Red's Fans Check in - Page 121

chippewastud79 · 07-17-2011, 07:28 PM

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True, but that is ok. There are plenty of games that we have lost because of our stupidity. It all balances out in the end.

Not really, the Reds have been fortunate to win extra games this season already. Its a carry over from last season, they shouldn't even be in a lot of games they pulled out of their ass. Dusty or someone must be praying to God now-a-days because winning games when they look like trash is a good sign but doesn't bode well down the stretch/possible playoffs.

Stubbs started and they won. Firmly in 4th place, no danger of falling into 5th anytime soon

Starscream · 07-17-2011, 09:36 PM

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It depends on who is pulling the strings in the organization. There is definitely something that compels Dusty to put Stubbs in the leadoff spot the day after Heisey puts two in the seats and plays better defense than Stubbs ever does. I don't know that Dusty even runs the show anymore.

This is sarcasm, right? With the exception of putting Gomes in the lineup for his bobblehead day and being forced to play Cozart over Renteria, we still see the same old Dusty lineups day in and day out, the same old lefty vs righty battles that don't work, poor choices in the pen, and just blatant mismanagement late in games.

I really want to like they guy, b/c he's a great personality in the clubhouse, but these mistakes have just been boneheaded. Sticking with guys way too long b/c he's a players' manager is another thing that irks me. Mismanagement, plus the baserunning errors by the new guys and Stubbs, and the problem this team has hitting with .risp is what is killing us right now.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not placing total blame on Dusty. He does a lot of things right, but his lineups suck and his hunches never play out. I'm getting fed up.

Starscream · 07-17-2011, 09:37 PM

And another thing - Rolen needs to go. His shoulder is killing us right now. Let Cairo get some games in at third.

You'd think I'd be more positive right now after the Reds won another series against the Cards, but we just looked bad in all three games.

chippewastud79 · 07-18-2011, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

Don't get me wrong, I'm not placing total blame on Dusty. He does a lot of things right, but his lineups suck and his hunches never play out. I'm getting fed up.

I am just implying that someone above Dusty may be forcing him to play certain players because of money owed/investment/draft pick/complete trashiness. Does he really want to play Renteria? Stubbs? Bailey? I'm not sure anyone does.

Starscream · 07-18-2011, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

I am just implying that someone above Dusty may be forcing him to play certain players because of money owed/investment/draft pick/complete trashiness. Does he really want to play Renteria? Stubbs? Bailey? I'm not sure anyone does.

I think the exact opposite. I think they're forcing him to play Cozart and Heisey and he wants to insert all of these jokes instead b/c he's a players' manager and wants to see them succeed. He's too kindhearted to tell them that they suck, so he gives them a chance to go out and try to keep their careers alive.

Not trying to start an argument here. Just some good old baseball discussion.

Another loss for the Redlegs. Last 2 game win streak was June 15. I'm starting to think it's officially over for us.

chippewastud79 · 07-18-2011, 10:18 PM

12 days to the deadline, are the Reds going to be movers? If they stay with the team they have they are likely going to finish no better than third in this division (assuming the Pirates don't get better). I think the only team they can match up decent with is the Pirates, but all the rest of those series are in Pittsburgh. The Cards and Brewers are clearly better teams right now, even if they have the winning record against the Cards.

The best offense in baseball (Or atleast the Reds broadcast team would lead you to believe)??? Why does Sean Casey seem to be the only announcer that realizes this team is not as great as the rest of the team make them out to be?

Starscream · 07-18-2011, 10:22 PM

The best offensive team in baseball is a misleading stat, but the announcers (other than Marty) see it as we are on top. We can't score for three games, then on the fourth game we score 7-10 runs. Those few games inflate that stat and make us look a lot better than what they are.
Right now the biggest thing I'm worried about is hitting with risp. I wonder how many baserunners we've left on base this year. I'm willing to bet we lead in that category as well.

chippewastud79 · 07-18-2011, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

I think the exact opposite. I think they're forcing him to play Cozart and Heisey and he wants to insert all of these jokes instead b/c he's a players' manager and wants to see them succeed. He's too kindhearted to tell them that they suck, so he gives them a chance to go out and try to keep their careers alive.

Not trying to start an argument here. Just some good old baseball discussion.

Another loss for the Redlegs. Last 2 game win streak was June 15. I'm starting to think it's officially over for us.

Are you implying that Dusty is the Mike Brown of the Reds, allowing players to try to resurrect their careers in Cincinnati?

The problem is it seems like they (Dusty or someone higher up) are forcing young players down our throats that aren't good because they have no other options (Stubbs, Bruce when he is slumping, Bailey, Chapman, Volquez) and they are 'homegrown' because they don't want to be wrong. Where they have high priced older players, they are forced to play them because they 'owe' them (Rolen, Gomes, Renteria, Arroyo).

They need to be making moves at the deadline. I like Cozart, but their outfield talent is so sub par that they could change 2 of 3 of them for a huge upgrade. We'll see if they do anything.

