Madeira - No. 1 Drink for Cigars - Page 2

mosesbotbol · 11-19-2008, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by romwarrior

Alright I am intrigued. My local Bevmo has the Broadbent 10 yr and Blandy's 10 yr. I think I will have to check it out. Thanks for the info!

Give us an update when you try it out!

mosesbotbol · 11-19-2008, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jquirit

So, I'm having particularly bad luck finding Madeiras in my area. They drink a lot of wine, but the more 'niche' ones aren't carried much out here. One thought they carried Madeiras but turned out to be a port.

So, do any of you know a good online resource for ordering Madeiras that won't charge me an arm and a leg?

Rare Wine Company in CA is the biggest online retailer of Madeira in North America.

jquirit · 01-04-2009, 02:49 PM

So yesterday I finally found a place that had a decent selection of Madeiras for sale in my area. With that, I had my first "holy s**t" moment. Mike, the guy working the shop at the time (forgot to ask if he was the owner), had a an open bottle of the Rare Wine Company New York Malmsey for taste.

Holy s**t.

I was not expecting such a complex character from it. In some ways, it reminds me a lot of scotch/whisky, but without the real initial alcohol bite. Lots of flavors of nuts, caramel/butterscotch, and some other stuff I couldn't place.

Alas, it was his only bottle left! I did end up getting the last bottle of the Boston Bual to try instead. But, he does now have me on his list of when the Malmsey comes back in I'm getting one.

Thank you, mosesbotbol, for introducing me to this. It definitely impressed me!

mosesbotbol · 01-05-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jquirit

Holy s**t.

I was not expecting such a complex character from it. In some ways, it reminds me a lot of scotch/whisky, but without the real initial alcohol bite. Lots of flavors of nuts, caramel/butterscotch, and some other stuff I couldn't place.

Alas, it was his only bottle left! I did end up getting the last bottle of the Boston Bual to try instead. But, he does now have me on his list of when the Malmsey comes back in I'm getting one.

Thank you, mosesbotbol, for introducing me to this. It definitely impressed me!

I enjoy the Boston Bual a lot too. Glad you are enjoying the Madeira! I just converted my accountant to Madeira and he's buying it like a mad man.

An awesome one to try is the Broadbent 10 Year Malmsey. It goes for under $50 and is readily available. You may be able to find for under $40, but around $35 is wholesale. Quite impressive stuff.

BP22 · 01-17-2009, 06:40 PM

Thanks to this thread I picked up a bottle of Blandy's Madeira Malmsey 15 year ($34.99) on Thursday.

I haven't had a chance to try it yet but am looking forward to it.

mosesbotbol · 01-20-2009, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BP22

Thanks to this thread I picked up a bottle of Blandy's Madeira Malmsey 15 year ($34.99) on Thursday.

I haven't had a chance to try it yet but am looking forward to it.

And?

s15driftking · 01-20-2009, 06:59 AM

I've onyl ever cooked iwht it. i tried to drink it straight once. didn't appeal to me.what temp do you drink it at?

mosesbotbol · 01-20-2009, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by s15driftking

I've onyl ever cooked iwht it. i tried to drink it straight once. didn't appeal to me.what temp do you drink it at?

Just below room temperature. You may have been drinking pretty low level stuff that would be difficult for anyone to really enjoy- if it's just cooking level Madeira.

BP22 · 01-20-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

And?

I haven't cracked it yet...

BP22 · 01-25-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

And?

I am drinking some right now. No cigar accompanying it because I am getting over a cold.

First impressions - "spiced rum" coloring, sweet smell reminds me of creme brulee.

Taste - rich, sweet and it stays with you. Easy to drink.

I will defintely be pairing this with some cigars in the near future.

Thanks for the heads up Moses!

TheRiddick · 01-25-2009, 05:38 PM

Moses,

Ever had good quality Pedro Ximenez with cigars? I would agree that Madeira may be better a choice with cigars than many Portos, but I would also argue that a great PX is probably better still. Any thoughts?

jquirit · 01-25-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BP22

I am drinking some right now. No cigar accompanying it because I am getting over a cold.

First impressions - "spiced rum" coloring, sweet smell reminds me of creme brulee.

Taste - rich, sweet and it stays with you. Easy to drink.

I will defintely be pairing this with some cigars in the near future.

Thanks for the heads up Moses!

Another convert joins the fold. I know I am staring down a dangerous slope when it comes to Madieras. It meets my taste needs of whisky without it being whisky. Too bad both can be expensive.

mosesbotbol · 01-25-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRiddick

Moses,

Ever had good quality Pedro Ximenez with cigars? I would agree that Madeira may be better a choice with cigars than many Portos, but I would also argue that a great PX is probably better still. Any thoughts?

