Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) - Page 129

SipNpuff · 10-20-2015, 10:00 AM

Thank you gentlemen. I appreciate the advice.

stearns · 10-20-2015, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dave

Worse, you may find Euphoria again a year or two later, and find that while it has the same name, it could be a totally different blend, crushing your enthusiasm for Gurkha and turning you into the same crotchety, cynical Gurkha basher that so many of us have become.

jroszhart · 10-20-2015, 11:29 AM

I have a three drawer Humidor and its hard to keep the humidity at 70 percent. Any suggestions? I have Xikar Crystal Humidifier 100 Count and two Xikar Crystal Humidifier 50 Count.

My wife got me a humidor that has four glass sides and the top and bottom is wood as well as the drawers. I did season the humidor before the cigars went in.

thanks

pnoon · 10-20-2015, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jroszhart

I have a three drawer Humidor and its hard to keep the humidity at 70 percent. Any suggestions? I have Xikar Crystal Humidifier 100 Count and two Xikar Crystal Humidifier 50 Count.

My wife got me a humidor that has four glass sides and the top and bottom is wood as well as the drawers. I did season the humidor before the cigars went in.

thanks

IMO:
70% is a bit high
Ditch the crystals and get beads or Boveda packs
Ensure the seals along the glass panels are intact.

Also, what kind of hygrometer (analog or digital) do you have and has it been salt-tested and calibrated?

jroszhart · 10-20-2015, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

IMO:
70% is a bit high
Ditch the crystals and get beads or Boveda packs
Ensure the seals along the glass panels are intact.

Also, what kind of hygrometer (analog or digital) do you have and has it been salt-tested and calibrated?

The hygrometer an analog and I have a small digital one in the humidor, has not be salt-tested how do I do that? I was thinking about the beads. I have close to 50 cigars in my box lots of good gifts from friends.

any suggestions on earthy full cigars?

pnoon · 10-20-2015, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jroszhart

The hygrometer an analog and I have a small digital one in the humidor, has not be salt-tested how do I do that? I was thinking about the beads. I have close to 50 cigars in my box lots of good gifts from friends.

any suggestions on earthy full cigars?

Ignore the analog.

Salt test - http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...highlight=salt

As for cigar suggestions, all I can tell you is to read the Cigar Discussions and Reviews here. Tons of information.

jroszhart · 10-20-2015, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

Ignore the analog.

Salt test - http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...highlight=salt

As for cigar suggestions, all I can tell you is to read the Cigar Discussions and Reviews here. Tons of information.

thanks

jroszhart · 10-22-2015, 09:40 AM

If you have to pick ten cigars to live off of what would you pick and why?

icehog3 · 10-22-2015, 10:24 AM

Bolivar Petite Coronas
Cohiba Siglo IIs
H. Upmann Connnie 1s
Montecristo #4s
Partagas Shorts
PSD4s
Quai D'Orsay Coronas
RASCC
San Cristobol El Principes
Trinidad Reyes

Why? 'cause they're all so ****ing delicious!

remdoc10 · 10-22-2015, 01:16 PM

I have a question. Not to change the subject. I heard that an igloo cooler with crystals and a hygrometer can make for an effective humidor for long term storage. Is this accurate? Does not having the Spanish cedar make a difference?

I was planning on using the cooler system for bulk storage and then transferring to my square box cedar humidor as space allows.

Thoughts?

remdoc10 · 10-22-2015, 01:24 PM

Just saw the bit about beads vs crystals. Sad because I just upgraded from the sponge and standard hygrometer to the xikar digital hygrometer and crystals thinking I was getting the best setup. I had never heard of beads...

remdoc10 · 10-22-2015, 01:26 PM

Also, I have the hygrometer magnesium adhered to the lid but it keeps falling down. Thinking of using gorilla glue or epoxy to get it to stay...

remdoc10 · 10-22-2015, 01:31 PM

hygrometer "magnet". sorry.. autocorrect

big_jaygee · 10-22-2015, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by remdoc10

Just saw the bit about beads vs crystals. Sad because I just upgraded from the sponge and standard hygrometer to the xikar digital hygrometer and crystals thinking I was getting the best setup. I had never heard of beads...

