Photography Thread - Page 17

DBall · 12-21-2009, 07:24 AM

I need to find out how to take good action shots. For instance, of skateboarding... where the subject is moving, but not super fast, however the board is moving fast, like in the middle of a flip trick (where the board is spinning and flipping and the person is moving much slower over it). Any suggestions?

Wolfgang · 12-21-2009, 02:38 PM

What camera? Increasing Shutterspeed will help accomplish this but it all depends on available light. Adding another flash will help too. Or you can go out and spend 5K+ on a lens that has a lower Fstop.

Mugen910 · 12-21-2009, 02:39 PM

ok question....

I took a photo (non moving object) and it needed more light. Besides adding more light on top of the flash. Do I increase the iso or exposure? What's the effect?

Wolfgang · 12-21-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Roland of Gilead

While I agree that "getting the shot" is important if you're a photo jounalist, I do believe that you won't get published as a sports photog if the shot isn't tack sharp with a great Bokeh. This is where glass is everything.

-Mark.

Going back to Darrel who was wanting the 18-200. Is he looking to have photos published and make "art" or is he looking to capture a moment at hand?

Blueface · 12-21-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910

ok question....

I took a photo (non moving object) and it needed more light. Besides adding more light on top of the flash. Do I increase the iso or exposure? What's the effect?

Increasing your ISO will provide you with more light but will also provide you with more grain.

To compensate for light, either open up your f stop (but you do lose depth of field, meaning objects that are near each other won't all be in focus) or you can reduce your shutter speed (which is OK as you said it is not a moving object, so blurring is not an issue). Practice shooting slow shutters and if you move too much, use a tripod. Or better yet, do both shutter and f stop.

DBall · 12-21-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfgang

What camera? Increasing Shutterspeed will help accomplish this but it all depends on available light. Adding another flash will help too. Or you can go out and spend 5K+ on a lens that has a lower Fstop.

Nikon D5000... no flash except the built in one (in fact, I wasn't using even that) and under what, I believe, were fluorescent lights.

Wolfgang · 12-21-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910

ok question....

I took a photo (non moving object) and it needed more light. Besides adding more light on top of the flash. Do I increase the iso or exposure? What's the effect?

Lowering the Fstop will allow more light to hit the sensor (or film) but this can make the picture have a shallow Depth of field . Increasing the ISO cam make it grainy. So if you need more light and it is a stationary object the best thing to do would be to raise the fstop to around F11 and have a longer exposure (tripod required) and an ISO of 200 to 400

What camera are you using?

Blueface · 12-21-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DBall

Nikon D5000... no flash except the built in one (in fact, I wasn't using even that) and under what, I believe, were fluorescent lights.

Dan,
For what you are looking for, best route is expensive. You need a fast lens.

Blueface · 12-21-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfgang

Lowering the Fstop will allow more light to hit the sensor (or film) but this can make the picture have a shallow Depth of field . Increasing the ISO cam make it grainy. So if you need more light and it is a stationary object the best thing to do would be to raise the fstop to around F11 and have a longer exposure (tripod required) and an ISO of 200 to 400

What camera are you using?

Sounds like we both know what we are doing as our answers almost mirror one another.

Wolfgang · 12-21-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DBall

Nikon D5000... no flash except the built in one (in fact, I wasn't using even that) and under what, I believe, were fluorescent lights.

Nikons SB-600 would do the trick. It is a more powerful flash than the on board one that will freeze the object mid frame.

McSmokey · 12-21-2009, 02:47 PM

Anybody in here do old school in the dark room black and white photography? I have a fair amount of paper and film from when I spent my life in the local colleges dark room. Anyone interested shoot me a PM

Blueface · 12-21-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfgang

Nikons SB-600 would do the trick. It is a more powerful flash than the on board one that will freeze the object mid frame.

That is my flash.
Well worth the money.
Add a Gary Fong Diffuser to do indoor and anyone will shoot like a PRO.

Blueface · 12-21-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by McSmokey

Anybody in here do old school in the dark room black and white photography? I have a fair amount of paper and film from when I spent my life in the local colleges dark room. Anyone interested shoot me a PM

Personally, I haven't done that in years. With digital, don't even see the need to ever use all my medium format equipment, let alone 35mm. Digital is much too easy of a way to go.

