Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum  

Go Back   Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum > Cigar Forums > Cigar Discussion > All Cigar Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-14-2016, 01:47 PM   #21
mncigarguy
Just in from the Storm
 
mncigarguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 38
Trading: (0)
mncigarguy is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

That sungrown Rocky has been on sale on various sites for the last two months, not any more - ha!
Holts had them for like 75 bucks a box!
__________________
Nothing with Blue Flecks is going near my cigars!
mncigarguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2016, 03:10 PM   #22
T.G
Grrrrrr
 
T.G's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
First Name: The Other Adam
Posts: 15,557
Trading: (37)
Navy (Served With Honor)
T.G has disabled reputation
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

Quote:
Originally Posted by pnoon View Post
fixed
Can't argue with a Stinky Dick Hacker.
T.G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2016, 03:28 PM   #23
jjirons69
Haberdasher
 
jjirons69's Avatar
4
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Jamie
Location: Chucktown, SC
Posts: 4,120
Trading: (94)
LGC
jjirons69 is a splendid one to beholdjjirons69 is a splendid one to beholdjjirons69 is a splendid one to beholdjjirons69 is a splendid one to beholdjjirons69 is a splendid one to beholdjjirons69 is a splendid one to beholdjjirons69 is a splendid one to behold
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

It's a pretty magazine with a lot of expensive crap. Even the cheap stuff is expensive.

I often wonder how the judging comes about - I mean I know how they score them, but who and how. Do they have 100 bandless cigars, say robusto sizes, and they blind taste them all? We all know that band warps the mind. Does one dude blind taste all 100 or is it a crowd? Do the same folks do it month in, month out? If you gave 4 of us 25 to test separately, especially blind, we'd get all kinds of values. The reveal would be like, "Oh, chit, we can't publish this!" Besides, RP would flip over backwards if his Sungrown robusto scored 70 points. He would yank his advertising! I don't think a sleek, beautiful, great-drawing, great-tasting Felipe Dominicana or Free Cuba (might be one on occasion) smoked blind with a score of 93 would ever make the listing on the reveal. Horsefeathers!
__________________
Somebody has to go back and get a chitload of dimes
jjirons69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2016, 04:23 PM   #24
icehog3
Admiral Douchebag
 
icehog3's Avatar
15
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Tom
Location: Clermont, Kentucky
Posts: 71,253
Trading: (60)
HUpmann
icehog3 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

Quote:
Originally Posted by jjirons69 View Post
It's a pretty magazine with a lot of expensive crap. Even the cheap stuff is expensive.

I often wonder how the judging comes about - I mean I know how they score them, but who and how. Do they have 100 bandless cigars, say robusto sizes, and they blind taste them all? We all know that band warps the mind. Does one dude blind taste all 100 or is it a crowd? Do the same folks do it month in, month out? If you gave 4 of us 25 to test separately, especially blind, we'd get all kinds of values. The reveal would be like, "Oh, chit, we can't publish this!" Besides, RP would flip over backwards if his Sungrown robusto scored 70 points. He would yank his advertising! I don't think a sleek, beautiful, great-drawing, great-tasting Felipe Dominicana or Free Cuba (might be one on occasion) smoked blind with a score of 93 would ever make the listing on the reveal. Horsefeathers!
It's a secret, but I can tell you.....


It's magic.
__________________


Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!
icehog3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2016, 04:43 PM   #25
bruceolee
King of Rants
 
bruceolee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
First Name: Jason
Location: South Florida
Posts: 1,227
Trading: (1)
Bolivar
bruceolee is a jewel in the roughbruceolee is a jewel in the roughbruceolee is a jewel in the roughbruceolee is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 View Post
It's a secret, but I can tell you.....


It's magic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u40mJ_ls5VE

I imagine it's something like this
__________________
“When I have found intense pain relieved, a weary brain soothed, and calm, refreshing sleep obtained by a cigar, I have felt grateful to God, and have blessed His name.” Spurgeon
bruceolee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2016, 04:55 PM   #26
icehog3
Admiral Douchebag
 
icehog3's Avatar
15
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Tom
Location: Clermont, Kentucky
Posts: 71,253
Trading: (60)
HUpmann
icehog3 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceolee View Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u40mJ_ls5VE

I imagine it's something like this
Much like how they gather the cigars for reviewing....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nKkGqHCfCI
__________________


Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!
icehog3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2016, 12:54 PM   #27
BigAsh
Don't knock the Ash...
 
