What are you roasting today? - Page 12

Mr B · 01-12-2012, 04:45 PM

I completely disagree. That looks like a good Full City +, maybe creeping toward Vienna.
Remember, roast how you like it. Nobody should tell you what cigars you should like and no one should tell you what roast you should like.

Enjoy it Blak.

Mr B · 01-12-2012, 04:47 PM

Remember Blak, the darker the roast, the longer you should let it rest. give that at least 3 days before trying. it may be better in 4-5 also.

ApexAZ · 01-12-2012, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth

I have no idea what I am ordering, haha. I just picked a couple of cool sounding names

Who wouldn't order Monkey Blend? Really!

I got some of that in my 4 lb sampler. It's next on my list once I exhaust the Gniess.

This raises a question for me. Should I expect a less uniform roast from the espresso blends? I noticed I have some variance in bean color; some darker, some lighter, etc. Is this due to the fact that it's a blend, or is it something I did wrong? I used a stovetop popper.

Mr B · 01-12-2012, 05:46 PM

There will be some variation on color. Sometimes 3-4 different beans in the blend. Different sizes also roast at different speeds. Wet Hulled / Dry Huled, this will all come into play while roasting.

BSB · 01-12-2012, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr B

I completely disagree. That looks like a good Full City +, maybe creeping toward Vienna.
Remember, roast how you like it. Nobody should tell you what cigars you should like and no one should tell you what roast you should like.

Enjoy it Blak.

But it sure doesn't hurt, when someone tries to guide you in the right direction.
The whole idea behind buying the high quality coffee, like we get from SM, is to fully experience what coffee has to offer. The darker you roast the coffee, the more the varietal flavors disappear and the roast flavors tend to dominate.
I suggest looking for Kenneth Davids' "Home Coffee Roasting, Romance & Revival" An excellent reference for the home coffee roaster.

Mr B · 01-12-2012, 06:26 PM

I hear ya.
Before I started roasting my own, I thought all I liked was French Roast. Now, all I drink is roasted to city + to Full City +. If I accidently go beyond that, lets say Vienna, I dont toss it out by any means. I either used it to blend with other lighter roasts or give it to someone who I know will enjoy that darker roast.

Its amazing to see how many people get basically converted from "all I like is French" to "Wow" that lighter roast is great".

But dont be afraid to brew up those darker roasts to see which beans can handle it better than others.
Sometimes you cant get those "chocolates" to come out until you reach that Full City / Full City+ or even Light Vienna ranges.

BSB · 01-12-2012, 07:57 PM

I roast almost evrything FC-FC+. I LOVE the chocolate flavors and you are right, you gotta go dark enough to get them.
When I said "too dark", I was speaking specificly to that coffee, the Bolivia Beneficio. I just roasted it last week to FC-FC+ and it wasn't what I expected. Went ahead and roasted another small batch to city-city+ and it hit the mark.

CigarSquid · 01-12-2012, 09:41 PM

I like them dark.. for now. I still have so much to learn it is overwhelming. I do not want to try light roast cuz I am scared I will not like them.

I do not understand this city+, full, vienna... I am so lost at this right now.

ApexAZ · 01-12-2012, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by garryyjr

I like them dark.. for now. I still have so much to learn it is overwhelming. I do not want to try light roast cuz I am scared I will not like them.

I do not understand this city+, full, vienna... I am so lost at this right now.

Sweet Marias has pretty good info that you should look at. They have an extensive library of information.

But basically, the city, city +, full city, full city +, light Vienna, Vienna, French, etc are all different degrees of roast in that order starting at first crack. Where I get confused is when each starts and ends. I know city roast is around first crack, but is it when first crack just begins, or when it ends?

CigarSquid · 01-12-2012, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth

Ordered some more beans today:
(1 Lb each)

El Salvador Finca La Montanita Bourbon
Espresso Monkey Blend
Moka Kadir Blend

Where did you order from? I really want to check out the monkey blend.

