First Firearm Thread. - Page 13

gettysburgfreak · 01-19-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark C

Check out this post:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost....22&postcount=3

I found a link somewhere with a picture of one for sale that looked identical, but it didn't have very much info. Can't find that link any more either.

I don't think it is American Made. If it was a Harpers Ferry model it would be stamped. Its possible it was used in the CW and then shipped back to Europe for use. I know a guy who bought a carbine in Afghanistan and it was used in the CW.

01-19-2009, 07:23 PM

Just bought my first handgun and shotgun about a week ago.

The handgun is a Springfield XD40 and the Shotgun is an Escort 12 gauge pump action.

Pics to follow soon.

GTsetGO · 01-19-2009, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ubergopher

Just bought my first handgun and shotgun about a week ago.

The handgun is a Springfield XD40 and the Shotgun is an Escort 12 gauge pump action.

Pics to follow soon.

i love my XD40

Mark C · 01-20-2009, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak

I don't think it is American Made. If it was a Harpers Ferry model it would be stamped. Its possible it was used in the CW and then shipped back to Europe for use. I know a guy who bought a carbine in Afghanistan and it was used in the CW.

I meant I believe it's European manufactured, probably shipped over here for use in the CW. The rifling pattern and caliber don't match anything US-made, but they're close.

I wish I could shoot it. The barrel looks to be in good condition, the trigger and hammer all work well, but the percussion nipple is corroded enough that there's no opening to the main barrel. I imagine antique gunsmiths are few and far between these days.

gettysburgfreak · 01-20-2009, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark C

I meant I believe it's European manufactured, probably shipped over here for use in the CW. The rifling pattern and caliber don't match anything US-made, but they're close.

I wish I could shoot it. The barrel looks to be in good condition, the trigger and hammer all work well, but the percussion nipple is corroded enough that there's no opening to the main barrel. I imagine antique gunsmiths are few and far between these days.

Most likely. Its tough finding those old muskets in good enough condition to fire and the ones that are are very expensive I wouldn't fire it. Still a sweet gun though.

Mark C · 01-21-2009, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak

Most likely. Its tough finding those old muskets in good enough condition to fire and the ones that are are very expensive I wouldn't fire it. Still a sweet gun though.

I sent off an email to College Hill Arsenal and Tim Prince hooked me up. He says it definitely is an Austrian M1842, manufactured in 1848, and converted to percussion, possibly by Leman in Lancaster, PA, though the bolster is missing the clean out screw he used. He also said the cut stock was probably done in the 1920s, one guy (forgot his name) was notorious for cutting stocks to ship surplus arms in smaller boxes. He did tell me not to even consider firing it, as the Austrians used crappy iron that probably isn't any good 160 yrs down the road, regardless of apparent condition. Also valued it at ~$600. I do like the look of it, might try and find a functional repro just for fun

I'd definitely recommend Tim and College Hill Arsenal for anyone interested in CW-era 'stuff'!

smokeyandthebandit05 · 01-21-2009, 11:03 AM

I found a good website while lookin for a video on how to take down my 870

http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to/vi...on-870-152184/

There are more videos for hand guns and other types of firearms

elderboy02 · 01-21-2009, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05

I found a good website while lookin for a video on how to take down my 870

http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to/vi...on-870-152184/

There are more videos for hand guns and other types of firearms

That is a good video. I need to clean my guns this weekend b/c I shot them on Friday. It was a great time.

smokeyandthebandit05 · 01-21-2009, 07:13 PM

Alright I ordered 1000 rounds of PMC .223 ammo from ableammo.com. Tonight I recieved an email saying...

Dear Customer,

We have learned, that our PMC 223 will arrive the last week of February,
possibly the first week of March. We did sit down with PMC, and negotiated a
little better price. We also have negotiated with Fiocchi ammunition company a
good deal on .223 ammo. We wanted to give you our customer an option, due to
the delay on the PMC.

