First Firearm Thread. - Page 129

emopunker2004 · 02-09-2012, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Volusianator

Hmmm, both the CW9 and PM9 look like something I may be interested in just by specs alone, now I just gotta go to Gander and take a look.

Check out the Cw9 and the CM9. Both can be had from buds gun shop or cheaper than dirt for about $325-$400 shipped to your local FFL.

Shot my friends CW9 and loved it.
here is a pic of the CM9 vs LC9

Stevez · 02-09-2012, 09:17 AM

I too wanted the Ruger, but absolutely hated the long trigger pull. I ended up with the Kahr CM9 and love it. If you are thinking about the PM9, I would encourage you to study the differences in features and prices. I just couldn't personally justify the higher cost of the PM9, but some do and are very happy. My CM9 is my CCW and I love it as I said. I love the trigger and find it very accurate for the size of the weapon. Good luck. Steve

Poronico · 02-09-2012, 11:12 AM

Sig Tac Ops 226 9mm. Amazing weapon, 20+1 stack with 4 mags standard. I will post groupings when I hit the range next, but last time out I put 5 rounds in a quarter at 27 feet.

weak_link · 02-09-2012, 04:10 PM

Serious question- what is 20 grain .22lr good for? I saw it on sale but can't figure out why I would want it.

BlkDrew · 02-09-2012, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by weak_link

Serious question- what is 20 grain .22lr good for? I saw it on sale but can't figure out why I would want it.

target .....

Bill86 · 02-09-2012, 04:23 PM

Maybe a small rodent problem?

Mice or rats.

Poronico · 02-09-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by weak_link

Serious question- what is 20 grain .22lr good for? I saw it on sale but can't figure out why I would want it.

Assassinations...

weak_link · 02-09-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BlkDrew

target .....

All my .22lr target ammo is 40 grain.

Rodents makes sense, especially if you are shooting in a barn or something.

Assanations...now yer talkin'!

Poronico · 02-09-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by weak_link

All my .22lr target ammo is 40 grain.

Rodents makes sense, especially if you are shooting in a barn or something.

Assanations...now yer talkin'!

I'm just sayin... IF I was going to do it... that's what I would use.

02-09-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Poronico

Assassinations...

Shhhh! They'll ban it.

smitty81 · 02-09-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by weak_link

All my .22lr target ammo is 40 grain.

Rodents makes sense, especially if you are shooting in a barn or something.

Assanations...now yer talkin'!

shouldn't it be the other way around?

I'd rather have a lighter grain for targets cause all it has to do is hit.

The heavier grain would be better for varmits because it will have more energy.

WyGuy · 02-09-2012, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

shouldn't it be the other way around?

I'd rather have a lighter grain for targets cause all it has to do is hit.

The heavier grain would be better for varmits because it will have more energy.

The lighter bullets tend to have a much higher velocity making them shoot a bit flatter, also with the higher velocity is the almost explosive type fragmentation when they hit small varmints. One downside with the lighter bullets is that wind affects them more.

For punching holes in paper it does't matter all that much, at least to me.

smitty81 · 02-09-2012, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WyGuy

The lighter bullets tend to have a much higher velocity making them shoot a bit flatter

Yes, but 20 grains difference for a 22, your not going to notice. Also, your not going to be shooting real far with a 22 to be concerned about bullet drop.
also with the higher velocity is the almost explosive type fragmentation when they hit small varmints.
Depends on what type of bullet your shooting. Hollow points yes, soft points, not so much.
One downside with the lighter bullets is that wind affects them more.
.22 is so small, wind will affect them both about the same really.

For punching holes in paper it does't matter all that much, at least to me.

Think of shooting a deer with a 270 and then shooting prairie dogs with a 270.

Heavier bullet for the deer, lighter bullet for the prairie dog. No need to overkill a prairie dog and waste the extra lead and powder.

Same goes for 22 in theory........

I reload all my ammo..................lots of time to play and study

theonlybear4CORT · 02-09-2012, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by weak_link

Serious question- what is 20 grain .22lr good for? I saw it on sale but can't figure out why I would want it.

Do you still have that rodent that chewed up your bike harness?

Volusianator · 02-10-2012, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004

Check out the Cw9 and the CM9. Both can be had from buds gun shop or cheaper than dirt for about $325-$400 shipped to your local FFL.

Shot my friends CW9 and loved it.
here is a pic of the CM9 vs LC9

I LOVE the look of the LC9, but that trigger pull is just sooo long. I've been looking at both Kahr's lately and am going to the local shop tomorrow to feel them out. I really like what I've read about the PM9 and the CW9 seems like a great lesser expensive version. Looking forward to a little more research tomorrow.

Thanks for the advice gentlemen.

emopunker2004 · 02-10-2012, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Volusianator

I LOVE the look of the LC9, but that trigger pull is just sooo long. I've been looking at both Kahr's lately and am going to the local shop tomorrow to feel them out. I really like what I've read about the PM9 and the CW9 seems like a great lesser expensive version. Looking forward to a little more research tomorrow.

Thanks for the advice gentlemen.