CigarSquid · 01-12-2012, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexAZ

Sweet Marias has pretty good info that you should look at. They have an extensive library of information.

But basically, the city, city +, full city, full city +, light Vienna, Vienna, French, etc are all different degrees of roast in that order starting at first crack. Where I get confused is when each starts and ends. I know city roast is around first crack, but is it when first crack just begins, or when it ends?

I have been trying to study this.

https://www.sweetmarias.com/library/...e-degree-roast

ApexAZ · 01-12-2012, 10:09 PM

If he's talking of the same monkey blend I just got, it comes from sweet Maria's.

ApexAZ · 01-12-2012, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr

I have been trying to study this.

https://www.sweetmarias.com/library/...e-degree-roast

Try this: http://www.sweetmarias.com/instructions.php#nutshell

Edit: I actually answered my own question by reading that again

CigarSquid · 01-12-2012, 10:13 PM

Oh, I like that.. I didn't get there yet. Thanks!

Blak Smyth · 01-13-2012, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr B

I completely disagree. That looks like a good Full City +, maybe creeping toward Vienna.
Remember, roast how you like it. Nobody should tell you what cigars you should like and no one should tell you what roast you should like.

Enjoy it Blak.

I think it did hit Vienna because there where a couple small fragments off the bean.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSB

But it sure doesn't hurt, when someone tries to guide you in the right direction.
The whole idea behind buying the high quality coffee, like we get from SM, is to fully experience what coffee has to offer. The darker you roast the coffee, the more the varietal flavors disappear and the roast flavors tend to dominate.
I suggest looking for Kenneth Davids' "Home Coffee Roasting, Romance & Revival" An excellent reference for the home coffee roaster.

I appreciate the tips. I will pay more attention to the recommended roast stages on the beans from now on. I just hate seeing the chaff inside the bean so I go darker. I will check Barnes and Nobles for that book this weekend.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexAZ

If he's talking of the same monkey blend I just got, it comes from sweet Maria's.

Yes that is the one

CigarSquid · 01-13-2012, 08:42 AM

What do you guys store your roasted beans in?

Blak Smyth · 01-13-2012, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by garryyjr

What do you guys store your roasted beans in?

That is a good question, I currently put them in freezer bags and put that inside of a Crown Royal bag to shield from the light.

Mr B · 01-13-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by garryyjr

What do you guys store your roasted beans in?

I only do small amounts (about enough to get me through the week) and I usually make 3-4 kinds so I can have a variety. I keep them in Zip-Lock bags inside of a small box to keep them from the light.

BSB · 01-13-2012, 10:31 AM

I use stainless steel canisters with the clamp down seal. Also, just before Christmas, I got some pretty cool de-gassing canisters from Sweet Maries. They are cheap, but seem to work well and cost under $5 each. Don't know if they still have them, but if they do, I recommend.

ApexAZ · 01-13-2012, 03:39 PM

I roasted the last of my SM Gneiss espresso blend. I used the remainder of the bag (about 11 oz) and I think it may have been a little too much.

I was shooting for Full City. I think I came close. Some Full City+/Light Vienna on some of it though. The blend makes it hard to get a uniform roast, or I'm still just learning. Maybe a little of both.

Would you say this is Full City? Sorry for the poor iPhone quality.

01-12-2012, 04:45 PM	#221
Mr B Livin' in a Van.... Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,233 Trading: (79)	Re: What are you roasting today? I completely disagree. That looks like a good Full City +, maybe creeping toward Vienna. Remember, roast how you like it. Nobody should tell you what cigars you should like and no one should tell you what roast you should like. Enjoy it Blak. __________________ And there came a voice to him: “Rise, Peter; kill and eat.” Acts 10:13

01-12-2012, 04:47 PM	#222
Mr B Livin' in a Van.... Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,233 Trading: (79)	Re: What are you roasting today? Remember Blak, the darker the roast, the longer you should let it rest. give that at least 3 days before trying. it may be better in 4-5 also. __________________ And there came a voice to him: “Rise, Peter; kill and eat.” Acts 10:13