BigAsh's Avatar
7
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Keith
Location: Yardley, PA
Posts: 5,046
Trading: (46)
Partagas
BigAsh is a splendid one to beholdBigAsh is a splendid one to beholdBigAsh is a splendid one to beholdBigAsh is a splendid one to beholdBigAsh is a splendid one to beholdBigAsh is a splendid one to beholdBigAsh is a splendid one to behold
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

And the #1 cigar of 2016...


Wait for it...


#1 • 2016 • la flor dominicana andalusian bull
__________________
Keith
BigAsh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2016, 01:10 PM   #28
stearns
Dogbert Consultant
 
stearns's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Ben
Location: Park Hill
Posts: 5,382
Trading: (50)
RA
stearns is a name known to allstearns is a name known to allstearns is a name known to allstearns is a name known to allstearns is a name known to allstearns is a name known to all
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

Quote:
Originally Posted by jjirons69 View Post
It's a pretty magazine with a lot of expensive crap. Even the cheap stuff is expensive.

I often wonder how the judging comes about - I mean I know how they score them, but who and how. Do they have 100 bandless cigars, say robusto sizes, and they blind taste them all? We all know that band warps the mind. Does one dude blind taste all 100 or is it a crowd? Do the same folks do it month in, month out? If you gave 4 of us 25 to test separately, especially blind, we'd get all kinds of values. The reveal would be like, "Oh, chit, we can't publish this!" Besides, RP would flip over backwards if his Sungrown robusto scored 70 points. He would yank his advertising! I don't think a sleek, beautiful, great-drawing, great-tasting Felipe Dominicana or Free Cuba (might be one on occasion) smoked blind with a score of 93 would ever make the listing on the reveal. Horsefeathers!
I've heard people "in the industry" but not CA employees try to explain the process, I don't remember the specifics but it's supposedly blind and "impartial." doesn't change the fact that those who advertise get higher ratings, and you start seeing ads an issue or two before the end of the year for those that end up the highest (other than the obligatory random cc so people can say "oooo I want to try that one day"). In my opinion that's the only objective part of the process, 8 times out of 10 if a top rated cigar isn't Cuban it is specifically advertised for in their magazine.

Truth is it sells the cigars to those that don't know, when the list comes out people would come into our shop and ask for everything from the top 10 and if we didn't have them they would get frustrated as if we are choosing not to stock what is unanimously the best cigar in the world because that's what the top people are saying. I don't know how much they pay CA to be in the top, maybe it's an unwritten understanding, but a higher rating in their listing = more stores buying the cigars because more people who casually ready CA who want to be an "aficionado" always want to smoke what the "aficionados" smoke. CA knows this and will not give away that power to something as silly as chance, or a group of "experts" who could possibly pick one that doesn't advertise with them. Maybe they only pick from a pool of advertisers, maybe they go off how many they get sent for free, I don't think we'll ever know.

**note I haven't picked up an issue in probably 4 years so I'm just going off my prior experience working in a cigar shop, but I don't think it's changed much
__________________
"Ignoring all the racket of conventional reality" - Keller Williams
stearns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2016, 02:06 PM   #29
Alpedhuez55
Fat Bastard
 
Alpedhuez55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Michael
Location: Taylors, SC
Posts: 115
Trading: (8)
SP
Alpedhuez55 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

I was so sure Phillies Strawberry Blunts were goint to take the #1 spot this year.

Though I will say the RP is a really good cigar and I have not trouble with that at #2. That Sun Grown is a really good line.
Alpedhuez55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2016, 03:35 PM   #30
jjirons69
Haberdasher
 
jjirons69's Avatar
4
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Jamie
Location: Chucktown, SC
Posts: 4,120
Trading: (94)
LGC
jjirons69 is a splendid one to beholdjjirons69 is a splendid one to beholdjjirons69 is a splendid one to beholdjjirons69 is a splendid one to beholdjjirons69 is a splendid one to beholdjjirons69 is a splendid one to beholdjjirons69 is a splendid one to behold
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

Thanks, Ben. Makes perfect sense. I like what you said about blind picking from those that participate in our magazine. You pay, you get thrown in the mix - you might win. No pay, no play. So it's the Top 10 of those that pay with the obligatory CC for good measure. That cuts the field way down.