Get these HCM BEADS

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Originally Posted by remdoc10

Also, I have the hygrometer magnesium adhered to the lid but it keeps falling down. Thinking of using gorilla glue or epoxy to get it to stay...

Just toss it in and leave it on top... no need for it to be glued on the top. Hell i don't even use one.

CigarNut · 10-22-2015, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by remdoc10

I have a question. Not to change the subject. I heard that an igloo cooler with crystals and a hygrometer can make for an effective humidor for long term storage. Is this accurate? Does not having the Spanish cedar make a difference?

I was planning on using the cooler system for bulk storage and then transferring to my square box cedar humidor as space allows.

Thoughts?

Coolers make great humidors. They seal well and hold lots of cigars and are relatively inexpensive.

Spanish cedar aids in humidification, and can impart some scent or flavor to your cigars, but it is not needed. More like a nice-to-have -- which you can still have by taking Spanish cedar from cigar boxes and placing it in your cooler.

Finally, if you do add cedar, consider seasoning the cedar first, otherwise if the wood is dry (or wet) it is likely to play havoc with your RH.

RWhisenand · 10-23-2015, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by remdoc10

Just saw the bit about beads vs crystals. Sad because I just upgraded from the sponge and standard hygrometer to the xikar digital hygrometer and crystals thinking I was getting the best setup. I had never heard of beads...

Not sure where you live, but where I live we average 11% Ambiant RH so two way humidification is less necessary. I used crystal for quite awhile before switching to beads. Beads are unmistakably better, but with some playing around I was able to make the other methods work fine.

idrankwhat · 10-24-2015, 10:33 AM

Remdoc10 I have a coolidor and I use the hearfelt beads. So far they work fantastic. That doesn't mean there isn't something better out there.

On a different topic, I'm wanting to understand all these other descriptions people use for cigars. I understand the hay bail smell, several cigars I've had, had that smell when I got them. I know chocolate and coffee of course, but when you say leather, or earthy, I'm not exactly sure what that means. Does it smell like dirt? I'd like to get a list of a few cigars that are good examples of these different flavors. Hopefully some not very expensive ones if they have off flavors, but good examples. I've had some peppery ones and I do like the peppery flavored ones too. Can you guys give me some examples of cigars that would be good examples of these descriptive or off flavors?

Porch Dweller · 10-25-2015, 04:46 PM

I don't have some recommendations, but this might help:

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It's a good reference on flavor categories and can help you look for more nuanced flavors in your cigars. So when someone describes a stick as "spicy" or "woody" it can get you thinking more how those break down further.
There are dozens of these out there; just google "Cigar tasting wheel" if you want more options.

idrankwhat · 10-25-2015, 08:19 PM

Thanks Porch Dweller, that's a good start for me I think. That will kind of help me know what to look for. I do that with craft beer all the time.

AdamJoshua · 10-25-2015, 09:06 PM

Mark if you have people to herf with it's always great to have someone smoking a cigar they are picking up such and such a flavor or tasting note, then you get to hit that same cigar and try to pick up the same flavor notes, everyone has a different palate (I personally have the palate of a goat), but you can learn a lot and learn what to look for, sometimes ... rarely but sometimes I'm able to pick something out that others are struggling to name. (Ok maybe twice

).

10-20-2015, 10:00 AM	#2561
SipNpuff Just in from the Storm Join Date: Oct 2015 First Name: Bill Location: Florida Posts: 4 Trading: (0)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Thank you gentlemen. I appreciate the advice.

10-20-2015, 11:29 AM	#2563
jroszhart Just in from the Storm Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 4 Trading: (0)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) I have a three drawer Humidor and its hard to keep the humidity at 70 percent. Any suggestions? I have Xikar Crystal Humidifier 100 Count and two Xikar Crystal Humidifier 50 Count. My wife got me a humidor that has four glass sides and the top and bottom is wood as well as the drawers. I did season the humidor before the cigars went in. thanks

10-22-2015, 09:40 AM	#2568
jroszhart Just in from the Storm Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 4 Trading: (0)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) If you have to pick ten cigars to live off of what would you pick and why?