Starscream · 07-18-2011, 10:47 PM

As long as they don't get rid of Bruce, Phillips, and Cueto, I don't care who we trade right now. Votto's gonna be gone after 2013 (I'm pretty sure), Stubbs sucks, Heisey and Cozart are too new to judge yet (so I could care less), Rolen's through, Gomes sucks, Lewis is nothing but a backup/bench player, Hernandez is gonna be gone this year too. Oh yeah, and FUGG Chapman and his $30 million. The jury's still out, but he looks like a bust right now.

Bruce is still working on things, but he's slowly improving, Phillips is the heart of this team, and Cueto is our ace.

Starscream · 07-18-2011, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

Are you implying that Dusty is the Mike Brown of the Reds, allowing players to try to resurrect their careers in Cincinnati?

Pretty much.

chippewastud79 · 07-19-2011, 09:01 PM

Stubbs sucks

0-4 2K's, 5 LOB and they lost 1-0. Would be nice to get some production out of the leadoff spot in a 1 run game

Tuxguy · 07-19-2011, 09:02 PM

Go BUcs!

chippewastud79 · 07-20-2011, 01:39 PM

The Reds jugernaut showed up today

Reds Win! Reds Win!

4th place

elderboy02 · 07-20-2011, 01:53 PM

I forgot they played today.

Reds win! Reds win!

chippewastud79 · 07-20-2011, 02:00 PM

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I forgot they played today.

Big fan, eh?

elderboy02 · 07-20-2011, 02:01 PM

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Big fan, eh?

Some people have jobs

Last night I heard that they played today, I just forgot to turn on the radio.

chippewastud79 · 07-20-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

Some people have jobs

I work 24-7-365 and take care of the little guy.

elderboy02 · 07-20-2011, 02:24 PM

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I work 24-7-365 and take care of the little guy.

Ahhhh.... a manny

Starscream · 07-20-2011, 11:14 PM

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I work 24-7-365 and take care of the little guy.

TMI!

Good news! I hear Atlanta has an interest in Gomes. I'd trade him for a bucket of balls and a new net for an L-frame.

elderboy02 · 07-21-2011, 05:11 AM

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TMI!

Good news! I hear Atlanta has an interest in Gomes. I'd trade him for a bucket of balls and a new net for an L-frame.

Yep. He was good last year, but this year he sucks.

07-17-2011, 09:37 PM	#2403
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Red's Fans Check in And another thing - Rolen needs to go. His shoulder is killing us right now. Let Cairo get some games in at third. You'd think I'd be more positive right now after the Reds won another series against the Cards, but we just looked bad in all three games. __________________ Insert quote here.

07-18-2011, 10:18 PM	#2406
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Red's Fans Check in 12 days to the deadline, are the Reds going to be movers? If they stay with the team they have they are likely going to finish no better than third in this division (assuming the Pirates don't get better). I think the only team they can match up decent with is the Pirates, but all the rest of those series are in Pittsburgh. The Cards and Brewers are clearly better teams right now, even if they have the winning record against the Cards. The best offense in baseball (Or atleast the Reds broadcast team would lead you to believe)??? Why does Sean Casey seem to be the only announcer that realizes this team is not as great as the rest of the team make them out to be? __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

07-18-2011, 10:22 PM	#2407
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Red's Fans Check in The best offensive team in baseball is a misleading stat, but the announcers (other than Marty) see it as we are on top. We can't score for three games, then on the fourth game we score 7-10 runs. Those few games inflate that stat and make us look a lot better than what they are. Right now the biggest thing I'm worried about is hitting with risp. I wonder how many baserunners we've left on base this year. I'm willing to bet we lead in that category as well. __________________ Insert quote here.

07-18-2011, 10:47 PM	#2409
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Red's Fans Check in As long as they don't get rid of Bruce, Phillips, and Cueto, I don't care who we trade right now. Votto's gonna be gone after 2013 (I'm pretty sure), Stubbs sucks, Heisey and Cozart are too new to judge yet (so I could care less), Rolen's through, Gomes sucks, Lewis is nothing but a backup/bench player, Hernandez is gonna be gone this year too. Oh yeah, and FUGG Chapman and his $30 million. The jury's still out, but he looks like a bust right now. Bruce is still working on things, but he's slowly improving, Phillips is the heart of this team, and Cueto is our ace. __________________ Insert quote here.

07-19-2011, 09:01 PM	#2411
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Stubbs sucks 0-4 2K's, 5 LOB and they lost 1-0. Would be nice to get some production out of the leadoff spot in a 1 run game __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

07-19-2011, 09:02 PM	#2412
Tuxguy Feeling at Home Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jason Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 752 Trading: (26)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Go BUcs!

07-20-2011, 01:39 PM	#2413
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Red's Fans Check in The Reds jugernaut showed up today Reds Win! Reds Win! 4th place __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

07-20-2011, 01:53 PM	#2414
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,508 Trading: (133)	Re: Red's Fans Check in I forgot they played today. Reds win! Reds win!