Hey. the CM9 is a cheaper PM9. Lil less milling, some MIM parts and regular rifling not polygonal rifling. The CW9 is bigger than the CM9 and PM9. Still a smaller gun tho.
This is the CW9 vs CM9

DrDubzz · 02-10-2012, 10:21 PM

I have a question for the AR gurus. I'm going to start piecing one together soon, but am undecided on which stripped lower to begin with, I've narrowed it down to 3

Stag (can get locally for a good price)
Palmetto State (available online, would be about even to the Stag after FFL fee)
Spikes (4-6 week wait time, bout the same price after fees)

I've read good things about all of them, I'm leaning towards the Stag since it's local-ish, any input?

emopunker2004 · 02-10-2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RX2010

I have a question for the AR gurus. I'm going to start piecing one together soon, but am undecided on which stripped lower to begin with, I've narrowed it down to 3

Stag (can get locally for a good price)
Palmetto State (available online, would be about even to the Stag after FFL fee)
Spikes (4-6 week wait time, bout the same price after fees)

I've read good things about all of them, I'm leaning towards the Stag since it's local-ish, any input?

I would say PSA but that's just me. No personal experience, just heard alot of good things about PSA in the forums. Remember, if you buy the lower at your local dealer u gotta pay tax on it too. Go with the cheapest

Poronico · 02-10-2012, 11:02 PM

This is probably going to be my next build...

RRA forged lower
RRA NM 2 stage trigger
RRA forged flat top upper with Wilson 24" 1:8 twist match grade stainless bull barrel
Harris Bi-Pod on a Larue LT-130 mount
PSG1 grip
Yankee Hill Four Rail Free Float Forearm
Magpul PRS Stock
8-32x56 scope in a Larue LT-104 Mount
A.R.M.S. 40L BUIS
Yankee Hill Gas Block Front Sight

02-10-2012, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poronico

This is probably going to be my next build...

RRA forged lower
RRA NM 2 stage trigger
RRA forged flat top upper with Wilson 24" 1:8 twist match grade stainless bull barrel
Harris Bi-Pod on a Larue LT-130 mount
PSG1 grip
Yankee Hill Four Rail Free Float Forearm
Magpul PRS Stock
8-32x56 scope in a Larue LT-104 Mount
A.R.M.S. 40L BUIS
Yankee Hill Gas Block Front Sight

Dang!
That's all.

02-09-2012, 09:17 AM	#2562
Stevez Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Steve Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 487 Trading: (7)	Re: First Firearm Thread. I too wanted the Ruger, but absolutely hated the long trigger pull. I ended up with the Kahr CM9 and love it. If you are thinking about the PM9, I would encourage you to study the differences in features and prices. I just couldn't personally justify the higher cost of the PM9, but some do and are very happy. My CM9 is my CCW and I love it as I said. I love the trigger and find it very accurate for the size of the weapon. Good luck. Steve

02-09-2012, 11:12 AM	#2563
Poronico Teh Forever Noob Join Date: Aug 2009 First Name: Jesse Location: Bonney Lake, Wa Posts: 868 Trading: (5)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Sig Tac Ops 226 9mm. Amazing weapon, 20+1 stack with 4 mags standard. I will post groupings when I hit the range next, but last time out I put 5 rounds in a quarter at 27 feet. __________________ Fellows, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pocket, you better use them to call the tailor. "TMIMITW"

02-09-2012, 04:10 PM	#2564
weak_link The Stranger Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Eric Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,263 Trading: (1)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Serious question- what is 20 grain .22lr good for? I saw it on sale but can't figure out why I would want it.

02-09-2012, 04:23 PM	#2566
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Maybe a small rodent problem? Mice or rats. __________________ I'm drunk......but I'll get drunker! - Doug Stanhope

02-10-2012, 10:21 PM	#2577
DrDubzz Formerly RX2010 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Virginia Posts: 2,201 Trading: (34)	Re: First Firearm Thread. I have a question for the AR gurus. I'm going to start piecing one together soon, but am undecided on which stripped lower to begin with, I've narrowed it down to 3 Stag (can get locally for a good price) Palmetto State (available online, would be about even to the Stag after FFL fee) Spikes (4-6 week wait time, bout the same price after fees) I've read good things about all of them, I'm leaning towards the Stag since it's local-ish, any input?

02-10-2012, 11:02 PM	#2579
Poronico Teh Forever Noob Join Date: Aug 2009 First Name: Jesse Location: Bonney Lake, Wa Posts: 868 Trading: (5)	Re: First Firearm Thread. This is probably going to be my next build... RRA forged lower RRA NM 2 stage trigger RRA forged flat top upper with Wilson 24" 1:8 twist match grade stainless bull barrel Harris Bi-Pod on a Larue LT-130 mount PSG1 grip Yankee Hill Four Rail Free Float Forearm Magpul PRS Stock 8-32x56 scope in a Larue LT-104 Mount A.R.M.S. 40L BUIS Yankee Hill Gas Block Front Sight __________________ Fellows, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pocket, you better use them to call the tailor. "TMIMITW"