1. We can hold your order for the PMC, and continue to reserve it for you. We
will adjust the charge per 1000 round case to $349.50 per case.

2. We can offer the same load in Fiocchi brand .223 for $349.50 per 1000 round
case. Fiocchi, has notified us that they will deliver to us within the first
two weeks of February.

Both Brands of ammunition are brass cased 55 grain .223 FMJ.

Please let us know how you wish us to proceed with your order.

What Im wondering is should I take the PMC ammo or Fiocchi?
Has anyone shot either of these loads or know which one is better?

smokeyandthebandit05 · 01-23-2009, 11:57 PM

bump?

JE3146 · 01-24-2009, 02:46 AM

Haven't heard anything regarding Fiocchi.

PMC though gets about a 90% favorability with only 4% of users suffering an issue that'd prevent them from buying the ammo again.

(This is being run through AR-15's)

elderboy02 · 01-24-2009, 10:24 AM

I would go with the PMC. Over on ARFCOM, it has a great rating like Jordan mentioned above.

smokeyandthebandit05 · 01-24-2009, 11:34 PM

Well my uncle said to go with the PMC as well, both are military surplus. I decided to go with the Fiocchi as this is somethin like when you were a teenager and made a decision on the fly and when you tell your dad he smacks your head. All Im usin it for is in my bolt action Rem 700 doing small varmit and target shooting.

Hopefully I dont regret this but if it does suck I can always buy PMC and sell the Fiocchi to a friend.

Ratters · 01-25-2009, 02:03 AM

I haven't shot the .223 Fiocchi but I've shot a lot of their 9mm and .45 and it's all nice clean shooting stuff. I'd try the .223 without a problem.

smokeyandthebandit05 · 01-26-2009, 01:10 PM

Does anyone have info on Remington Shotguns Manufactured March 1959?

I received a Remington Sportsman 12 Pump Magnum and Im tryin to figure out what the model number is and what parts if I ever need them to get.

It doesnt say 870 or anything like that and my uncles and another guy at work know a good bit about guns and they say it was probably made for Sears or a company like that to sell in their catalogs or maybe a Stevens (I highly doubt)

01-26-2009, 02:47 PM

I'm having a hard time tracking down a Nagant revolver... I don't want to go to gun broker because that's too slippery a slope for me, and costs seems to fly up.

Mark C · 01-26-2009, 07:10 PM

Try www.aimsurplus.com? Might take awhile to ship though.

01-26-2009, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark C

Try www.aimsurplus.com? Might take awhile to ship though.

Holy crap 80 bucks.

Ordering tomorrow

You are awesome thanks much!

elderboy02 · 01-26-2009, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace$nyper

Holy crap 80 bucks.

Ordering tomorrow

You are awesome thanks much!

AIM is an awesome compnay to deal with. They are top-notch. I had a problem with an AK magazine that I bought. It was rusted to hell and back. I took the floor plate off and tried to sand the mag, but it wouldn't work. I called them and they just sent me a new one

01-27-2009, 12:26 AM

Does anyone here have any experience with building an AR-15, and if you do any recomendation on the parts to get?

01-19-2009, 07:23 PM	#242
Ubergopher Guest Posts: n/a	Re: First Firearm Thread. Just bought my first handgun and shotgun about a week ago. The handgun is a Springfield XD40 and the Shotgun is an Escort 12 gauge pump action. Pics to follow soon.

