Game of Thrones

[Bill86]

No spoilers but....after tonights episode, is it me or does anyone have a bit of a time following the characters and remembering their names? I really don't know the names of half of the usually mentioned characters.

Clearly they are compacting A LOT of characters into a short 10 episode season, which I don't understand. This is a BIG show and for it to only have 10 episodes in a season really makes it hard to follow. There are many key characters getting less than 2 minutes per show or sometimes completely missing from episodes. (Tonights example Sansa Stark). One could also argue over Daenerys Targaryen's mere 90 seconds of screen time if that.

Tonight's episode seemed like filler, we all know what we wanted to see happen and it just didn't. They messed around too much and B.S'd their way through spending time pointing out the obvious.

This show needs like 15-18 episodes per season.

[OLS]

Originally Posted by Bill86

No spoilers but....after tonights episode, is it me or does anyone have a bit of a time following the characters and remembering their names? I really don't know the names of half of the usually mentioned characters. .

Try this out, Bill, it's helpful

http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/season1/

http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/season2/

http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of.../guide/houses/

[OLS]

I liken this show to LOST in a lot of ways. You CAN'T take away the sheer majesty and scope of the show, and it
is nicely done, but it's almost like they are suckering you in for a payoff that never comes. Its really not as bad as
Lost was for that, but it's at least as bad as 5-6 episodes of Greene Family Farm-Walking Dead.

That said, I am two episodes behind, so I take care of that tonight.

[Sawyer]

Originally Posted by OLS

I liken this show to LOST in a lot of ways. You CAN'T take away the sheer majesty and scope of the show, and it
is nicely done, but it's almost like they are suckering you in for a payoff that never comes. Its really not as bad as
Lost was for that, but it's at least as bad as 5-6 episodes of Greene Family Farm-Walking Dead.

That said, I am two episodes behind, so I take care of that tonight.

They are doing a good job of mimicking the books then because that is exactly how the books come off to me. Cliffhanger after cliffhanger with very little ever really happening. I am on the last fourth of book five and while there are some exciting things that happen, most of the books seem like filler with these epic cliffhangers that hardly ever turn out to be anything special.

[DBall]

Originally Posted by Bill86

No spoilers but....after tonights episode, is it me or does anyone have a bit of a time following the characters and remembering their names? I really don't know the names of half of the usually mentioned characters.

Clearly they are compacting A LOT of characters into a short 10 episode season, which I don't understand. This is a BIG show and for it to only have 10 episodes in a season really makes it hard to follow. There are many key characters getting less than 2 minutes per show or sometimes completely missing from episodes. (Tonights example Sansa Stark). One could also argue over Daenerys Targaryen's mere 90 seconds of screen time if that.

Tonight's episode seemed like filler, we all know what we wanted to see happen and it just didn't. They messed around too much and B.S'd their way through spending time pointing out the obvious.

This show needs like 15-18 episodes per season.

You should read the books... the show is like a vacation in that regard... they left out at least 50% of characters that have an impact in the book. Seriously, while the show has a lot, the book is crazy with it.

Originally Posted by Sawyer

They are doing a good job of mimicking the books then because that is exactly how the books come off to me. Cliffhanger after cliffhanger with very little ever really happening. I am on the last fourth of book five and while there are some exciting things that happen, most of the books seem like filler with these epic cliffhangers that hardly ever turn out to be anything special.

2 more books in production... though I'm not sure when they are slated to drop. Hopefully the gap isn't as long as between 4 and 5 (5 years, I believe?). My other hope is that some of these questions will be answered... I wonder what is significant and what just simply is what it is because that's how it is.

I'm about a third of the way through book 5 myself.

[Bill86]

Originally Posted by OLS

I liken this show to LOST in a lot of ways. You CAN'T take away the sheer majesty and scope of the show, and it
is nicely done, but it's almost like they are suckering you in for a payoff that never comes. Its really not as bad as
Lost was for that, but it's at least as bad as 5-6 episodes of Greene Family Farm-Walking Dead.

