Official MMA Thread - Page 13

BengalMan · 07-10-2009, 08:47 AM

GSP is fighting, I forgot how much goalie jocks him, lol.

Anyways, tomorrow's card is going to be amazing. I think the Mir Lesnar fight is going to be faster than people think. Ultimately, I think Mir will once catch an over zealous Brock in a submission.

As far as the GSP fight goes, Alves is far superior in striking, much bigger, much stronger (Alves projected to walk into the ring at around 197-200 lbs) I think this fight has the ability to go 5 rounds and be boring. Why? Because despite GSP saying he'll stand and bang with Alves, he won't because he'll get put to sleep. Ultimately, I think GSP will take down Alves fairly at will, and unfortunately this may turn into a lay-n-pray snooze fest.

The Hendo and Bisping fight is a toss up to me. I believe Hendo is the superior fighter and will ultimately win, however it's hard for me to call this one.

I hope we get to see the Jon Jones fight as well as the Coleman/Bonnar fight. I think it's hysterical that Coleman comes back, gets put into the UFC Hall of Fame, and is now relinquished to the non-televised under card.

07-10-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BengalMan

As far as the GSP fight goes, Alves is far superior in striking, much bigger, much stronger (Alves projected to walk into the ring at around 197-200 lbs)

Yeah, but let's see if he makes weight this time.

I still think GSP will man handle him. In training he gives Rashad Evans and guys that size a lot of trouble with regards to wrestling .

I think there will be a decisive win by GSP.

TriStar · 07-10-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BengalMan

Ultimately, I think GSP will take down Alves fairly at will, and unfortunately this may turn into a lay-n-pray snooze fest.

Not once has GSP been on top and simply played the lay-n-pray strategy. He doesn't stop working when he's on top and Alves' face will look like Fitch's after tomorrow night.

TriStar · 07-10-2009, 11:47 AM

Just in case anyone forgot how Fitch's face looked like when GSP was on top for nearly the entire fight:

07-10-2009, 12:29 PM

thats an ugly picture, alves should give gsp a challenge. dont forget about paul thiago that could be a future champ. and he is already a primetime guy in only his second ufc appearance. Fitch's face might get rearanged again.

07-10-2009, 12:30 PM

thats an ugly picture, alves should give gsp a challenge. dont forget about paul thiago, he could be a future champ. and he is already a primetime guy in only his second ufc appearance. Fitch's face might get rearanged again.

Ken · 07-10-2009, 03:13 PM

Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir - I want a rubber match. I think the match of is quite interesting. Won't go past the 2nd round either by Grape Ape poundage or a skilled sub.
Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves - Alves has the big punch but holds nothing else over GSP. But that big punch can ruin your night.
Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping - Even though Hendo is getting up in the years Bisping hasn't fought anyone close to his caliber. We'll see how good he thinks he is after this fight.
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago -oddly enough
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher - Good fight. Everyone thought Kang would run over Belcher.
Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman
Jim Miller vs.Mac Danzig - Yeah, probably, though I hope I'm wrong.
Dong Hyun Kim vs. T.J. Grant
Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien
CB Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor

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Originally Posted by TriStar

Not once has GSP been on top and simply played the lay-n-pray strategy. He doesn't stop working when he's on top and Alves' face will look like Fitch's after tomorrow night.

GSP is an active ground guy and puts a hurting on people. Lay-n-pray didn't force Serra to tap or make BJ 'the man ready to die' Penn unable to walk out of his corner at the bell.

P.S. - I did like the knee-bar Mir put on Lesnar in their 1st fight, so if I see that again I will neither be surprised nor disappointed.

goalie204 · 07-10-2009, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BengalMan

GSP is fighting, I forgot how much goalie jocks him, lol.

As far as the GSP fight goes, Alves is far superior in striking, much bigger, much stronger (Alves projected to walk into the ring at around 197-200 lbs) I think this fight has the ability to go 5 rounds and be boring. Why? Because despite GSP saying he'll stand and bang with Alves, he won't because he'll get put to sleep. Ultimately, I think GSP will take down Alves fairly at will, and unfortunately this may turn into a lay-n-pray snooze fest.