10-22-2015, 10:24 AM	#2569
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,295 Trading: (60)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Bolivar Petite Coronas Cohiba Siglo IIs H. Upmann Connnie 1s Montecristo #4s Partagas Shorts PSD4s Quai D'Orsay Coronas RASCC San Cristobol El Principes Trinidad Reyes Why? 'cause they're all so ****ing delicious! __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

10-22-2015, 01:16 PM	#2570
remdoc10 Age, fac ut gaudeam. Join Date: Oct 2015 First Name: Rob Location: Midwest Posts: 9 Trading: (0)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) I have a question. Not to change the subject. I heard that an igloo cooler with crystals and a hygrometer can make for an effective humidor for long term storage. Is this accurate? Does not having the Spanish cedar make a difference? I was planning on using the cooler system for bulk storage and then transferring to my square box cedar humidor as space allows. Thoughts?

10-22-2015, 01:24 PM	#2571
remdoc10 Age, fac ut gaudeam. Join Date: Oct 2015 First Name: Rob Location: Midwest Posts: 9 Trading: (0)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Just saw the bit about beads vs crystals. Sad because I just upgraded from the sponge and standard hygrometer to the xikar digital hygrometer and crystals thinking I was getting the best setup. I had never heard of beads...

10-22-2015, 01:26 PM	#2572
remdoc10 Age, fac ut gaudeam. Join Date: Oct 2015 First Name: Rob Location: Midwest Posts: 9 Trading: (0)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Also, I have the hygrometer magnesium adhered to the lid but it keeps falling down. Thinking of using gorilla glue or epoxy to get it to stay...

10-22-2015, 01:31 PM	#2573
remdoc10 Age, fac ut gaudeam. Join Date: Oct 2015 First Name: Rob Location: Midwest Posts: 9 Trading: (0)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) hygrometer "magnet". sorry.. autocorrect

10-24-2015, 10:33 AM	#2577
idrankwhat Just in from the Storm Join Date: Apr 2015 First Name: Mark Location: Virginia Posts: 16 Trading: (0)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Remdoc10 I have a coolidor and I use the hearfelt beads. So far they work fantastic. That doesn't mean there isn't something better out there. On a different topic, I'm wanting to understand all these other descriptions people use for cigars. I understand the hay bail smell, several cigars I've had, had that smell when I got them. I know chocolate and coffee of course, but when you say leather, or earthy, I'm not exactly sure what that means. Does it smell like dirt? I'd like to get a list of a few cigars that are good examples of these different flavors. Hopefully some not very expensive ones if they have off flavors, but good examples. I've had some peppery ones and I do like the peppery flavored ones too. Can you guys give me some examples of cigars that would be good examples of these descriptive or off flavors?

10-25-2015, 04:46 PM	#2578
Porch Dweller Life is for living Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: James Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 8,398 Trading: (24)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) I don't have some recommendations, but this might help: [IMG][/IMG] It's a good reference on flavor categories and can help you look for more nuanced flavors in your cigars. So when someone describes a stick as "spicy" or "woody" it can get you thinking more how those break down further. There are dozens of these out there; just google "Cigar tasting wheel" if you want more options. __________________ A 1911 in the hand is faster than 911 on the phone

10-25-2015, 08:19 PM	#2579
idrankwhat Just in from the Storm Join Date: Apr 2015 First Name: Mark Location: Virginia Posts: 16 Trading: (0)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Thanks Porch Dweller, that's a good start for me I think. That will kind of help me know what to look for. I do that with craft beer all the time.

10-25-2015, 09:06 PM	#2580
AdamJoshua Article 4 Free Inhabitant Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: The Other Adam Location: Satellite Beach Posts: 14,787 Trading: (40)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Mark if you have people to herf with it's always great to have someone smoking a cigar they are picking up such and such a flavor or tasting note, then you get to hit that same cigar and try to pick up the same flavor notes, everyone has a different palate (I personally have the palate of a goat), but you can learn a lot and learn what to look for, sometimes ... rarely but sometimes I'm able to pick something out that others are struggling to name. (Ok maybe twice ).