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On another topic brought up, I don't think we can discount a playoff as being just MORE MONEY thrown at the problem.
In my opinion, YES it is significantly more money on the pile, but the RESULT of the money is better in the end, or viewed by more people as fair. And E.J., I really hate that there can't be the bama-Stanford and LSU-OK State games on tap to show you how incorrect I think you are on this 1&2 deal. I AM BIASED, but I think LSU and bama could take any and all comers and walk away double digit winners. I guess we just lost our best chance to see if I am right, but YES, there are a lot of great teams out there, I just don't think people fully comprehend the juggernaut that these two teams really represent in full contact glory. There are great teams in football, but somehow they come down to the bowl games and their awesome attacks just don't hold up for 60 minutes. I don't want this being a SEC against the world thread, I started it specifically to get away from the chirping about that stuff, but there DOES exist an element of that in my argument, I guess. I have watched all the "good games" over the past decade, and I see the fans go nuts when Ohio State rips off a 80 yard touchdown pass, but in the 4th quarter it's always glum looks and disbelief. NOT A SEC discussion, except that the teams I argue about in 2011 are in the SEC west. Last edited by OLS; 12-05-2011 at 01:08 PM. |
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Right now we have a playoff system....or at least are told we do....and that is the regular season. If they want to go a 16 team playoff and bring in at large teams, great.... But if it is 4 teams, IMO...those 4 teams better have won their conference... I could not care less if they had to go through a team that many consider the best in the Country... If you want to be the best in the country, beat that team when given the opportunity, if you can't, someone else should get a try. |
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This is why I was asking you in the SEC thread to pick a dog in the hunt.
I know little or nothing about who I would pit against bama and LSU in separate big-time BCS games. I am too focused on the god-like wonder of the LSU Tigers to know who they would play if this were being done right. I need outside perspectives to TELL me what they think would be proper. Let's all play a game. BCS has set this up to be a tourney. Fill in these brackets: LSU versus Bama versus |
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LSU vs Okie Lite and then everything else. Two best conferences this year, two conference champions. It is not like OSU is the winner of the Big East or has 2 losses. They are not exactly backdooring their way into this game... |
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Suck It
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Neither would I, top 2 anyway, in fact I think it is an insult to LSU to throw bama in there as if they
deserved it. I think that they are a giant among teams, but it's like you said elsewhere, this was not a foregone conclusion when the pre-season polls came out or anything, everyone had their chances to take care of business. That's why I was thinking Houston deserved a shot like anyone else until the past weekend. I understand why the pollsters did what they did, but that's not saying it was fair. And I don't mean fair from the LSU perspective, hell no, bring em on, we can beat em twice. But it's the obverse...say they win, after doing nothing but doing their nails for 6 weeks. That would be a travesty. But a NC all the same. |
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You want to know irony?? You well know I think LSU is better than bama. But I KNOW LSU can be beaten.
We are not disciplined enough on offense and we don't have a good enough passer in J. Jefferson to win every time out. I don't think bama can be beaten. They are going to make some QB mistakes, and their kicking game is a joke in 2011. But on balance, they are still gonna get ya. We escaped with a win in Tuscaloosa, and we will likely do so again in New Orleans. But not because we are gonna score on bama through the run or the pass. We are going to punch em in the mouth SO HARD that they are gonna make some mistakes, and we are going to capitalize in points or field position. We are going to FORCE errors by their passers and runners and get a quick defensive score. We are going to kick them into their own end and our D is gonna try to keep em there. We are going to make field goals. But as good as I think we are, we are not going to do anything but escape with a win, because they are just TOO TOUGH. And if we can't do it easily, I don't think anyone else even has a chance. |
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I witnessed first hand the greatness of an Alabama team that was going to mop the floor with the University of Utah in a bowl game. They had weeks to prepare and I heard it for weeks and weeks about how Utah couldn't play with a team built like that Alabama team.
Hell, I heard it from fans, from professionals on television, from everyone that had sound coming out of their mouth....but that is why you play the games. Didn't quite turn out how everyone thought.... I watched that game, have watched it a few times.....there was one team that was far more physical on the field, one team that dominated play, one defense that looked faster, stronger, better.....thing is, it wasn't the one everyone said it was going to be. It wasn't done with smoke and mirrors, but with blood and sweat... Nothing can be said that is going to change my mind on two things, that in my mind, should keep Alabama out of the BCS Championship game. 1 - Alabama didn't win their conference 2 - Alabama already played LSU and lost I cannot express enough that YES, ALABAMA IS A GREAT TEAM! I will scream it from the rooftops....but they didn't win their conference and they already lost this game, on their home turf, a month ago. |
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Yet it happened. You can't justify giving one team two shots to beat the #1 team and 4 other one loss teams 0 chances.
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I'm nuts for the place
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![]() ![]() Yes, you guys wiped the grass with us. We weren't ready, lost our 3 year starting left tackle the night before the game for illegal agent contact, came out flat and unmotivated, and got waxed. And then forgot about it. Well, not really forgot about it, but you get the point. You know the funny thing about this whole discussion? Were it not for the BCS, Utah would have never sniffed that BCS bowl game. But again, different argument. ![]() |
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![]() If not for the BCS, there would be no BCS games ![]() Utah is in the "haves" now....they're in the PAC12, I still think the system is broken. |
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I'm not saying the system isn't broken, but it is, for the most part, doing what it was designed to do. the travesty to the whole damn thing, is it has made ALL the other bowls, including the non-championship BCS bowls, totally irrelevant, and typically boring. ![]() |
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Suck It
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Ah, it's the old OLS treatment.....You simply do not believe they deserve to BE THERE in the first place.
Again, just in a different thread, I agree with you there. But I guess we are not going to be able to pin you down on two best teams in major college football, huh? ![]() with bama, but I think this is a better team......still, point taken. |
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Rizzle, what is your response to the fact that Alabama had an easier road to their 1 loss record, that they played an easier schedule...?
It is unfortunate, because you are biased, but it would be interesting to see what your thoughts & all the SEC crowd's thoughts would be if the situation was reversed. If we were talking about USC and Oregon or Texas and Oklahoma in a rematch and Alabama or another SEC team with a loss to a 6-6 SEC team, but having played a tougher schedule. That SEC team having beat more ranked teams, won their conference Championship ect.. That mentioned loss being just days after the school lost 2 coaches in a horrific plane crash ect.... I wonder if your thoughts on the subject would be the same. See, that is where I think that my not having a dog in this hunt, but looking at this objectively(what I feel is objective?) and thinking I'm getting the shaft on seeing the "right game" for the BCS Championship. |
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