I've been following gsp for a LONG time. Anyway, he's going to destroy alves.

12stones · 07-10-2009, 09:15 AM

I can't wait to see this card!! Here's some more predictions:

http://www.faniq.com/blog/UFC-100-Pr...ves-Blog-26708

ActionAndy · 07-10-2009, 09:37 AM

I give Mir less than %20 on this one. I'm not a Lesnar fan...actually I'm not a fan of any current heavyweight other than Fedor. It's just that I can't think of a way for Mir to harm Brock. Yes he caught him in a sub, but how long ago was that? Lesnar should have been training nonstop against that sort of thing, I just can't see it happening twice. But hopefully it's an exciting fight.

07-11-2009, 02:17 AM

I hope Akiyama loses, that guy is a coward. He has been caught greasing up with vasaline before against Sakauraba.

Savvy · 07-11-2009, 05:13 AM

UFC Heavyweight Championship
Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir Hopefully Mir can win, should be a good one.

UFC Welterweight Championship
Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves

Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher
Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman
Jim Miller vs. Mac Danzig
Dong Hyun Kim vs. T.J. Grant
Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien
CB Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor
Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty

I'm in Germany right now, anyone know where I can stream this at about 3am here haha.

TriStar · 07-11-2009, 11:52 AM

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I'm in Germany right now, anyone know where I can stream this at about 3am here haha.

Legally, you can purchase off of Yahoo, they stream every UFC online. Illegally, I'm not sure. I hear the free streams are crap anyways might as well wait a day or two and get the PPV.

BengalMan · 07-11-2009, 11:01 AM

Everyone is saying that Mir's submission was lucky, random, etc. In a way it was, however, Mir is one of the BEST BJJ submission artists in the game today. He is VERY comfortable on his back and on top, and as we saw in the Nog fight, Mir's striking has IMPROVED vastly. I don't think the first sub on Brock was a fluke, it was Mir waiting for the time to take advantage of his far superior ground game. One thing though is Brock is VERY fast and has an excellent wrestling game. This fight should be very interesting with Brock's superior size, strength, and wrestling, however Mir's superior striking and BJJ. Either way this fight is going to be a war, and I have a feeling will end before the end of round 3.

The Alves/GSP fight is going to be good. I'm eager to see both their game plans. I'm not doubting that GSP is a BEAST and is very well rounded, but I think this is his biggest challenge yet.

I'm not impressed with Paulo Thiago at all. He was dominated the whole fight till he landed that shot on Koscheck that put him out. Now he faces Fitch, a bigger and better wrestler than Kos. I just don't see Thiago coming out of this one with a W.

I really hope Jon Jones wins, if he does, I think he'll get a big push into contention at LHW and onto main cards. Jake O'Brien is the exact definition of lay and pray though. He's one of the most boring fighters I've seen, the question is will Jones be able to stop Jake's takedown's and his superior wrestling.

BengalMan · 07-11-2009, 10:48 PM

What a KO by Hendo! He was charging that right hand ALL FIGHT. GSP straight dominated Alves and IMO the only fighter in the world that has a chance of beating him right now is Anderson and I think we'll see that fight sooner than later. Looking forward to see the fight that laced the mat FULL of blood.

Comicbookfreak · 07-11-2009, 11:34 PM

Brock pulled that horseshoe outta Mir's ass and beat him over the head with it.

Mir got lucky the first time cause the ref pulled Brock off of him after some BS supposed shots to the back of the head. Mir was not that lucky this time. Mir was exposed for the over rated fighter he has always been. Guess Brock proved that pro wrestlers ain't as fake as some people might think. Glad Brock shut the over rated Mir up. Brock will continue to improve with his superior work ethic. Now let's see Fedor and Brock fight that would be a great fight and probably the only person in the MMA world that could give Brock a decent challenge or beat him at this point.

goalie204 · 07-11-2009, 11:31 PM

called the gsp fight, that was an easy one.

