How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post - Page 13

BaitFish · 08-19-2013, 01:08 PM

Where do people stand on this topic now? I noticed this thread is several years old. Do you still freeze? If so, is it more out of habit now? I'm wondering if the industry has made any improvements the last few years to prevent beetles in their products. I may start freezing myself, if nothing else but for piece of mind.

mk05 · 07-10-2013, 11:34 AM

Nice flute

Wondering what people are doing regarding this topic...are people still freezing? I am not.

14holestogie · 07-10-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mk05

Nice flute

Wondering what people are doing regarding this topic...are people still freezing? I am not.

I would imagine those that see the benefit of freezing are still freezing.
I do and am.

equetefue · 08-19-2013, 01:17 PM

man, i need to start freezing.. just so afraid of the wrapper splitting so bad

Chainsaw13 · 08-19-2013, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BaitFish

Where do people stand on this topic now? I noticed this thread is several years old. Do you still freeze? If so, is it more out of habit now? I'm wondering if the industry has made any improvements the last few years to prevent beetles in their products. I may start freezing myself, if nothing else but for piece of mind.

I still freeze. With the investment made, it's worth the extra step to make sure none of it gets affected.

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Originally Posted by equetefue

man, i need to start freezing.. just so afraid of the wrapper splitting so bad

I've frozen all my cigars, including LE Tat's that have the thinnest of wrappers, without any issues. Just give them time to acclimate back in the humidor after removing from the freezer. I usually give it 2-3 weeks before I smoke anything I froze.

baust55 · 10-13-2013, 06:16 PM

I am new here I recently went from a seldom smoker to a little more often . I am 100 miles from any decent B & M's so I got a humidor and ordered a few bundles . I googled up about how to take care of the humidor and cigars . I read article about freezing . When I got my bundles each cigar was in a cello and the bundle wrapped in cello . I put the bundles in several large zip locks . with most air squeezed out . I put them in the fridge for 24 hours then into my small cheapi deep freezer in the basement for 72 hours ... probably over kill . then back to the fridge for 24 then in room temp for 12hr then into the humidor . how dose that sound to you experts ?

Austin

bobarian · 10-13-2013, 07:14 PM

Perfect

baust55 · 10-13-2013, 07:49 PM

COOL NO BUGS FOR ME !

Austin

CoronaCigar · 05-07-2014, 02:05 AM

Excellent info here, I have several wineadors and after doing all the research I have finally decided to start freezing my sticks. So far wineador #1 is complete, and the second one is in the freezer as I type this. Triple bagging might be overkill, but I don't mind taking the extra time to make sure moisture stays in! Great information on this thread!

baust55 · 06-06-2014, 03:28 PM

I am still freezing OCD helps keep me on track !

Austin

S.E.Nebraska

8zeros · 06-06-2014, 04:38 PM

I have to admit I never freeze. I also have never seen a beetle hole on one of my cigars. I think it's because my main storage is in the basement where it is always cool all year long. First beetle hole I see and I will become the Freeze Avenger. For now, what the heck.

Subvet642 · 06-17-2014, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 8zeros

I have to admit I never freeze. I also have never seen a beetle hole on one of my cigars. I think it's because my main storage is in the basement where it is always cool all year long. First beetle hole I see and I will become the Freeze Avenger. For now, what the heck.

Yeah, I'm with you on that!

airtrade · 06-17-2014, 09:09 PM

Has anyone had a stick damaged from freezing too fast. No fridge time?

T.G · 06-17-2014, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by airtrade

Has anyone had a stick damaged from freezing too fast. No fridge time?

Manufacturers along with some distributors and even a few vendors typically utilize blast freezers in this process, which will cool the cigars much faster than a residential freezer and to much lower temps. Additionally, no real refrigerator time is used either; the cigars are just wheeled in, blast frozen, left at temp for a few days, then wheeled out to warm up. Sustaining damage to the cigars via this process is very rare.

On a residential level, I've never bothered with the refrigerator step, I don't feel it's necessary, I just stick them right into a deep freezer (-10F) for a week and I've never had a cigar damaged by skipping the refrigerator steps.

Subvet642 · 06-18-2014, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G

Manufacturers along with some distributors and even a few vendors typically utilize blast freezers in this process, which will cool the cigars much faster than a residential freezer and to much lower temps. Additionally, no real refrigerator time is used either; the cigars are just wheeled in, blast frozen, left at temp for a few days, then wheeled out to warm up. In neither case are there typically any damages.

On a residential level, I've never bothered with the refrigerator step, I don't feel it's necessary, I just stick them right into a deep freezer (-10F) for a week and I've never had a cigar damaged by skipping it.

I have mine inspected and nitrogen packed in shipping and I've been okay so far.

Chainsaw13 · 06-18-2014, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G

On a residential level, I've never bothered with the refrigerator step, I don't feel it's necessary, I just stick them right into a deep freezer (-10F) for a week and I've never had a cigar damaged by skipping the refrigerator steps.

