Strasburg - Page 2

blugill · 09-09-2012, 06:26 PM

It's horrible!
He's on my fantasy team and I'm hanging on to fifth place by the skin of my teeth!!

kelmac07 · 09-09-2012, 11:01 PM

Nothing is going to guarantee his health...or that the Nats will this good next year. Although I understand they are looking out for his future...why not go for the glory now??

bobarian · 09-10-2012, 12:20 AM

Its a lose/lose situation really. They have several hundred million dollars invested and its about time that GM's and owners start to realize that their investments are long term. Much like the concussion situation in the NFL, the players dont always do whats best in the long run. I do admire the team for sticking to their guns, but its tough on the fans.

gorob23 · 09-10-2012, 11:43 AM

PLANNING.... I think thats what we are all really saying .......

Rob

Hey just a thought, think they know what a "Snow Globe" is

Rob

dave · 09-10-2012, 12:06 PM

Heck...the management and doctors don't really know anything for sure. He's their best pitcher. He should have been starting every third game. If he went over 250 innings, dial it back to every fourth.

I, for one, wholeheartedly applaud the Nats organization. The science and 'evidence' may not be 100% conclusive, but I find it hard to argue that this isn't good for his long-term health (and the team's.)

Bigwaved · 09-12-2012, 09:49 PM

it is the right move. The medical data to support it has been explained. I am satisfied with the pitching staff even without him. They play really solid defense and their offense has started to boom with the return of the players who have been injured. Like most everything in the press nowadays, anything to stir up the **** is what is makes the "news". Ask the Cubs fans how Wood turned out...

MedicCook · 09-12-2012, 10:16 PM

Look what the Yankees did with Joba and the innings limits and messing around with him because he was a young arm that they wanted to preserve for the long haul. He still blew his elbow out and had to have Tommy John surgery. If you have a team that can win the World Series you do everything in your power to win now. Plus what is this going to do to him if the Nats win the World Series with him sitting on the bench. What kind of issues will now come up in the clubhouse between him and his teammates. The Nats knew before Spring Training what his innings limit would be and they should have planned accordingly like others have said.

icehog3 · 09-13-2012, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook

If you have a team that can win the World Series you do everything in your power to win now.

I agree....lots of teams don't get a second chance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook

The Nats knew before Spring Training what his innings limit would be and they should have planned accordingly like others have said.

Exactly.

gorob23 · 09-13-2012, 10:18 AM

LOOK the bottom line is I hurt my throwing shoulder playing volleyball and I haven't been able to throw B.P. in 6 years...

Rob

09-13-2012, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by gorob23

LOOK the bottom line is I hurt my throwing shoulder playing volleyball and I haven't been able to throw B.P. in 6 years...

Rob

Which club? Why didn't they try to preserve you for long term BP?

jonumberone · 10-06-2012, 07:29 AM

So, does Strasburg wind up on the postseason roster?
I know the GM says no, but at what point do they start to reconsider?
If they move into the NLCS? Or the World Series?
Do you think they will play in a World Series, with arguably, their top pitcher on the bench?
How big will the uproar be if they get knocked out of an elimination game,with Edwin Jackson on the hill, and Strasburg on the bench?
Should be pretty fascinating to watch this unfold.

NeuRon · 10-06-2012, 08:04 AM

there has been alot of great points in this thread about long term preservation.. but its the Nats. c'mon now.. This might be their best chance to get something going.. i say they get him in the lineup and get him one start and see what happens.. He is rested, albeit not overly rested.. He could probably have some quality showings.

i DO give them credit for sticking to their guns, but seriously, they are killing their fans right now, and if this thing backfires, they will never hear the end of it

jonumberone · 10-10-2012, 01:56 PM

And so it begins!

