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10-18-2009, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Sounds like it may have been very wet. At what rh do you store your cigars and how long had it been in there?

67% according to the digital hygro for about a month now.

NCRadioMan · 10-18-2009, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chingo

67% according to the digital hygro for about a month now.

hmmm....maybe a construction issue then.?.

10-18-2009, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

hmmm....maybe a construction issue then.?.

I'm actually suspecting my hygro now since it did read funny when I tried to calibrate it. Thanks for the tip though, I didn't know this was how over-humid cigars behaved!

wavescrashing · 10-18-2009, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chingo

I'm actually suspecting my hygro now since it did read funny when I tried to calibrate it. Thanks for the tip though, I didn't know this was how over-humid cigars behaved!

I'm not sure how you went about calibrating it, but might I recommend this tutorial regardless of the type of hygrometer(analog/digital): http://www.stogieguys.com/2006/07/st...tion-test.html

The relative humidity, temp., and moisture in your humidor will definitely affect your cigars. If they're too dry, they'll have certain issues such as burning too hot, unraveling, etc. If they're too moist, you might experience a tight draw, having to relight, or even mold.
Your issue could be loosely compared to trying to keep coals hot while barbecuing in the rain. Hope this helps,
Mike

Cigar_Noob · 10-19-2009, 04:39 AM

How do you get Tobacco Beatles? I read that if you have a bad temp in a humidor you can get Tobacco beatles..but how? I mean...we don't grow tobacco up here in Vermont..so how would I get Tobacco beatles? or is it like..pretty much come with the Cigar?

longknocker · 10-19-2009, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cigar_Noob

How do you get Tobacco Beatles? I read that if you have a bad temp in a humidor you can get Tobacco beatles..but how? I mean...we don't grow tobacco up here in Vermont..so how would I get Tobacco beatles? or is it like..pretty much come with the Cigar?

The Beetle Larvae are in many, if not all, cigars. They "Hatch" into live beetles when the temp and RH get above 75 degrees or so. That's a good reason to keep your RH & Temp. below 70. I've only had one problem with Beetles and that was when the temp. in my storage room got above 75. Some people "Freeze" all their cigars when they receive them just to be sure. Check the "Freezing Cigars" Thread.

10-19-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by longknocker

The Beetle Larvae are in many, if not all, cigars. They "Hatch" into live beetles when the temp and RH get above 75 degrees or so. That's a good reason to keep your RH & Temp. below 70. I've only had one problem with Beetles and that was when the temp. in my storage room got above 75. Some people "Freeze" all their cigars when they receive them just to be sure. Check the "Freezing Cigars" Thread.

If you want to know about freezing your cigars here is the thread.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7919

T.G · 10-19-2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cigar_Noob

How do you get Tobacco Beatles? I read that if you have a bad temp in a humidor you can get Tobacco beatles..but how? I mean...we don't grow tobacco up here in Vermont..so how would I get Tobacco beatles? or is it like..pretty much come with the Cigar?

Here's an article from Cigar Magazine - Summer 2008 issue on beetles.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q6TD74G9

Cigar_Noob · 10-19-2009, 06:27 PM

Interesting...I wonder how my two Garcia Y Vega cigars are going!! I bought them like..4 days ago...meh...they shouldn't be eating my Cigar

lopro · 10-21-2009, 01:07 AM

So, I finally got a humidor (used) and I tried calibrating the hygrometer.

I found a method online that had me fill a cup with salt and water and put that in with the hygro into a sealed ziploc bag for 8-12 hours.

So, it is now 12 hrs later and my hygro is only reading 65% opposed to the 75% expected. Now, I know that hygro's are generally off by a few percent, but is this large of a deficit normal?

(It IS an analog hygro -- the one that came with the Savoy humi...)

DPD6030 · 10-21-2009, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lopro

So, I finally got a humidor (used) and I tried calibrating the hygrometer.

I found a method online that had me fill a cup with salt and water and put that in with the hygro into a sealed ziploc bag for 8-12 hours.

So, it is now 12 hrs later and my hygro is only reading 65% opposed to the 75% expected. Now, I know that hygro's are generally off by a few percent, but is this large of a deficit normal?

(It IS an analog hygro -- the one that came with the Savoy humi...)

I'd ditch the analog and get a digital

I leave it in the bag (I actually use a tupperware dish for better seal) for 24-48 hours and if it does not read 75% then I adjust accordingly. I put a small piece of paper with +1 or -1 (or more depending how far it's off) so I know when I look at the hygro where it actually is reading

10-21-2009, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lopro

So, I finally got a humidor (used) and I tried calibrating the hygrometer.

I found a method online that had me fill a cup with salt and water and put that in with the hygro into a sealed ziploc bag for 8-12 hours.

So, it is now 12 hrs later and my hygro is only reading 65% opposed to the 75% expected. Now, I know that hygro's are generally off by a few percent, but is this large of a deficit normal?

