Valkyrie (2008) - Page 2

King James · 12-27-2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Buena Fortuna

Tom Cruise hasn't made a good movie since...well...'nuf said...

What 'bout Top Gun and Days of Thunder????

Don Fernando · 12-27-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Buena Fortuna

Tom Cruise hasn't made a good movie since...well...'nuf said...

Tom Cruise is a weirdo, a freak, a mental patient, but I like most of his movies.

GhostRyder · 12-27-2008, 10:34 AM

I'm glad it has been given a thumbs up. I really want this movie to be good since the plot is incredibly interesting (another history buff here). But I cannot stand Tom Cruise. At least the director didn't insult the audience by attempting to give everyone an English accent. I hate it when they do that. I would prefer this whole thing to be in German, but since it isn't I'm glad they just let them speak whatever without trying to force some ridiculous accent.

M1903A1 · 12-27-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by King James

What 'bout Top Gun and Days of Thunder????

Tom Cruise wasn't the star of Top Gun...the F-14A Tomcat was!

DavenportESQ · 12-27-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by King James

What 'bout Top Gun and Days of Thunder????

Tropic Thunder is a third!

Buena Fortuna · 12-27-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by King James

What 'bout Top Gun and Days of Thunder????

My point exactly! LOL
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Buena Fortuna · 12-27-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by M1903A1

Tom Cruise wasn't the star of Top Gun...the F-14A Tomcat was!

Absolutely couldn't agree more!
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Rock Star · 12-27-2008, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Buena Fortuna

Tom Cruise hasn't made a good movie since...well...'nuf said...

i hear the movie was good but he made it suck.

12-27-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GoatLocker

His character just didn't pull off the conflicted, torn officer leading the conspiracy save his country from Hitler.

I think because he was not torn, nor conflicted. He was very much convinced his actions were just and for the better of Germany. Their was not need to be conflicted or torn.

TOB9595 · 12-27-2008, 04:08 PM

I have to believe that there was GREAT conflict and second guessing of himself.

He was going against ALL that he stood for, Honor, Oath...ALL his training to obey..

WOW!!!
I'm trying to think on it and in the beginning...he had to be torn. AFTER he convinced himself of the right of this he would go full bore
?????
Tom

hotreds · 12-27-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by M1903A1

Tom Cruise wasn't the star of Top Gun...the F-14A Tomcat was!

HOORAH!

hotreds · 12-28-2008, 05:07 PM

At 8 pm tonight there is a show on the History Channel about Valkyrie.

Fishbeadtwo · 12-31-2008, 01:24 AM

Saw this last night and really liked from the historical point of view. Agree about Tom C. being a dillhole!

ca21455 · 12-31-2008, 10:43 AM

Unfortunately I found the moving to be quite boring. There was very little said about why they wanted to overthrow Hitler which in large part a typical "Hollywood oversight" especially since Cruise would not approve of the fact his character's strong Catholic beliefs guided his decision.

The movie is fairly accurate, however in the typical Hollywood fashion they delay Hitlers announcement he is alive to enhance the plot.

I found Cruise to be dull and unbelievable in his role. I expected to find more conviction in what he was doing but it always ended in a "thud" for me.

In all this movie should have been made as a full throttle action film or a physiological thriller delving into the thoughts and minds of the characters. To me the movie missed on both parts and was very shallow and not entertaining.

Clampdown · 12-31-2008, 10:54 AM

It was an ok movie, not great, not horrible. What i loved the most were the british accents by the actors and the absence of any accent by Tom Cruise.

12-31-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ca21455

Unfortunately I found the moving to be quite boring. There was very little said about why they wanted to overthrow Hitler which in large part a typical "Hollywood oversight" especially since Cruise would not approve of the fact his character's strong Catholic beliefs guided his decision.

The movie is fairly accurate, however in the typical Hollywood fashion they delay Hitlers announcement he is alive to enhance the plot.

I found Cruise to be dull and unbelievable in his role. I expected to find more conviction in what he was doing but it always ended in a "thud" for me.

In all this movie should have been made as a full throttle action film or a physiological thriller delving into the thoughts and minds of the characters. To me the movie missed on both parts and was very shallow and not entertaining.

I agree with most of your comments.....the film should have made up it's mind between developing into a full-blown action sequence-filled epic, or a deep psycological thriller/drama and it offered shallow glimpses of both. Overall, I think it did a great job of holding your attention, however, but this is mostly due to the fact that the story itself is intense and quite compelling aside from any sort of Hollywood script/actors. Before going into the film, I had already made up my mind that I was pissed off that Tom Cruise didn't speak a bit of German, must less have any sort of accent. I was pleasantly surprised to find the opening scene with him in fact speaking German and it slowly evolving into English before the scene was over. Overall, I think it was definitely a solid film as I actually told my friends that I give it a solid 3.5 out of 5 stars. Definitely one worth going to see.....just don't have unrealistic expectations before screening it.

