8d carpenters nail for my "perfecdraw"

ky70 · 10-18-2016, 01:13 PM

Up until a month ago, I've straight cut 95% of the time. When I did vcut, it was with a xikar and it does a decent job of cutting most cigars but the recess is somewhat shallow which sometimes leads to a v cut not deep enough on some cigars. No biggie, but it would require me to cut 2 or 3 times on some cigars to get the depth I want.

I picked up a Colibri v cutter about a month ago and now have been going with a v cut almost exclusively because I love the deep v the cutter gives and I have had great success with getting the right draw with one cut and have not had any wrappers damaged, even if somewhat dry.

OnePyroTec · 10-22-2016, 05:45 PM

I started smoking cigars in the 80's. I was always a typical flat cut kind of guy. Everywhere you went, you would be given a regular single blade flat cutter. I did try a bullet punch for a while, but everyone who borrowed it would tap out the cutting and ruin the blade!

Eventually I purchased a Xikar dual blade in the 90's and Marc gave me a Palio at a SoCal herf. Fast forward to today, my son has be gifted my original Xikar, my Palio cutter sits in my pick-up as back up (when I leave behind my V-Cutter) or loaner, and I use & have used for the last year or so a Xikar V-Cutter. Dion G. has a table top V-Cutter on his counter and I use it every time I go to Fumare in Reno....it got me hooked on V-Cuts so I purchased the Xikar V-Cut from him since I could not carry a table top cutter everywhere. YES, I use it on all sizes including Torps/Figurados.

edit for the offshoot part of the thread: I do not use a tool other than a trash can for a plugged cigar.

tsolomon · 10-23-2016, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnePyroTec

edit for the offshoot part of the thread: I do not use a tool other than a trash can for a plugged cigar.

This is also my approach to plugged cigars. I have tried dry boxing for weeks/months and have used cigar drills and pokers with very little success.

Don Fernando · 10-24-2016, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3

If you are referring to the Shuriken, I have used it, and I was not impressed.

Admiral ....

YOU ****ING JINXED ME!!!!!

I thought I got rid of my Shuriken, hadn't seen it for over a year and thought I gave it away. Just opened the bottom drawer of my desk, and what do I see? That $30 piece of useless crap! I blame you for mentioning it

Yamasa · 12-13-2016, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigar Fan 29

The PerfecDraw is entirely different. Took two years in engineering and manufacturing development. Long story.

Anyway, I'd really like your feedback. take a look at the videos at www.PerfecDraw.com.

It just launched, but there's already been a few video reviews. Those links are also on the site.

Lemme know your thoughts.

Thanks.

Rod

________________________
Just so ya know... This is me. Just sayin'...
www.KoRWhitening.com
www.PerfecDraw.com

I use a similar device that is a shop tool.
It is an oxy/acetylene torch tip cleaner hand held mini drill.
The bits are not as long, and it does not draw any tobacco out because I have only used it during the smoke, not before. It simply pushes a hole through the tobacco.

longknocker · 12-13-2016, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigar Fan 29

The PerfecDraw is entirely different. Took two years in engineering and manufacturing development. Long story.

Anyway, I'd really like your feedback. take a look at the videos at www.PerfecDraw.com.

It just launched, but there's already been a few video reviews. Those links are also on the site.

Lemme know your thoughts.

Thanks.

Rod
_____________________
Just so ya know... This is me. Just sayin'...
www.KoRWhitening.com
www.PerfecDraw.com

Just Ordered One. Will Post My Thoughts When I Use It A Few Times. Thanks!

longknocker · 12-23-2016, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker

Just Ordered One. Will Post My Thoughts When I Use It A Few Times. Thanks!

Used It, Tonite!

Different Than Other Draw Tools. Very Sharp & Well Made. Actually Pulls A Small Amount Of Tobacco From The Cigar & Opens Up The Draw Nicely. A "Winner", IMO.

10-08-2016, 09:52 AM	#21
AdamJoshua Article 4 Free Inhabitant Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: The Other Adam Location: Satellite Beach Posts: 14,787 Trading: (40)	Re: "V" Cut vs. Flat Cut Hey don't piss him off, I was hoping to get a discount on one.