You know I drink Budweiser because it IS the king of beers.
__________________
Somebody has to go back and get a chitload of dimes
jjirons69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2016, 01:13 AM   #31
Arranbrown
Just in from the Storm
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: londan
Posts: 1
Trading: (0)
Arranbrown is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

hello
i'm new here.i also like 4 • 2016 • E.P. CARILLO SELECCIÓN OSCURO PIRAMIDES ROYAL (Mexican wrapper, Ecuadoran binder and Nicaraguan filler)
• 2016 • PARTAGÁS SERIE E NO. 2 (samples with a box date of August 2016 mark the most impressive Cuban of the year)
regards
aaran brown
Arranbrown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2016, 06:36 AM   #32
Footbag
I Need My Space
 
Footbag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Adam
Location: NEPA
Posts: 1,216
Trading: (7)
Partagas
Footbag will become famous soon enoughFootbag will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

Devil's advocate here... There would be a number of brands out there that I never would've heard of unless they showed up on their list. Illusione being the first one to pop into my mind. There are also many sticks where I disagree with the CA ratings, but in general, it's no different then any other hobbyist magazine out there. They don't say the bad things about there advertisers. Only the good.

The odd thing about this hobby is it's all about which flavor you like. Hopefully, they're honest and post what they actually like, but there is no guarantee that anyone else will like it.

My overall thoughts are that it's a net positive.
Footbag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2016, 07:32 AM   #33
stearns
Dogbert Consultant
 
stearns's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Ben
Location: Park Hill
Posts: 5,382
Trading: (50)
RA
stearns is a name known to allstearns is a name known to allstearns is a name known to allstearns is a name known to allstearns is a name known to allstearns is a name known to all
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

I agree with it being net positive, I think any time we can get more people into the cigar world it's a good thing.

The tricky part is really deciding between the $5k and the $7k prosciutto slicer, but I ready an article in CA one time explaining why the $7k is really worth the extra scratch

(true story)
__________________
"Ignoring all the racket of conventional reality" - Keller Williams
stearns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2016, 08:23 AM   #34
T.G
Grrrrrr
 
T.G's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
First Name: The Other Adam
Posts: 15,557
Trading: (37)
Navy (Served With Honor)
T.G has disabled reputation
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

Quote:
Originally Posted by stearns View Post
I agree with it being net positive, I think any time we can get more people into the cigar world it's a good thing.

The tricky part is really deciding between the $5k and the $7k prosciutto slicer, but I ready an article in CA one time explaining why the $7k is really worth the extra scratch

(true story)
If you were to use the 3 match technique for lighting your cigars then you would understand why the $7k slicer is better, you philistine dolt.
T.G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2016, 09:36 AM   #35
Footbag
I Need My Space
 
Footbag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Adam
Location: NEPA
Posts: 1,216
Trading: (7)
Partagas
Footbag will become famous soon enoughFootbag will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

Quote:
Originally Posted by T.G View Post
If you were to use the 3 match technique for lighting your cigars then you would understand why the $7k slicer is better, you philistine dolt.
He's obviously never eaten prosciutto sliced too thick!
Footbag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2016, 09:38 AM   #36
markem
Bunion
 
markem's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Mark
Location: Second Star on the Right
Posts: 22,621
Trading: (47)
HUpmann
markem has disabled reputation
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

I liken the CA list to professional wresting. It gets people talking and that isn't a bad thing. Brings together people who might not otherwise meet.

There is also the part that most know that it is for entertainment purposes only and not designed to be taken seriously. A source of entertainment, so to speak. However, some do take it seriously and we can only hope that they don't hurt themselves too badly.
__________________
I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member.
~ Groucho Marx
markem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2016, 10:20 AM   #37
spark
Just in from the Storm
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 9
Trading: (0)
spark is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

Quote:
Originally Posted by T.G View Post
If you were to use the 3 match technique for lighting your cigars then you would understand why the $7k slicer is better, you philistine dolt.
This man understands the meaning of life
spark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 11:08 AM   #38
holtad
amateur
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
First Name: Adam
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1
Trading: (0)
Partagas
holtad is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

I have to admit, I'm a noob and did get suckered by the CA top 25. So far I'm just into the AF Sun Grown but haven't smoked it yet.

All that aside, am curious about people's thoughts on #1 on the list at least. is the Bull worth the ride?
holtad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 05:32 PM   #39
Nazgul
El Dorado 15 Fanatic
 
Nazgul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Canada
Posts: 39
Trading: (0)
Bolivar
Nazgul is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

Few good sticks in there, the Oliva V Melanio and Partagas Serie E no.2 are tasty. I don't put much merit in the rating systems anywhere, everyone's buds are unique
Nazgul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 06:02 PM   #40
AdamJoshua
Article 4 Free Inhabitant
 
AdamJoshua's Avatar
11
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
First Name: The Other Adam
Location: Satellite Beach
Posts: 14,787
Trading: (40)
Bolivar Army (Served With Honor)
AdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud of
Default Re: Cigar Aficionado 2016 Top 10

I just read it for the articles.
AdamJoshua is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All content is copyrighted jointly by Cigar Asylum and the content provider.