Jason

KidRock · 01-06-2009, 04:34 PM

I liked the movie alot..major history buff. When does Deivance with Daniel Craigh come out?

elderboy02 · 01-06-2009, 06:21 PM

Thanks for the review!

I want to see this movie.

smitdavi · 01-06-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Buena Fortuna

Tom Cruise hasn't made a good movie since...well...'nuf said...

Hey now....TC is one of my favorite actors. Don't necessarily like him as a person, but I LOVE his movies:

A Few Good Men
Top Gun
Days of Thunder
Mission:Impossible
Jerry Maguire
The Last Samurai
Cocktail
etc...

And yes Valkyrie was a great movie

ucla695 · 01-07-2009, 07:57 AM

Thanks for the reviews. I liked the plot when I first saw the trailers, but have been hesitant to support Cruise. I guess I'll have to add it to the list of movies to see.

12-27-2008, 10:34 AM	#23
GhostRyder Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Sam Location: SW Virginia Posts: 185 Trading: (2)	Re: Valkyrie (2008) I'm glad it has been given a thumbs up. I really want this movie to be good since the plot is incredibly interesting (another history buff here). But I cannot stand Tom Cruise. At least the director didn't insult the audience by attempting to give everyone an English accent. I hate it when they do that. I would prefer this whole thing to be in German, but since it isn't I'm glad they just let them speak whatever without trying to force some ridiculous accent.

12-27-2008, 04:08 PM	#30
TOB9595 Managing the UnManageable Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Central NJ Posts: 452 Trading: (12)	Re: Valkyrie (2008) I have to believe that there was GREAT conflict and second guessing of himself. He was going against ALL that he stood for, Honor, Oath...ALL his training to obey.. WOW!!! I'm trying to think on it and in the beginning...he had to be torn. AFTER he convinced himself of the right of this he would go full bore ????? Tom __________________ I keep CHRIST in CHRISTmas Our palates are as individual as our fingerprints

12-28-2008, 05:07 PM	#32
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,662 Trading: (63)	Re: Valkyrie (2008) At 8 pm tonight there is a show on the History Channel about Valkyrie. __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

12-31-2008, 01:24 AM	#33
Fishbeadtwo Another nut j0b Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Charlie Location: Washington, the state Posts: 1,175 Trading: (9)	Re: Valkyrie (2008) Saw this last night and really liked from the historical point of view. Agree about Tom C. being a dillhole! __________________ This white coat is a little tight...?

12-31-2008, 10:43 AM	#34
ca21455 Working on Reality Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: John Location: Backyard Posts: 393 Trading: (7)	Re: Valkyrie (2008) Unfortunately I found the moving to be quite boring. There was very little said about why they wanted to overthrow Hitler which in large part a typical "Hollywood oversight" especially since Cruise would not approve of the fact his character's strong Catholic beliefs guided his decision. The movie is fairly accurate, however in the typical Hollywood fashion they delay Hitlers announcement he is alive to enhance the plot. I found Cruise to be dull and unbelievable in his role. I expected to find more conviction in what he was doing but it always ended in a "thud" for me. In all this movie should have been made as a full throttle action film or a physiological thriller delving into the thoughts and minds of the characters. To me the movie missed on both parts and was very shallow and not entertaining.

12-31-2008, 10:54 AM	#35
Clampdown I Cut Like a Buffalo Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brian Location: Noneya Posts: 868 Trading: (12)	Re: Valkyrie (2008) It was an ok movie, not great, not horrible. What i loved the most were the british accents by the actors and the absence of any accent by Tom Cruise.

01-06-2009, 04:34 PM	#37
KidRock Moped Herf Crew Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jon Location: Michigan Posts: 947 Trading: (17)	Re: Valkyrie (2008) I liked the movie alot..major history buff. When does Deivance with Daniel Craigh come out? __________________ Moped Herf Crew 11

01-06-2009, 06:21 PM	#38
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,508 Trading: (133)	Re: Valkyrie (2008) Thanks for the review! I want to see this movie.

01-07-2009, 07:57 AM	#40
ucla695 Neither here, nor there Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Pool Posts: 3,696 Trading: (5)	Re: Valkyrie (2008) Thanks for the reviews. I liked the plot when I first saw the trailers, but have been hesitant to support Cruise. I guess I'll have to add it to the list of movies to see.