Brock is a stupid dick, and an immature champion. He's far from an ambassador to the sport as champion the way gsp, silva and machida are.

Comicbookfreak · 07-11-2009, 11:40 PM

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Brock is a stupid dick, and an immature champion. He's far from an ambassador to the sport as champion the way gsp, silva and machida are.

Brock is a showman and puts asses in the seats and sells PPV's that's what the UFC is about selling tickets and PPV's not being a nice warm and fuzzy champ. Screw being an ambassador, I would rather see a beast with a win at all cost, beat the chit outta the other guy attitude. "The Next Big Thing" is that. It's war in there not a how do i come off looking to the public contest.

I wonder if Brock's Coors taste good tonight lol Budweiser sucks!!

BengalMan · 07-11-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Comicbookfreak

Brock is a showman and puts asses in the seats and sells PPV's that's what the UFC is about selling tickets and PPV's not being a nice warm and fuzzy champ. Screw being an ambassador, I would rather see a beast with a win at all cost, beat the chit outta the other guy attitude. "The Next Big Thing" is that.

I wonder if Brock's Coors taste good tonight lol Budweiser sucks

I'm not even going to comment on your statements. Please go back to watching Monday Night Raw.

Comicbookfreak · 07-11-2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BengalMan

I'm not even going to comment on your statements. Please go back to watching Monday Night Raw.

The why did you comment lol. Sore loser huh rofl. Oh and for the record I haven't watched Wrestling in over a year.

07-10-2009, 08:47 AM	#1
BengalMan Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ian Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,280 Trading: (10)	Re: Official MMA Thread GSP is fighting, I forgot how much goalie jocks him, lol. Anyways, tomorrow's card is going to be amazing. I think the Mir Lesnar fight is going to be faster than people think. Ultimately, I think Mir will once catch an over zealous Brock in a submission. As far as the GSP fight goes, Alves is far superior in striking, much bigger, much stronger (Alves projected to walk into the ring at around 197-200 lbs) I think this fight has the ability to go 5 rounds and be boring. Why? Because despite GSP saying he'll stand and bang with Alves, he won't because he'll get put to sleep. Ultimately, I think GSP will take down Alves fairly at will, and unfortunately this may turn into a lay-n-pray snooze fest. The Hendo and Bisping fight is a toss up to me. I believe Hendo is the superior fighter and will ultimately win, however it's hard for me to call this one. I hope we get to see the Jon Jones fight as well as the Coleman/Bonnar fight. I think it's hysterical that Coleman comes back, gets put into the UFC Hall of Fame, and is now relinquished to the non-televised under card.

07-10-2009, 11:47 AM	#4
TriStar Smokes, let's go. Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 63 Trading: (1)	Re: Official MMA Thread Just in case anyone forgot how Fitch's face looked like when GSP was on top for nearly the entire fight: __________________

07-10-2009, 12:29 PM	#5
Steelergar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Official MMA Thread thats an ugly picture, alves should give gsp a challenge. dont forget about paul thiago that could be a future champ. and he is already a primetime guy in only his second ufc appearance. Fitch's face might get rearanged again.

07-10-2009, 12:30 PM	#6
Steelergar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Official MMA Thread thats an ugly picture, alves should give gsp a challenge. dont forget about paul thiago, he could be a future champ. and he is already a primetime guy in only his second ufc appearance. Fitch's face might get rearanged again.

07-10-2009, 09:15 AM	#9
12stones Yo Mama is so... Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Ricky Location: Houston, TX Posts: 184 Trading: (1)	Re: Official MMA Thread I can't wait to see this card!! Here's some more predictions: http://www.faniq.com/blog/UFC-100-Pr...ves-Blog-26708

07-10-2009, 09:37 AM	#10
ActionAndy Dayman, Master of Karate Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Andy Location: Saratoga Springs, NY Posts: 671 Trading: (7)	Re: Official MMA Thread I give Mir less than %20 on this one. I'm not a Lesnar fan...actually I'm not a fan of any current heavyweight other than Fedor. It's just that I can't think of a way for Mir to harm Brock. Yes he caught him in a sub, but how long ago was that? Lesnar should have been training nonstop against that sort of thing, I just can't see it happening twice. But hopefully it's an exciting fight.

