2012 Fantasy Baseball For Stakes And The Troops

[shilala]

I just realized Outs is a pretty stupid category. It may as well be innings pitched.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by shilala

I just realized Outs is a pretty stupid category. It may as well be innings pitched.

Kind of like counting hits, then breaking up each individual kind of hit one could have into its own unique category?

Personally I'm not a fan of relief wins. We're rewarding mediocrity.

[shilala]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Kind of like counting hits, then breaking up each individual kind of hit one could have into its own unique category?

Personally I'm not a fan of relief wins. We're rewarding mediocrity.

The pitcher gets a point for every out that happens when he's on the field.
if he's out there for 7 innings, he gets 21 outs. 7 1/3, he gets 22 outs. It's just a pointless category, or at least directly mirrors IP.
At least with relief wins the guy generally holds the opponent's score while allowing his team to take the lead and win.
I didn't look at the box score for last night's game, but my pitcher gave up one run in 7 innings and didn't get the W. I'm guessing it was tied going into the 8th? I'm not sure who got the W, middle relief or the closer. The way W's are scored has always baffled me, anyways.

I suppose since we don't have an inninings pitched category, outs are just the same, and we needed something in there.
Strategically, a guy is taking a risk to try to win that category, so it's good.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by shilala

At least with relief wins the guy generally holds the opponent's score while allowing his team to take the lead and win.

I'd say more often than not a reliever blew a lead and his team bailed him out, thus preserving the win; or was already behind and his team rallied for the win and he just so happened to be the last pitcher on the mound.

Originally Posted by shilala

I didn't look at the box score for last night's game, but my pitcher gave up one run in 7 innings and didn't get the W. I'm guessing it was tied going into the 8th? I'm not sure who got the W, middle relief or the closer. The way W's are scored has always baffled me, anyways.

I believe the game went 11 innings, Scott. So even if he was losing when he was pulled (which he wasn't; I believe the game was tied at that point) he wouldn't have received the loss because he didn't surrender the winning run.

[Mattso3000]

Game was tied until the 11th with RBIs by Ackley and Ichiro in the top.

Tom Wilhemson got the W, Brandon League the S. Ackley also had a solo HR.

This was probably answered earlier but I don't see it...what are we doing with the 40 inning min week one? Site states that if we don't hit 40 innings, we forfeit all pitching categories but there are many teams that only play 3 games week one. The minimum may be tough to hit here.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Mattso3000

This was probably answered earlier but I don't see it...what are we doing with the 40 inning min week one? Site states that if we don't hit 40 innings, we forfeit all pitching categories but there are many teams that only play 3 games week one. The minimum may be tough to hit here.

This period goes until April 8th, Matt.

[Mattso3000]

Originally Posted by Stephen

This period goes until April 8th, Matt.

With the exception of Seattle and the Yankees (5 games) and Miami and St. Louis (4 games) all other major league teams play 3 games in the first scoring period. The 40 inning minimum is going to be a problem.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Mattso3000

With the exception of Seattle and the Yankees (5 games) and Miami and St. Louis (4 games) all other major league teams play 3 games in the first scoring period. The 40 inning minimum is going to be a problem.

Scott posted this the other day, Matt.

Originally Posted by shilala

There's a minimum number of innings (40) a team has to pitch or they forfeit their wins for the week. I always wondered if that means you'd lose all the stats from your pitchers, and it does not. It's just W's.
A guy could use all closer and middle relief and keep their era and whip down, win saves, and be in real good shape for the week if he didn't even pitch a starter, so I always wondered why that rule is even in place. But it is.

I'd reckon if a team went reliever heavy, they're not too concerned about the Wins category in the first place.

[Mattso3000]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Scott posted this the other day, Matt.

I'd reckon if a team went reliever heavy, they're not too concerned about the Wins category in the first place.

I knew I saw something on this earlier just couldn't find it. Thanks Stephen!

[mkarnold1]

How about FIP (fielding independant pitching)? Is that an option? I agree, I don't really like outs or relief wins as scoring categories. Holds can be considered if there are going to be middle relievers used a lot in this league. Just throwing out some other options.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by mkarnold1

How about FIP (fielding independant pitching)? Is that an option? I agree, I don't really like outs or relief wins as scoring categories. Holds can be considered if there are going to be middle relievers used a lot in this league. Just throwing out some other options.

Personally I would've liked to have seen holds over relief wins as a scoring category, but this is the way that the commish set it up. Further, since the league has already held the draft and the season started, probably wouldn't be right to go and switch around scoring categories.

So in short, let's burn Scott at the stake.

[JenksAnejo]

I agree that I don't like a few of the categories; however, I drafted according to what scoring categories were already in place. Like avoiding Strasburg because he will be on a IP limit.

[blugill]

I just drafted who everyone else wasn't drafting
I'm going to enjoy the season as it is, everyone is on a level playing field with the same categories

[shilala]

I will definately set up any categories others suggest, but it'll have to be next year.
Initially I thought I'd just go ahead and change them, but Jarrod made a very valid point. People took into consideration the categories when drafting.
Next year I'll set the scoring categories and ask for input. We had plenty of time that I could have changed anything, but no one raised a concern. I just basically picked the categories that I thought were sensible and would have liked to let a few pitching categories out altogether, but had to enter something.
I'll make sure to get an extra early start next year and email everyone who played, that way we can talk some of this stuff out and make the league extra awesome.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by shilala

I will definately set up any categories others suggest, but it'll have to be next year.
Initially I thought I'd just go ahead and change them, but Jarrod made a very valid point. People took into consideration the categories when drafting.

He's exactly right, too. If, for example you were to change relief wins to holds beforehand, I would've made it a point to draft a couple of the better middle relievers in the game. With the draft already taking place, the toothpaste is already out of the tube, so-to-speak.

Originally Posted by shilala

Next year I'll set the scoring categories and ask for input. We had plenty of time that I could have changed anything, but no one raised a concern. I just basically picked the categories that I thought were sensible and would have liked to let a few pitching categories out altogether, but had to enter something.
I'll make sure to get an extra early start next year and email everyone who played, that way we can talk some of this stuff out and make the league extra awesome.

Nah, there was plenty of time to raise concerns, Scott. If it'd bothered anyone enough they would've said something. At best our gripes are trivial. You done good, old man.

Now, if we could only do something about this daily lineup thing...

[JenksAnejo]

Scott you did a great job of setting this league up! I'm completely fine with everything you've done! This league will be a blast, and thank you for putting this together.

[mkarnold1]

Originally Posted by JenksAnejo

Scott you did a great job of setting this league up! I'm completely fine with everything you've done! This league will be a blast, and thank you for putting this together.

I agree, you did a great job Scott. I've never been in a league with this many scoring categories and I'm curious to see some of the unconventional strategies utilized to win some of these.

[Mattso3000]

Originally Posted by mkarnold1

I agree, you did a great job Scott. I've never been in a league with this many scoring categories and I'm curious to see some of the unconventional strategies utilized to win some of these.

Yep, great job with the league. I will really enjoy squashing mark like a bug.

[blugill]

What he said^^

[blugill]

I'd really like to see MLB make opening day a priority again. Open it on American soil, if you want to play overseas for a series or two that's great, just do it a few weeks after the season has started. I mean you play a real game and then come back for more spring training games?

Who's the genius that greenlighted that?! Likely they consulted with some of the Hollywood geniuses that greenlight half of the garbage remakes that show up in the theaters now.