Same here. Straight from freezer to cabinet, no issues. I've even smoked a still slightly frozen cigar on occassion and not had any issues.

airtrade · 06-18-2014, 08:00 AM

Good to know. I have always gone from shipped to freezer to cooler.
Thought maybe I've just been lucky.

Sweet_Leaf_PDX · 11-30-2014, 11:09 AM

Reading through this I came up with a question. When you freeze the cigars, do you take them out of the box or keep them in the box?

markem · 11-30-2014, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet_Leaf_PDX

Reading through this I came up with a question. When you freeze the cigars, do you take them out of the box or keep them in the box?

If you plan to freeze the cigars when they first arrive, no need to take them out of the box. If you find beetles after the fact, no issues freezing them out of the box.

However, on the off chance that an egg is sitting free in the box, I'd freeze the box as well.

Sweet_Leaf_PDX · 11-30-2014, 11:25 AM

Thanks! That's exactly what I wanted to know.

07-10-2013, 11:34 AM	#2
mk05 Have My Own Room Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,331 Trading: (2)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Nice flute Wondering what people are doing regarding this topic...are people still freezing? I am not.

08-19-2013, 01:17 PM	#4
equetefue Liga Privada Hoarder Join Date: Jun 2012 First Name: Edwin Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,348 Trading: (17)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post man, i need to start freezing.. just so afraid of the wrapper splitting so bad

10-13-2013, 06:16 PM	#6
baust55 AUSTIN Join Date: Oct 2013 First Name: JAMES Location: NEBRASKA Posts: 241 Trading: (1)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post I am new here I recently went from a seldom smoker to a little more often . I am 100 miles from any decent B & M's so I got a humidor and ordered a few bundles . I googled up about how to take care of the humidor and cigars . I read article about freezing . When I got my bundles each cigar was in a cello and the bundle wrapped in cello . I put the bundles in several large zip locks . with most air squeezed out . I put them in the fridge for 24 hours then into my small cheapi deep freezer in the basement for 72 hours ... probably over kill . then back to the fridge for 24 then in room temp for 12hr then into the humidor . how dose that sound to you experts ? Austin

10-13-2013, 07:14 PM	#7
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Perfect

10-13-2013, 07:49 PM	#8
baust55 AUSTIN Join Date: Oct 2013 First Name: JAMES Location: NEBRASKA Posts: 241 Trading: (1)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post COOL NO BUGS FOR ME ! Austin

08-19-2013, 01:08 PM	#1
BaitFish BOTL Join Date: Aug 2013 First Name: Carl Location: AR Posts: 7 Trading: (0)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Where do people stand on this topic now? I noticed this thread is several years old. Do you still freeze? If so, is it more out of habit now? I'm wondering if the industry has made any improvements the last few years to prevent beetles in their products. I may start freezing myself, if nothing else but for piece of mind.

05-07-2014, 02:05 AM	#9
CoronaCigar Time to fire one up! Join Date: Mar 2014 First Name: Steve Location: Corona Posts: 24 Trading: (0)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Excellent info here, I have several wineadors and after doing all the research I have finally decided to start freezing my sticks. So far wineador #1 is complete, and the second one is in the freezer as I type this. Triple bagging might be overkill, but I don't mind taking the extra time to make sure moisture stays in! Great information on this thread!

06-06-2014, 03:28 PM	#10
baust55 AUSTIN Join Date: Oct 2013 First Name: JAMES Location: NEBRASKA Posts: 241 Trading: (1)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post I am still freezing OCD helps keep me on track ! Austin S.E.Nebraska

06-06-2014, 04:38 PM	#11
8zeros What's this button do? Join Date: Dec 2013 First Name: Roger Location: Far from everything Posts: 268 Trading: (0)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post I have to admit I never freeze. I also have never seen a beetle hole on one of my cigars. I think it's because my main storage is in the basement where it is always cool all year long. First beetle hole I see and I will become the Freeze Avenger. For now, what the heck. __________________

06-17-2014, 09:09 PM	#13
airtrade Just in from the Storm Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Stefan Location: Oh-io Posts: 33 Trading: (0)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Has anyone had a stick damaged from freezing too fast. No fridge time?

06-18-2014, 08:00 AM	#17
airtrade Just in from the Storm Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Stefan Location: Oh-io Posts: 33 Trading: (0)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Good to know. I have always gone from shipped to freezer to cooler. Thought maybe I've just been lucky.

11-30-2014, 11:09 AM	#18
Sweet_Leaf_PDX Feeling at Home Join Date: May 2013 First Name: Jason Location: Portland, OR Posts: 605 Trading: (11)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Reading through this I came up with a question. When you freeze the cigars, do you take them out of the box or keep them in the box?

11-30-2014, 11:25 AM	#20
Sweet_Leaf_PDX Feeling at Home Join Date: May 2013 First Name: Jason Location: Portland, OR Posts: 605 Trading: (11)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Thanks! That's exactly what I wanted to know.