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/w...tseason-100912

If the Cards hold on, and win todays game, it's going to get a lot deeper for Mike Rizzo

icehog3 · 10-10-2012, 06:43 PM

31 years since this franchise was in the postseason (when they were the Montreal Expos). I am no less confused by the Nats lack of planning today than I was when I started this thread.

alloy · 10-12-2012, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone

And so it begins!

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/w...tseason-100912

If the Cards hold on, and win todays game, it's going to get a lot deeper for Mike Rizzo

Thank you Mr. Detweiler/ JZimm/ Clippard/ Storen! Oh yeah, props to Mr. Jason "Bang Zoom Game Saving, Season Saving" Werth!

tsolomon · 10-12-2012, 09:25 AM

All I can say is

. Go Nats, go Gio!

icehog3 · 10-12-2012, 11:24 AM

This debate will go on unless the Nats win it all.

gorob23 · 10-12-2012, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

Which club? Why didn't they try to preserve you for long term BP?

Moved to volleyball , much more pleasant if you lose

Rob

Bigwaved · 10-12-2012, 11:30 PM

This thread has been about as stupid as it gets, imo. I cannot wait for all of the "experts" to "educate" everyone on how shutting the kid down "cost" them. Where are the ****ing Rolaids? I am sure everyone who disagrees with what they did is a "medical expert" that lends something more than a Holiday Inn Express point of view.

The closer gives up four runs in the 9th to hand the Cards the game. Yup, blame the series on no Strasburg. Bravo...BTW, what are the lottery numbers while you are at it?

10-12-2012, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigwaved

This thread has been about as stupid as it gets, imo. I cannot wait for all of the "experts" to "educate" everyone on how shutting the kid down "cost" them. Where are the ****ing Rolaids? I am sure everyone who disagrees with what they did is a "medical expert" that lends something more than a Holiday Inn Express point of view.

The closer gives up four runs in the 9th to hand the Cards the game. Yup, blame the series on no Strasburg. Bravo...BTW, what are the lottery numbers while you are at it?

Nats fan?

09-09-2012, 06:26 PM	#21
blugill Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Andy Location: Enid, Oklahoma Posts: 867 Trading: (10)	Re: Strasburg It's horrible! He's on my fantasy team and I'm hanging on to fifth place by the skin of my teeth!! __________________ My Blog

09-09-2012, 11:01 PM	#22
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: Strasburg Nothing is going to guarantee his health...or that the Nats will this good next year. Although I understand they are looking out for his future...why not go for the glory now?? __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

09-10-2012, 12:20 AM	#23
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Strasburg Its a lose/lose situation really. They have several hundred million dollars invested and its about time that GM's and owners start to realize that their investments are long term. Much like the concussion situation in the NFL, the players dont always do whats best in the long run. I do admire the team for sticking to their guns, but its tough on the fans.

09-10-2012, 11:43 AM	#24
gorob23 Brother of the Leaf Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Rob Location: On The Deck Posts: 969 Trading: (0)	Re: Strasburg PLANNING.... I think thats what we are all really saying ....... Rob Hey just a thought, think they know what a "Snow Globe" is Rob __________________ I LOVE The BLACKHAWKS! BAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! "Snow Globe" I miss light switch

09-10-2012, 12:06 PM	#25
dave Have My Own Room Join Date: May 2011 First Name: Dave Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,180 Trading: (15)	Re: Strasburg Heck...the management and doctors don't really know anything for sure. He's their best pitcher. He should have been starting every third game. If he went over 250 innings, dial it back to every fourth. I, for one, wholeheartedly applaud the Nats organization. The science and 'evidence' may not be 100% conclusive, but I find it hard to argue that this isn't good for his long-term health (and the team's.)

09-12-2012, 09:49 PM	#26
Bigwaved 99 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lilliput Posts: 812 Trading: (3)	Re: Strasburg it is the right move. The medical data to support it has been explained. I am satisfied with the pitching staff even without him. They play really solid defense and their offense has started to boom with the return of the players who have been injured. Like most everything in the press nowadays, anything to stir up the **** is what is makes the "news". Ask the Cubs fans how Wood turned out...