McSmokey · 12-21-2009, 02:55 PM

I myself am working towards a Digital Nikon but with a baby coming in January my camera will probably have to wait a few monthes

Mugen910 · 12-21-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfgang

Lowering the Fstop will allow more light to hit the sensor (or film) but this can make the picture have a shallow Depth of field . Increasing the ISO cam make it grainy. So if you need more light and it is a stationary object the best thing to do would be to raise the fstop to around F11 and have a longer exposure (tripod required) and an ISO of 200 to 400

What camera are you using?

Thanks for the info blueface & wolfgang.

Nikon D3000

My cousin is letting me borrow his 200mm lens he got at Circuit City when they were closing their B&Ms. You said it's a crap to be able to zoom too much right?

Wolfgang · 12-21-2009, 02:58 PM

I took this picture using only my cameras on board flash.

picture info.
18mm
F7.1
1/200 sec
ISO 400

Wolfgang · 12-21-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910

Nikon D3000

My cousin is letting me borrow his 200mm lens he got at Circuit City when they were closing their B&Ms. You said it's a crap to be able to zoom too much right?

I think its great to have the capability to zoom. As long as there is enough ambient or supplemental light you are golden :-)

DBall · 12-21-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfgang

Nikons SB-600 would do the trick. It is a more powerful flash than the on board one that will freeze the object mid frame.

Do any off-brand ones work close to as good? That flash is more expensive than my 55-200 lens!

DBall · 12-21-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfgang

I took this picture using only my cameras on board flash.

picture info.
18mm
F7.1
1/200 sec
ISO 400

What about quicker moving things like kickflips/tre flips/etc. where the board is whipping around... have you taken any of those?

Seeing pictures like this confirms that I have no clue what I'm doing with my camera...

kgoings · 12-21-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DBall

Do any off-brand ones work close to as good? That flash is more expensive than my 55-200 lens!

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DBall Cigar Jesus Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 3,781 Trading: (46)	Re: Photography Thread I need to find out how to take good action shots. For instance, of skateboarding... where the subject is moving, but not super fast, however the board is moving fast, like in the middle of a flip trick (where the board is spinning and flipping and the person is moving much slower over it). Any suggestions? __________________ --------Dan--------- My Music \| My Videos

12-21-2009, 02:38 PM	#322
Wolfgang Back from the dead Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 2,541 Trading: (14)	Re: Photography Thread What camera? Increasing Shutterspeed will help accomplish this but it all depends on available light. Adding another flash will help too. Or you can go out and spend 5K+ on a lens that has a lower Fstop. __________________ You probably wont remember that test you failed, but you'll never forget the girl you were with the night before, when you decided not to study.

12-21-2009, 02:39 PM	#323
Mugen910 I <3 Huy Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Location Location: First Name Posts: 8,387 Trading: (106)	Re: Photography Thread ok question.... I took a photo (non moving object) and it needed more light. Besides adding more light on top of the flash. Do I increase the iso or exposure? What's the effect? __________________ I'm not antisocial, I just think people are stupid.

12-21-2009, 02:47 PM	#331
McSmokey Feeling at Home Join Date: Aug 2009 First Name: Justin Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 948 Trading: (30)	Re: Photography Thread Anybody in here do old school in the dark room black and white photography? I have a fair amount of paper and film from when I spent my life in the local colleges dark room. Anyone interested shoot me a PM

12-21-2009, 02:55 PM	#334
McSmokey Feeling at Home Join Date: Aug 2009 First Name: Justin Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 948 Trading: (30)	Re: Photography Thread I myself am working towards a Digital Nikon but with a baby coming in January my camera will probably have to wait a few monthes

12-21-2009, 02:58 PM	#336
Wolfgang Back from the dead Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 2,541 Trading: (14)	Re: Photography Thread I took this picture using only my cameras on board flash. picture info. 18mm F7.1 1/200 sec ISO 400 __________________ You probably wont remember that test you failed, but you'll never forget the girl you were with the night before, when you decided not to study.