07-11-2009, 02:17 AM	#11
Steelergar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Official MMA Thread I hope Akiyama loses, that guy is a coward. He has been caught greasing up with vasaline before against Sakauraba.

07-11-2009, 05:13 AM	#12
Savvy Bull Goose Loony Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jordan Location: Wherever the AF takes me Posts: 381 Trading: (11)	Re: Official MMA Thread UFC Heavyweight Championship Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir Hopefully Mir can win, should be a good one. UFC Welterweight Championship Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman Jim Miller vs. Mac Danzig Dong Hyun Kim vs. T.J. Grant Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien CB Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty I'm in Germany right now, anyone know where I can stream this at about 3am here haha.

07-11-2009, 11:01 AM	#14
BengalMan Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ian Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,280 Trading: (10)	Re: Official MMA Thread Everyone is saying that Mir's submission was lucky, random, etc. In a way it was, however, Mir is one of the BEST BJJ submission artists in the game today. He is VERY comfortable on his back and on top, and as we saw in the Nog fight, Mir's striking has IMPROVED vastly. I don't think the first sub on Brock was a fluke, it was Mir waiting for the time to take advantage of his far superior ground game. One thing though is Brock is VERY fast and has an excellent wrestling game. This fight should be very interesting with Brock's superior size, strength, and wrestling, however Mir's superior striking and BJJ. Either way this fight is going to be a war, and I have a feeling will end before the end of round 3. The Alves/GSP fight is going to be good. I'm eager to see both their game plans. I'm not doubting that GSP is a BEAST and is very well rounded, but I think this is his biggest challenge yet. I'm not impressed with Paulo Thiago at all. He was dominated the whole fight till he landed that shot on Koscheck that put him out. Now he faces Fitch, a bigger and better wrestler than Kos. I just don't see Thiago coming out of this one with a W. I really hope Jon Jones wins, if he does, I think he'll get a big push into contention at LHW and onto main cards. Jake O'Brien is the exact definition of lay and pray though. He's one of the most boring fighters I've seen, the question is will Jones be able to stop Jake's takedown's and his superior wrestling.

07-11-2009, 10:48 PM	#15
BengalMan Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ian Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,280 Trading: (10)	Re: Official MMA Thread What a KO by Hendo! He was charging that right hand ALL FIGHT. GSP straight dominated Alves and IMO the only fighter in the world that has a chance of beating him right now is Anderson and I think we'll see that fight sooner than later. Looking forward to see the fight that laced the mat FULL of blood.

07-11-2009, 11:34 PM	#16
Comicbookfreak Tattooed 4 Life Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Goverment Facility Solving The Riddles of Time Travel Posts: 91 Trading: (0)	Re: Official MMA Thread Brock pulled that horseshoe outta Mir's ass and beat him over the head with it. Mir got lucky the first time cause the ref pulled Brock off of him after some BS supposed shots to the back of the head. Mir was not that lucky this time. Mir was exposed for the over rated fighter he has always been. Guess Brock proved that pro wrestlers ain't as fake as some people might think. Glad Brock shut the over rated Mir up. Brock will continue to improve with his superior work ethic. Now let's see Fedor and Brock fight that would be a great fight and probably the only person in the MMA world that could give Brock a decent challenge or beat him at this point. __________________ Before you see the light you must die - SLAYER Stories are only given life by man, Reality is given life by experience.

07-11-2009, 11:31 PM	#17
goalie204 Have My Own Room Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Myles Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,659 Trading: (12)	Re: Official MMA Thread called the gsp fight, that was an easy one. Brock is a stupid dick, and an immature champion. He's far from an ambassador to the sport as champion the way gsp, silva and machida are.