Creating my Smoking Lounge! - Page 2

Mark THS · 03-21-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by icantbejon

Gonna put in ventilation on the back wall. Still researching the right option. In my head, getting something as simple as a bathroom fan would work in a room this small. I should be able to just pipe that outside and be fine.

if you're in need of any ideas- see what me and my brother did: www.ryandeyer.com/cigarroom

The "Process" section has some nice tips on ducting/venting

irratebass · 03-21-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark THS

if you're in need of any ideas- see what me and my brother did: www.ryandeyer.com/cigarroom

The "Process" section has some nice tips on ducting/venting

Amazing room!!!!! I love the step by step, photos and pricing even great job man....Wish I had the means and know how.

icantbejon · 04-02-2012, 12:47 PM

Got the primer coat painted in the room. Now it's time for the exhaust fans. Any recommendations for quiet, powerful and reasonably priced fans is welcome!

smitty81 · 04-02-2012, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by icantbejon

Got the primer coat painted in the room. Now it's time for the exhaust fans. Any recommendations for quiet, powerful and reasonably priced fans is welcome!

you have a window in that room don't you?

I use a walmart box fan in the window and it works rather well. I can sit about 7' from the window and you can see the smoke float towards the window when its on.

Blak Smyth · 04-02-2012, 02:24 PM

I was looking into quiet bathroom fans for mine, just a thought.

kaisersozei · 04-02-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by icantbejon

Got the primer coat painted in the room. Now it's time for the exhaust fans. Any recommendations for quiet, powerful and reasonably priced fans is welcome!

I was thinking about this since you brought it up on Saturday--where do you want to vent the fan? The problem with a lot of kitchen/bath fans is that they have exhaust tubing which needs to be run somewhere. You have two exterior walls (well, technically 3) so I'm not sure a bath exhaust will do the trick. Basically you'll be cutting a hole directly in an exterior wall. Bath fans usually don't have very good damper systems, so you'll be open to the elements year round.

I'm kinda stumped, maybe a craftier BOTL can offer up better advice.

Blak Smyth · 04-02-2012, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kaisersozei

I was thinking about this since you brought it up on Saturday--where do you want to vent the fan? The problem with a lot of kitchen/bath fans is that they have exhaust tubing which needs to be run somewhere. You have two exterior walls (well, technically 3) so I'm not sure a bath exhaust will do the trick. Basically you'll be cutting a hole directly in an exterior wall. Bath fans usually don't have very good damper systems, so you'll be open to the elements year round.

I'm kinda stumped, maybe a craftier BOTL can offer up better advice.

What about a bathroom exhaust fan with dryer duct and damper?

smitty81 · 04-02-2012, 02:42 PM

If you don't want to go the box fan rout, you can just put an exhaust fan in the wall that has metal shutters that open and close when you turn the fan on and off. There is a cover that you can put on the outside of the house over the shutters in the winter time.

kaisersozei · 04-02-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth

What about a bathroom exhaust fan with dryer duct and damper?

The problem is that I don't think Ferg has any room to run the ducting since he's on exterior walls. Could be wrong.

Blak Smyth · 04-02-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kaisersozei

The problem is that I don't think Ferg has any room to run the ducting since he's on exterior walls. Could be wrong.

To bad the portable wall mount scrubbers are so pricey.

lilninjabuddy · 04-02-2012, 07:01 PM

I've been looking at these. What about an exterior-mounted fan?

trendo · 04-02-2012, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by icantbejon

Gonna put in ventilation on the back wall. Still researching the right option. In my head, getting something as simple as a bathroom fan would work in a room this small. I should be able to just pipe that outside and be fine.

In my oppinon, bathroom fans dont pull the scfm needed. I looked into various ventilation forms for my own room, and ended up making a home made system. I hung a boxed gable fan from the rafters in my attic space, and plumbed it to the room. It pulls something like 1500 cfm, and cost me a total of 100 bucks. And because it is hanging from the rafters, it is virtually silent.

icantbejon · 04-03-2012, 10:10 AM

Thanks for all the input everyone. I came to the same conclusion Troy...I was going to do a bathroom fan but I don't think it will pull enough. I want at least a 1000 cfm fan. I think I found a fan, or type of fan, that will work well.

These are wall mounted, from the inside, and have a cover. It's capacity is 1500 cfm and it seems like it will be relatively quiet. I found a few varieties of these and the only thing this is missing is a speed control. I might look for that. If any one is interested in more research on this fan, here it is: http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hv...hutter-mounted

icantbejon · 04-03-2012, 10:11 AM

Oh, and I currently have a window fan in as well for a short term fix. I only have the one window though, so I don't want to block it. Also, I am going to temp control this room so I don't want to leave a window open during middle of winter.

jluck · 04-03-2012, 12:23 PM

I would go with a much higher cfm fan remote mounted as far away from smoking space as possible and run ducting to the room. That would make it easy to have multiple extraction ports for a more consistent air exchange and not dragging all the smoke past one persons head/face going to one common fan. This is how I will do mine.