10-08-2016, 11:11 AM	#22
Cigar Fan 29 PerfecDraw guy Join Date: Oct 2016 First Name: Rod Location: Southern California Posts: 9 Trading: (0)	Re: "V" Cut vs. Flat Cut I just Googled Shuriken Perfect Draw and found it. That isn't even close to what I mentioned. There is no "t" in PerfecDraw, and it's all one word. I took your advice and googled the Shuriken. Please take my advice and Google PerfecDraw. You'll see the huge difference. If you're going to count my posts, just count the ones where I comment -- replying to your comments doesn't count! LOL! Anyway, yes, I'll try to find the new members section you suggested. Thanks.

10-08-2016, 11:24 AM	#23
Porch Dweller Life is for living Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: James Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 8,382 Trading: (24)	Re: "V" Cut vs. Flat Cut Sorry and thanks for the clarification, I found the site. Google kept trying to force the results to be for "perfect draw". So it's not a cutter, it's basically a drawpoker with a small drill bit at the point. An interesting concept. __________________ A 1911 in the hand is faster than 911 on the phone

10-08-2016, 11:45 AM	#24
Cigar Fan 29 PerfecDraw guy Join Date: Oct 2016 First Name: Rod Location: Southern California Posts: 9 Trading: (0)	Re: "V" Cut vs. Flat Cut Hey Porch Dweller -- thanks for directing me to the new guys area. I started a thread, but I wanted to post some photos. But it asked me for a URL. My photos are on my computer. Is there a way for me to post photos from my computer files? Thanks.

10-08-2016, 12:33 PM	#26
Cigar Fan 29 PerfecDraw guy Join Date: Oct 2016 First Name: Rod Location: Southern California Posts: 9 Trading: (0)	Re: "V" Cut vs. Flat Cut Thanks! I'll give it a try.

10-09-2016, 06:06 PM	#30
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,257 Trading: (60)	Re: "V" Cut vs. Flat Cut Based on the videos, seems like it could be superior to the draw tool I use now. It has some ridges for cutting, but doesn't seem as intricate as yours, Rod. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

10-09-2016, 08:49 PM	#31
mahtofire14 Chillin in the Aging Room Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: Pete Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 1,588 Trading: (16)	Re: "V" Cut vs. Flat Cut I use a V cut over a traditional cut on every standard cigar (non torpedo). I find it to be a much cleaner cut with minimal shredded tobacco ending up in your mouth. Doesn't affect flavor or draw for me. I have a large tabletop cutter with two regular cuts and two v cuts all inline with one blades. Just make sure you have a nice sharp blade, same as any other cutter. __________________ Saving basements in the Land of 10,000 Lakes.

10-18-2016, 01:13 PM	#34
ky70 Still Watching My Back Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: Ken Location: Chicago Posts: 123 Trading: (0)	Re: "V" Cut vs. Flat Cut Up until a month ago, I've straight cut 95% of the time. When I did vcut, it was with a xikar and it does a decent job of cutting most cigars but the recess is somewhat shallow which sometimes leads to a v cut not deep enough on some cigars. No biggie, but it would require me to cut 2 or 3 times on some cigars to get the depth I want. I picked up a Colibri v cutter about a month ago and now have been going with a v cut almost exclusively because I love the deep v the cutter gives and I have had great success with getting the right draw with one cut and have not had any wrappers damaged, even if somewhat dry.

10-22-2016, 05:45 PM	#35
OnePyroTec Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: Wayne Location: Nevada Posts: 332 Trading: (2)	Re: "V" Cut vs. Flat Cut I started smoking cigars in the 80's. I was always a typical flat cut kind of guy. Everywhere you went, you would be given a regular single blade flat cutter. I did try a bullet punch for a while, but everyone who borrowed it would tap out the cutting and ruin the blade! Eventually I purchased a Xikar dual blade in the 90's and Marc gave me a Palio at a SoCal herf. Fast forward to today, my son has be gifted my original Xikar, my Palio cutter sits in my pick-up as back up (when I leave behind my V-Cutter) or loaner, and I use & have used for the last year or so a Xikar V-Cutter. Dion G. has a table top V-Cutter on his counter and I use it every time I go to Fumare in Reno....it got me hooked on V-Cuts so I purchased the Xikar V-Cut from him since I could not carry a table top cutter everywhere. YES, I use it on all sizes including Torps/Figurados. edit for the offshoot part of the thread: I do not use a tool other than a trash can for a plugged cigar.