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chippewastud79 · 09-03-2011, 02:36 PM

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Not sure what this has to do with the argument? I never said he was the fastest player in the league. He is pretty darn fast, though.

To be honest, I am more than ok with him being on this team as long as Dusty realizes that Stubbs will be nothing more than a 6-8 hitter. We all know that he can't be a leadoff hitter b/c of his swing. Stubbs' numbers would be acceptable as a bottom of the order hitter on most MLB teams.

He doesn't have to speed to bunt for a base hit on the reg. He is quick, can't get on base very well, so it negates a lot of the upside to the way he plays baseball. He would be a fabulous pinch runner the way he strikes out, that would give him significantly more SB attempts.

chippewastud79 · 09-03-2011, 02:39 PM

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I like him 6-8 too, the biggest issue with him in Cincy was the fact that he was batting leadoff and couldnt get on base. Now that hes in the middle of the lineup, it works well. He's batting around what you could expect out a 6-8 batter and it gets him work while at the same time taking pressure off him of getting on base. Also, the speed in the end of the lineup is a nice jolt.
To be honest, I am more than ok with him being on this team as long as Dusty realizes that Stubbs will be nothing more than a 6-8 hitter. We all know that he can't be a leadoff hitter b/c of his swing. Stubbs' numbers would be acceptable as a bottom of the order hitter on most MLB teams.

He really is an 8 hitter, if he gets on base the pitcher bunts him over and he can score on deep singles.

chippewastud79 · 09-03-2011, 10:24 PM

Reds must have lost.

icehog3 · 09-03-2011, 10:37 PM

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Reds must have lost.

No Dan sighting?

Let me help.

Tigers win! Tigers win!

chippewastud79 · 09-03-2011, 10:48 PM

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No Dan sighting?

That was my first clue.

Tigers pulled off a nice one tonight. Maybe I should cheer for them more hardily. Its tough not getting FSN Detroit in Cincinnati, I wish I could see the Tigers more often. They have better announcers on FSN Detroit too. Cutting away during the rain delay to see the Reds losing was kind of ironic, as I was reminded why watching the Tigers was always more fun.

icehog3 · 09-03-2011, 10:56 PM

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That was my first clue.

Tigers pulled off a nice one tonight. Maybe I should cheer for them more hardily. Its tough not getting FSN Detroit in Cincinnati, I wish I could see the Tigers more often. They have better announcers on FSN Detroit too. Cutting away during the rain delay to see the Reds losing was kind of ironic, as I was reminded why watching the Tigers was always more fun.

I think they put the nail in the Wite Sox' coffin tonight, and I don't think the Indians have the jiuce.

Unfortunately, I don't think the Tigers can get out of the AL unless their starting pitchers can all give them 7 innings a game....not just Verlander and Fister.

chippewastud79 · 09-03-2011, 11:00 PM

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I think they put the nail in the Wite Sox' coffin tonight, and I don't think the Indians have the jiuce.

Unfortunately, I don't think the Tigers can get out of the AL unless their starting pitchers can all give them 7 innings a game....not just Verlander and Fister.

I concur. Sadly, it appears as if they are in line to be the Reds of last year in the AL this year. They just can't have Verlander start 3 games in a 5 game series.

Starscream · 09-04-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

He doesn't have to speed to bunt for a base hit on the reg. He is quick, can't get on base very well, so it negates a lot of the upside to the way he plays baseball. He would be a fabulous pinch runner the way he strikes out, that would give him significantly more SB attempts.

If they did that, we wouldn't need Arroyo anymore.

Starscream · 09-05-2011, 06:58 PM

30 one run losses this season.
Only team that is beating us in that category is KC with 31.

chippewastud79 · 09-05-2011, 07:27 PM

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30 one run losses this season.
Only team that is beating us in that category is KC with 31.

The opposite of last season when they pulled off a bunch of miracle wins in the last AB's.

Win their first series of the season against the Cardinals and then follow it up by losing to the Cubs.

They just don't like supporting Willis I think

chippewastud79 · 09-05-2011, 07:35 PM

How do you feel about Stubbs in the 2 spot? He is batting .250 and slugging .300, how do you put him in the 2 spot? He is only 16 K's from 200 and if Phillips isn't on base, he is absolutely worthess in the 2 spot. Again leaving Votto batting with the bases empty and 2 outs. Not a fan of putting Stubbs anywhere higher than 7.

Also of note: Willis has a average that is .150 higher than Stubbs and got the same number of hits and none of the strikeouts.

Starscream · 09-05-2011, 08:46 PM

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They just don't like supporting Willis I think

I'm starting to think that's the case.

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How do you feel about Stubbs in the 2 spot? He is batting .250 and slugging .300, how do you put him in the 2 spot? He is only 16 K's from 200 and if Phillips isn't on base, he is absolutely worthess in the 2 spot. Again leaving Votto batting with the bases empty and 2 outs. Not a fan of putting Stubbs anywhere higher than 7.

Also of note: Willis has a average that is .150 higher than Stubbs and got the same number of hits and none of the strikeouts.

Only place that Stubbs should be at in this lineup is in the 6-8 spot, and in the nine spot when Leake and Willis are hitting. The problem is, I don't know who I would put in the two hole. Dusty likes to put his SSs out there, but Janish is what, 0-28 of late?

elderboy02 · 09-06-2011, 10:00 PM

Reds win! Reds win!

icehog3 · 09-06-2011, 10:52 PM

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Reds win! Reds win!

waffle · 09-07-2011, 06:04 AM

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i LOVE it!!!!! YEAH TOM! And I believe what Dan meant to say is "Joey Votto saves the day yet again... what are the Reds going to do when he's outta here????"

elderboy02 · 09-07-2011, 07:24 AM

EDIT: Nevermind.

icehog3 · 09-07-2011, 08:24 AM

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EDIT: Nevermind.

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waffle · 09-07-2011, 08:26 AM

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EDIT: Tom's poor Cubbies.... just be happy its not a 5 team division because at least they're not in last place

icehog3 · 09-07-2011, 08:30 AM

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EDIT: Tom's poor Cubbies.... just be happy its not a 5 team division because at least they're not in last place

But my Tigers are in 1st!

P.S.....Dan, you know we love you.

waffle · 09-07-2011, 08:34 AM

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But my Tigers are in 1st!

P.S.....Dan, you know we love you.

Beats my Reds.... and yes Dan, we love you, mine wasn't a shot at you, it was a shot at blowing the lead in the bottom of the 9th... and having to hop on the back of possibly the best player in the NL .... AGAIN.... I'm really going to miss him in two years when he moves back to Toronto to be the white Joe Carter, smiling rounding the bases in the World Series

09-03-2011, 10:24 PM	#2743
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Reds must have lost. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

09-05-2011, 06:58 PM	#2749
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Red's Fans Check in 30 one run losses this season. Only team that is beating us in that category is KC with 31. __________________ Insert quote here.

09-05-2011, 07:35 PM	#2751
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Red's Fans Check in How do you feel about Stubbs in the 2 spot? He is batting .250 and slugging .300, how do you put him in the 2 spot? He is only 16 K's from 200 and if Phillips isn't on base, he is absolutely worthess in the 2 spot. Again leaving Votto batting with the bases empty and 2 outs. Not a fan of putting Stubbs anywhere higher than 7. Also of note: Willis has a average that is .150 higher than Stubbs and got the same number of hits and none of the strikeouts. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

09-06-2011, 10:00 PM	#2753
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,499 Trading: (133)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Reds win! Reds win!

09-07-2011, 07:24 AM	#2756
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,499 Trading: (133)	Re: Red's Fans Check in EDIT: Nevermind.