That said, I am two episodes behind, so I take care of that tonight.

Yeah I agree, it's a huge show of epic proportions. Which is why I don't understand the 10 episodes per season and wasting precious time with filler. They really have so little time to deal with and evolve the characters. They really need 14-18 shows per season IMHO. It just doesn't feel right sometimes, like right when it gets interesting it's over. Which is pretty much exactly what you were saying.

Originally Posted by DBall

You should read the books... the show is like a vacation in that regard... they left out at least 50% of characters that have an impact in the book. Seriously, while the show has a lot, the book is crazy with it.

Yeah that's what I have been told. I might look into it. Not really a big reader though.

[DBall]

Originally Posted by Bill86

Yeah that's what I have been told. I might look into it. Not really a big reader though.

Audiobooks FTW! Ray Dotrice does a great job reading them... he's very engaging.

[OLS]

I'll tell you what, Wanger, the 2nd person Arya had killed MIGHT be the coolest thing I have seen on that show to date!

[OLS]

Well I caught up last night and watched S-02 E-7&8 all in one shot and I was more concious than ever before of
this hopping around. Far be it for me to tell them how to tell their story, and I am still enjoying it, but AGAIN,
I long for the simplicity of the first season and how I never felt antsy about moving forward. I will watch with
little complaint, though, it's good stuff. And there ARE a lot of kings vying for the throne, so I guess you need
to deal with it all. This Danaerys thing is looking like a no-win situation, but on the upside, I think John Snow is
going to dip into the red menace. Me likee.

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AHHHHHHH-HA!

Now I know why the red-headed wildling gives me a such a shiver up me bone.

First, I like a pretty redhead to begin with, second the accent KILLS ME, and
third, DUH, she is from Downton Abbey!!! I can spot a familiar face SO FAST,
but I can never place it. Thank goodness for IMDB.

[Powers]

Very much a filler episode. Although I agree w/Brad, we need some more redhead action

[OLS]

That reminds me of another thing this show is doing for me....

Granted, they are dirty, a lot of em, but they have offbeat lookers in every class.
You have the wildling that just took it all off last month,
You have the hot wildling redhead,
You have the hot iron-born princess, who while not strictly hot, is certainly worth
looking at in a medieval sort of way.

All of em are erotically charged in their own, dirty, "I wonder what's going on under that goatskin" kind of way..

And of course, there is lady Stark's new bodyguard, for a 7 footer, man is she hot, lol.

[DBall]

Originally Posted by OLS

And of course, there is lady Stark's new bodyguard, for a 7 footer, man is she hot, lol.

Gwendoline Christie when she's not all Brienne'd out... not a 10 or anything, but much better.

[OLS]

And again, the offbeat woman is the best kind to me.

A lot of people keep telling me that the show will have its first real battle scene. They won't be skipping them like all the others.

What are people's expectations for the battle at Blackwater?

[Islayphile]

Originally Posted by kickerb

A lot of people keep telling me that the show will have its first real battle scene. They won't be skipping them like all the others.

What are people's expectations for the battle at Blackwater?

Allegedly, they spent 15% of their entire season budget on the last episode for Blackwater.

So I'm expecting some epic ass kicking battle scenes.

[DBall]

Originally Posted by Islayphile

Allegedly, they spent 15% of their entire season budget on the last episode for Blackwater.

So I'm expecting some epic ass kicking battle scenes.

It's an epic battle in the book... they could make this crazy...

Great! I hope they don't let their audience down, like they have done in the past.

[Islayphile]

Originally Posted by kickerb

Great! I hope they don't let their audience down, like they have done in the past.

I suspect that far more people are watching the show than the amount of folks who have read the books.

If you don't know the books, you can't be too disappointed if the show isn't following them 100%.

[Powers]

I haven't read the books but one of my friends has read all of them, another the first two and both say the idea/story of his books is great but don't think Martin can write well. They enjoy watching the show more & say the dialogue of the show is much better