01-12-2012, 05:46 PM	#224
Mr B Livin' in a Van.... Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,233 Trading: (79)	Re: What are you roasting today? There will be some variation on color. Sometimes 3-4 different beans in the blend. Different sizes also roast at different speeds. Wet Hulled / Dry Huled, this will all come into play while roasting. __________________ And there came a voice to him: “Rise, Peter; kill and eat.” Acts 10:13

01-12-2012, 06:26 PM	#226
Mr B Livin' in a Van.... Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,233 Trading: (79)	Re: What are you roasting today? I hear ya. Before I started roasting my own, I thought all I liked was French Roast. Now, all I drink is roasted to city + to Full City +. If I accidently go beyond that, lets say Vienna, I dont toss it out by any means. I either used it to blend with other lighter roasts or give it to someone who I know will enjoy that darker roast. Its amazing to see how many people get basically converted from "all I like is French" to "Wow" that lighter roast is great". But dont be afraid to brew up those darker roasts to see which beans can handle it better than others. Sometimes you cant get those "chocolates" to come out until you reach that Full City / Full City+ or even Light Vienna ranges. __________________ And there came a voice to him: “Rise, Peter; kill and eat.” Acts 10:13

01-12-2012, 07:57 PM	#227
BSB Feeling at Home Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Bob Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 897 Trading: (13)	Re: What are you roasting today? I roast almost evrything FC-FC+. I LOVE the chocolate flavors and you are right, you gotta go dark enough to get them. When I said "too dark", I was speaking specificly to that coffee, the Bolivia Beneficio. I just roasted it last week to FC-FC+ and it wasn't what I expected. Went ahead and roasted another small batch to city-city+ and it hit the mark. __________________ Ad majorem Dei gloriam!

01-12-2012, 09:41 PM	#228
CigarSquid AKA Garryyjr Join Date: Apr 2011 First Name: Garry Location: Medford, OR - Cigar Zombie Posts: 3,213 Trading: (39)	Re: What are you roasting today? I like them dark.. for now. I still have so much to learn it is overwhelming. I do not want to try light roast cuz I am scared I will not like them. I do not understand this city+, full, vienna... I am so lost at this right now. __________________ gaRRy

01-12-2012, 10:09 PM	#232
ApexAZ Wandering aimlessly Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Brian Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,299 Trading: (10)	Re: What are you roasting today? If he's talking of the same monkey blend I just got, it comes from sweet Maria's.

01-12-2012, 10:13 PM	#234
CigarSquid AKA Garryyjr Join Date: Apr 2011 First Name: Garry Location: Medford, OR - Cigar Zombie Posts: 3,213 Trading: (39)	Re: What are you roasting today? Oh, I like that.. I didn't get there yet. Thanks! __________________ gaRRy

01-13-2012, 08:42 AM	#236
CigarSquid AKA Garryyjr Join Date: Apr 2011 First Name: Garry Location: Medford, OR - Cigar Zombie Posts: 3,213 Trading: (39)	Re: What are you roasting today? What do you guys store your roasted beans in? __________________ gaRRy

01-13-2012, 10:31 AM	#239
BSB Feeling at Home Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Bob Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 897 Trading: (13)	Re: What are you roasting today? I use stainless steel canisters with the clamp down seal. Also, just before Christmas, I got some pretty cool de-gassing canisters from Sweet Maries. They are cheap, but seem to work well and cost under $5 each. Don't know if they still have them, but if they do, I recommend. __________________ Ad majorem Dei gloriam!

01-13-2012, 03:39 PM	#240
ApexAZ Wandering aimlessly Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Brian Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,299 Trading: (10)	Re: What are you roasting today? I roasted the last of my SM Gneiss espresso blend. I used the remainder of the bag (about 11 oz) and I think it may have been a little too much. I was shooting for Full City. I think I came close. Some Full City+/Light Vienna on some of it though. The blend makes it hard to get a uniform roast, or I'm still just learning. Maybe a little of both. Would you say this is Full City? Sorry for the poor iPhone quality.