09-12-2012, 10:16 PM	#27
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: Strasburg Look what the Yankees did with Joba and the innings limits and messing around with him because he was a young arm that they wanted to preserve for the long haul. He still blew his elbow out and had to have Tommy John surgery. If you have a team that can win the World Series you do everything in your power to win now. Plus what is this going to do to him if the Nats win the World Series with him sitting on the bench. What kind of issues will now come up in the clubhouse between him and his teammates. The Nats knew before Spring Training what his innings limit would be and they should have planned accordingly like others have said. __________________ 27 World Series Championship's "If your wife doesn't like the aroma of your cigar, change your wife.", Zino Davidoff

09-13-2012, 10:18 AM	#29
gorob23 Brother of the Leaf Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Rob Location: On The Deck Posts: 969 Trading: (0)	Re: Strasburg LOOK the bottom line is I hurt my throwing shoulder playing volleyball and I haven't been able to throw B.P. in 6 years... Rob __________________ I LOVE The BLACKHAWKS! BAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! "Snow Globe" I miss light switch

10-06-2012, 07:29 AM	#31
jonumberone Raw Dog Join Date: Jun 2010 First Name: Dom Location: Exit 8A Posts: 6,484 Trading: (62)	Re: Strasburg So, does Strasburg wind up on the postseason roster? I know the GM says no, but at what point do they start to reconsider? If they move into the NLCS? Or the World Series? Do you think they will play in a World Series, with arguably, their top pitcher on the bench? How big will the uproar be if they get knocked out of an elimination game,with Edwin Jackson on the hill, and Strasburg on the bench? Should be pretty fascinating to watch this unfold. __________________ Sex junkie looking for a dealer

10-06-2012, 08:04 AM	#32
NeuRon Formerly BigRonS Join Date: Sep 2009 First Name: Ron Location: Forked River, NJ Posts: 1,540 Trading: (22)	Re: Strasburg there has been alot of great points in this thread about long term preservation.. but its the Nats. c'mon now.. This might be their best chance to get something going.. i say they get him in the lineup and get him one start and see what happens.. He is rested, albeit not overly rested.. He could probably have some quality showings. i DO give them credit for sticking to their guns, but seriously, they are killing their fans right now, and if this thing backfires, they will never hear the end of it

10-10-2012, 01:56 PM	#33
jonumberone Raw Dog Join Date: Jun 2010 First Name: Dom Location: Exit 8A Posts: 6,484 Trading: (62)	Re: Strasburg And so it begins! http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/w...tseason-100912 If the Cards hold on, and win todays game, it's going to get a lot deeper for Mike Rizzo __________________ Sex junkie looking for a dealer

10-10-2012, 06:43 PM	#34
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,305 Trading: (60)	Re: Strasburg 31 years since this franchise was in the postseason (when they were the Montreal Expos). I am no less confused by the Nats lack of planning today than I was when I started this thread. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

10-12-2012, 09:25 AM	#36
tsolomon Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: The Villages, FL Posts: 1,246 Trading: (31)	Re: Strasburg All I can say is . Go Nats, go Gio!

10-12-2012, 11:24 AM	#37
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,305 Trading: (60)	Re: Strasburg This debate will go on unless the Nats win it all. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

10-12-2012, 11:30 PM	#39
Bigwaved 99 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lilliput Posts: 812 Trading: (3)	Re: Strasburg This thread has been about as stupid as it gets, imo. I cannot wait for all of the "experts" to "educate" everyone on how shutting the kid down "cost" them. Where are the ****ing Rolaids? I am sure everyone who disagrees with what they did is a "medical expert" that lends something more than a Holiday Inn Express point of view. The closer gives up four runs in the 9th to hand the Cards the game. Yup, blame the series on no Strasburg. Bravo...BTW, what are the lottery numbers while you are at it?