(It IS an analog hygro -- the one that came with the Savoy humi...)

I sealed my digital and analog hygro in a ziploc bag with a Boveda 75% humi bag. Hours later, my analog read about 60% and my digital 65%. I tried it over and over with different bags and different settings. Looks like both my hygros are way off

T.G · 10-21-2009, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by lopro

So, I finally got a humidor (used) and I tried calibrating the hygrometer.

I found a method online that had me fill a cup with salt and water and put that in with the hygro into a sealed ziploc bag for 8-12 hours.

So, it is now 12 hrs later and my hygro is only reading 65% opposed to the 75% expected. Now, I know that hygro's are generally off by a few percent, but is this large of a deficit normal?

(It IS an analog hygro -- the one that came with the Savoy humi...)

Normal? I dunno.

Possible? Definately.

Wait 24 to 48 hours and see what it reads.

Analog hygrometers get a bad rap. Why? Becuase there are more crappy ones sold as part of humidor sets than there are crappy digital ones sold as part of humidor sets. Are they inherently crap? No they aren't. There are plenty of good analog hygrometers out there., yours just might not be one of them.

DPD6030 · 10-21-2009, 01:16 AM

Oh and another note I had Western Calibre III digital ones and then went with the oregon scientific wireless ones.

longknocker · 10-21-2009, 05:27 AM

I Have 10 of The HygroSet II Adjustable Digital Hygrometers That I've Used For Over 2 years. They Work Perfectly!

10-21-2009, 08:03 AM

hello my fellow cigar enthusiast! I am a newbie in this website and I am just so happy to have a lot of cigar friends here.

add me up in my facebook account

http://facebook.com/cigarchief

RightAJ · 10-21-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cigarchief

hello my fellow cigar enthusiast! I am a newbie in this website and I am just so happy to have a lot of cigar friends here.

add me up in my facebook account

http://facebook.com/cigarchief

Go visit the New Inmate Processing area, introduce yourself!!

10-21-2009, 10:16 PM

Geessh!...Noob's huh

See ya ole timer

lopro · 10-23-2009, 07:59 PM

So, you don't inhale cigarillos either, correct?

Treat it just like a "short-lived" cigar...?

Chris. · 10-23-2009, 08:09 PM

I dont inhale anything.

10-19-2009, 04:39 AM	#265
Cigar_Noob Still learning the art Join Date: Oct 2009 First Name: Josh Location: Socialist Republic of Vermont Posts: 246 Trading: (1)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) How do you get Tobacco Beatles? I read that if you have a bad temp in a humidor you can get Tobacco beatles..but how? I mean...we don't grow tobacco up here in Vermont..so how would I get Tobacco beatles? or is it like..pretty much come with the Cigar?

10-19-2009, 06:27 PM	#269
Cigar_Noob Still learning the art Join Date: Oct 2009 First Name: Josh Location: Socialist Republic of Vermont Posts: 246 Trading: (1)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Interesting...I wonder how my two Garcia Y Vega cigars are going!! I bought them like..4 days ago...meh...they shouldn't be eating my Cigar

10-21-2009, 01:07 AM	#270
lopro FREE TIBET! Join Date: Oct 2009 First Name: Loren Location: Los Angeles Posts: 49 Trading: (1)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) So, I finally got a humidor (used) and I tried calibrating the hygrometer. I found a method online that had me fill a cup with salt and water and put that in with the hygro into a sealed ziploc bag for 8-12 hours. So, it is now 12 hrs later and my hygro is only reading 65% opposed to the 75% expected. Now, I know that hygro's are generally off by a few percent, but is this large of a deficit normal? (It IS an analog hygro -- the one that came with the Savoy humi...)

10-21-2009, 01:16 AM	#274
DPD6030 Shepard of the sheeple Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (151)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Oh and another note I had Western Calibre III digital ones and then went with the oregon scientific wireless ones.

10-21-2009, 05:27 AM	#275
longknocker Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 11,162 Trading: (82)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) I Have 10 of The HygroSet II Adjustable Digital Hygrometers That I've Used For Over 2 years. They Work Perfectly!

10-21-2009, 08:03 AM	#276
cigarchief Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) hello my fellow cigar enthusiast! I am a newbie in this website and I am just so happy to have a lot of cigar friends here. add me up in my facebook account http://facebook.com/cigarchief

10-21-2009, 10:16 PM	#278
fyrftr Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Geessh!...Noob's huh See ya ole timer

10-23-2009, 07:59 PM	#279
lopro FREE TIBET! Join Date: Oct 2009 First Name: Loren Location: Los Angeles Posts: 49 Trading: (1)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) So, you don't inhale cigarillos either, correct? Treat it just like a "short-lived" cigar...?

10-23-2009, 08:09 PM	#280
Chris. PSHC! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,842 Trading: (25)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) I dont inhale anything. __________________