357 · 04-03-2012, 01:15 PM

Check out MarkTHS's brother's cigar room. http://www.ryandeyer.com/cigarroom He gives step by step pics and parts lists. He includes switch operated baffles for both the inbound and outbound air ducts AND for the internal HVAC ducts so smoke doesn't backdraft into other parts of the house. He also includes an in-duct heating coil for inbound fresh air that auto heats the air if it's under 70 degrees F.

He did all of it on a pretty reasonable budget.

SteelCityBoy · 04-03-2012, 01:21 PM

I love seeing stuff like this! Can't wait to see the finished project! Keep us updated!

Don Fernando · 04-03-2012, 01:25 PM

guess on my next trip to the US, I have to visit VA

lilninjabuddy · 04-03-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark THS

if you're in need of any ideas- see what me and my brother did: www.ryandeyer.com/cigarroom

The "Process" section has some nice tips on ducting/venting

Your room was the inspiration for my garage room! (Which is still a work in progress, and likely will be for some time!)

Amazing job!

icantbejon · 04-03-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 357

Check out MarkTHS's brother's cigar room. http://www.ryandeyer.com/cigarroom He gives step by step pics and parts lists. He includes switch operated baffles for both the inbound and outbound air ducts AND for the internal HVAC ducts so smoke doesn't backdraft into other parts of the house. He also includes an in-duct heating coil for inbound fresh air that auto heats the air if it's under 70 degrees F.

He did all of it on a pretty reasonable budget.

Yeah, this room is pretty damn sweet but I'm not operating on this kind of budget. A 1500 cfm fan should be more than enough exhaust my 11 x 14 room.

04-02-2012, 12:47 PM	#23
icantbejon Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jon Location: Chester, VA Posts: 1,219 Trading: (10)	Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge! Got the primer coat painted in the room. Now it's time for the exhaust fans. Any recommendations for quiet, powerful and reasonably priced fans is welcome! __________________ "Learn to pay attention. Life is hard.....it's even more challenging when you're stupid."

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smitty81 Have My Own Room Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,640 Trading: (10)	Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge! If you don't want to go the box fan rout, you can just put an exhaust fan in the wall that has metal shutters that open and close when you turn the fan on and off. There is a cover that you can put on the outside of the house over the shutters in the winter time.

04-02-2012, 07:01 PM	#31
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04-03-2012, 10:10 AM	#33
icantbejon Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jon Location: Chester, VA Posts: 1,219 Trading: (10)	Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge! Thanks for all the input everyone. I came to the same conclusion Troy...I was going to do a bathroom fan but I don't think it will pull enough. I want at least a 1000 cfm fan. I think I found a fan, or type of fan, that will work well. These are wall mounted, from the inside, and have a cover. It's capacity is 1500 cfm and it seems like it will be relatively quiet. I found a few varieties of these and the only thing this is missing is a speed control. I might look for that. If any one is interested in more research on this fan, here it is: http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hv...hutter-mounted __________________ "Learn to pay attention. Life is hard.....it's even more challenging when you're stupid."

04-03-2012, 10:11 AM	#34
icantbejon Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jon Location: Chester, VA Posts: 1,219 Trading: (10)	Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge! Oh, and I currently have a window fan in as well for a short term fix. I only have the one window though, so I don't want to block it. Also, I am going to temp control this room so I don't want to leave a window open during middle of winter. __________________ "Learn to pay attention. Life is hard.....it's even more challenging when you're stupid."

04-03-2012, 12:23 PM	#35
jluck Way out there Join Date: Jan 2012 First Name: Jared Location: Oregon Posts: 1,289 Trading: (12)	Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge! I would go with a much higher cfm fan remote mounted as far away from smoking space as possible and run ducting to the room. That would make it easy to have multiple extraction ports for a more consistent air exchange and not dragging all the smoke past one persons head/face going to one common fan. This is how I will do mine.

04-03-2012, 01:15 PM	#36
357 Will herf for food Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Home is where I park it Posts: 4,075 Trading: (9)	Re: Creating my Smoking Lounge! Check out MarkTHS's brother's cigar room. http://www.ryandeyer.com/cigarroom He gives step by step pics and parts lists. He includes switch operated baffles for both the inbound and outbound air ducts AND for the internal HVAC ducts so smoke doesn't backdraft into other parts of the house. He also includes an in-duct heating coil for inbound fresh air that auto heats the air if it's under 70 degrees F. He did all of it on a pretty reasonable budget. __________________ “Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar;” Mark Twain

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