There's a brand called Nobel or Noel that is good. For me, PX is actually too rich and can only get through a glass or so. It is an excellent choice for the real sippers, but I can not sip that slow

Most PX's will state how long they were aged or the Solera they are from; so use that and price as a gauge. I am not a big Sherry expert, but how many PX's are you going to find? Most on the shelf will have a review next to them.

One wine I would like to dig into that seems way under priced is Marsala wine. Been meaning to buy a bottle Florio Marsala, as it is a give away and sounds actually pretty good. Any one had it yet?

mosesbotbol · 01-25-2009, 07:15 PM

As much as I would rather have you all not drinking Madeira and raising the prices at auction, lol... I am glad you are able to find this hidden treasure of the wine world that is just so wonderful a pairing with cigars or just sitting around. It's been America's most beloved style of wine since Jamestown settlement, but in the last 50 years has beem looked over by the masses.

TheRiddick · 01-25-2009, 07:48 PM

Moses,

See if you can get your hands on a bottle of Toro Albala PX, either a 1961 (pretty expensive of you can find it at all) or 1972 vintage. Yes, sippers, as you stated, but with cigars I do sip (rather than drink, which I do otherwise).

Will pay a visit to Rare Wine Co. and buy some Madeira per your recs.

Kreth · 01-25-2009, 07:51 PM

What's a good low-cost Madeira to start my slide down *that* slope?

mosesbotbol · 01-26-2009, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kreth

What's a good low-cost Madeira to start my slide down *that* slope?

Broadbent 10 Year Malmsey - my first pick on this list.
Leacock's 15 Year Bual
Blandy's 10 or 15 Year Malmsey
Rare Wine Company's Historic Series "Boston Bual" or "NY Malmsey"

01-04-2009, 02:49 PM	#23
jquirit Angry Asian Dwarf Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: State of Confusion Posts: 426 Trading: (3)	Re: Madeira - No. 1 Drink for Cigars So yesterday I finally found a place that had a decent selection of Madeiras for sale in my area. With that, I had my first "holy st" moment. Mike, the guy working the shop at the time (forgot to ask if he was the owner), had a an open bottle of the Rare Wine Company New York Malmsey for taste. Holy st. I was not expecting such a complex character from it. In some ways, it reminds me a lot of scotch/whisky, but without the real initial alcohol bite. Lots of flavors of nuts, caramel/butterscotch, and some other stuff I couldn't place. Alas, it was his only bottle left! I did end up getting the last bottle of the Boston Bual to try instead. But, he does now have me on his list of when the Malmsey comes back in I'm getting one. Thank you, mosesbotbol, for introducing me to this. It definitely impressed me! __________________ S: 220/C: 209/G: 180

01-17-2009, 06:40 PM	#25
BP22 Raiding Gerry's Zero Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brandon Location: South of the Border (KM 53.5) Posts: 59 Trading: (1)	Re: Madeira - No. 1 Drink for Cigars Thanks to this thread I picked up a bottle of Blandy's Madeira Malmsey 15 year ($34.99) on Thursday. I haven't had a chance to try it yet but am looking forward to it. __________________ Brandon "Everybody relax, I'm here." Jack Burton

01-20-2009, 06:59 AM	#27
s15driftking Go Browns! Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Bobby Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 2,763 Trading: (16)	Re: Madeira - No. 1 Drink for Cigars I've onyl ever cooked iwht it. i tried to drink it straight once. didn't appeal to me.what temp do you drink it at? __________________ diamonds/guns

01-25-2009, 05:38 PM	#31
TheRiddick Non-believer Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Greg Location: Las Vegas Posts: 943 Trading: (7)	Re: Madeira - No. 1 Drink for Cigars Moses, Ever had good quality Pedro Ximenez with cigars? I would agree that Madeira may be better a choice with cigars than many Portos, but I would also argue that a great PX is probably better still. Any thoughts?

01-25-2009, 07:15 PM	#34
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Madeira - No. 1 Drink for Cigars As much as I would rather have you all not drinking Madeira and raising the prices at auction, lol... I am glad you are able to find this hidden treasure of the wine world that is just so wonderful a pairing with cigars or just sitting around. It's been America's most beloved style of wine since Jamestown settlement, but in the last 50 years has beem looked over by the masses. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

01-25-2009, 07:48 PM	#35
TheRiddick Non-believer Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Greg Location: Las Vegas Posts: 943 Trading: (7)	Re: Madeira - No. 1 Drink for Cigars Moses, See if you can get your hands on a bottle of Toro Albala PX, either a 1961 (pretty expensive of you can find it at all) or 1972 vintage. Yes, sippers, as you stated, but with cigars I do sip (rather than drink, which I do otherwise). Will pay a visit to Rare Wine Co. and buy some Madeira per your recs.

01-25-2009, 07:51 PM	#36
Kreth Ronin smoker Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Oneonta, NY Posts: 3,620 Trading: (14)	Re: Madeira - No. 1 Drink for Cigars What's a good low-cost Madeira to start my slide down that slope?