01-21-2009, 11:03 AM	#247
smokeyandthebandit05 Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Rich Location: Branchville Posts: 758 Trading: (1)	Re: First Firearm Thread. I found a good website while lookin for a video on how to take down my 870 http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to/vi...on-870-152184/ There are more videos for hand guns and other types of firearms __________________ MIAMI CANES 9-4 NJ DEVILS 37-21-3

01-21-2009, 07:13 PM	#249
smokeyandthebandit05 Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Rich Location: Branchville Posts: 758 Trading: (1)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Alright I ordered 1000 rounds of PMC .223 ammo from ableammo.com. Tonight I recieved an email saying... Dear Customer, We have learned, that our PMC 223 will arrive the last week of February, possibly the first week of March. We did sit down with PMC, and negotiated a little better price. We also have negotiated with Fiocchi ammunition company a good deal on .223 ammo. We wanted to give you our customer an option, due to the delay on the PMC. 1. We can hold your order for the PMC, and continue to reserve it for you. We will adjust the charge per 1000 round case to $349.50 per case. 2. We can offer the same load in Fiocchi brand .223 for $349.50 per 1000 round case. Fiocchi, has notified us that they will deliver to us within the first two weeks of February. Both Brands of ammunition are brass cased 55 grain .223 FMJ. Please let us know how you wish us to proceed with your order. What Im wondering is should I take the PMC ammo or Fiocchi? Has anyone shot either of these loads or know which one is better? __________________ MIAMI CANES 9-4 NJ DEVILS 37-21-3

01-23-2009, 11:57 PM	#250
smokeyandthebandit05 Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Rich Location: Branchville Posts: 758 Trading: (1)	Re: First Firearm Thread. bump? __________________ MIAMI CANES 9-4 NJ DEVILS 37-21-3

01-24-2009, 02:46 AM	#251
JE3146 Jordan #2 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jordan Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 2,115 Trading: (26)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Haven't heard anything regarding Fiocchi. PMC though gets about a 90% favorability with only 4% of users suffering an issue that'd prevent them from buying the ammo again. (This is being run through AR-15's)

01-24-2009, 10:24 AM	#252
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,508 Trading: (133)	Re: First Firearm Thread. I would go with the PMC. Over on ARFCOM, it has a great rating like Jordan mentioned above.

01-24-2009, 11:34 PM	#253
smokeyandthebandit05 Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Rich Location: Branchville Posts: 758 Trading: (1)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Well my uncle said to go with the PMC as well, both are military surplus. I decided to go with the Fiocchi as this is somethin like when you were a teenager and made a decision on the fly and when you tell your dad he smacks your head. All Im usin it for is in my bolt action Rem 700 doing small varmit and target shooting. Hopefully I dont regret this but if it does suck I can always buy PMC and sell the Fiocchi to a friend. __________________ MIAMI CANES 9-4 NJ DEVILS 37-21-3

01-25-2009, 02:03 AM	#254
Ratters Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,848 Trading: (2)	Re: First Firearm Thread. I haven't shot the .223 Fiocchi but I've shot a lot of their 9mm and .45 and it's all nice clean shooting stuff. I'd try the .223 without a problem.

01-26-2009, 01:10 PM	#255
smokeyandthebandit05 Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Rich Location: Branchville Posts: 758 Trading: (1)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Does anyone have info on Remington Shotguns Manufactured March 1959? I received a Remington Sportsman 12 Pump Magnum and Im tryin to figure out what the model number is and what parts if I ever need them to get. It doesnt say 870 or anything like that and my uncles and another guy at work know a good bit about guns and they say it was probably made for Sears or a company like that to sell in their catalogs or maybe a Stevens (I highly doubt) __________________ MIAMI CANES 9-4 NJ DEVILS 37-21-3

01-26-2009, 02:47 PM	#256
Ace$nyper Guest Posts: n/a	Re: First Firearm Thread. I'm having a hard time tracking down a Nagant revolver... I don't want to go to gun broker because that's too slippery a slope for me, and costs seems to fly up.

01-26-2009, 07:10 PM	#257
Mark C Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SE PA Posts: 674 Trading: (4)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Try www.aimsurplus.com? Might take awhile to ship though.

01-27-2009, 12:26 AM	#260
Ubergopher Guest Posts: n/a	Re: First Firearm Thread. Does anyone here have any experience with building an AR-15, and if you do any recomendation on the parts to get?