Official MMA Thread - Page 11

goalie204 · 12-17-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken

Affliction is putting together good fights so they have a staying shot with the money that is backing them.

This is a very good card for the UFC and would say great if there were a couple of more interesting fights.

Did anyone notice who was on this card? Take a guess. Ryo Chonan . Who is he? He tapped Anderson Silva with 10sec left in their fight in Pride. It was a freakin' slick flying scissors takedown into a leg lock. There was noone more baffled than Silva.

That flying scissor kick leg lock was the greatest thing ever. Link for those who haven't seen it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb5B6xBZiX8

These days however, Chonan isn't that great in my opinion and won't do very well in the ufc if his last 2 fights are any kind of indication.

goalie204 · 12-17-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken

This is a very good card for the UFC and would say great if there were a couple of more interesting fights.
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There are several other interesting fights than the 3 you quoted me on, they just don't have the "big named superstars" as much as those 3. But they will still be great.

Ken · 12-17-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Chonan's last three fights have been very unispiring, imo.

Yeah, he really hasn't been stealing the show since then. I as well hope he can revive his fighting career.

My 3yr took a headbutt last night and ended up with a knot between the eyes and bloody nose. I take him to training every so often and I'll wrestle with him during breaks (since I don't need one

), but this time he didn't heed my warning about staying out of the way while there was activity on the mat. Oh well, I told him. Not his first busted nose and I am so positve it won't be the last.

NCRadioMan · 12-19-2008, 08:40 AM

More horrible MMA news:

Former Ultimate Fighting Championship and World Extreme Cagefighting middleweight Justin Levens and his wife were found dead on Wednesday from gunshot wounds in their Luguna Niguel, Calif. home, according to a report on TMZ.com.

Sources in the report say that the police are investigating the deaths as a possible murder/suicide.

Levens fought in numerous organizations over the past few years including the UFC, WEC and the IFL. The former Ruas Vale Tudo student was scheduled to compete on the first Affliction card in July of this year, but due to delays at the event, the fight was scrapped at the last minute. He later returned positive results for the drug Oxymorphone as part of his pre-fight drug testing and was subsequently fined $1,000 and suspended for six months, which would have run through Jan. 15, 2009.

Born in Philadelphia on April 18, 1980, Levens was 28 at the time of his death.

MMAWeekly.com will have more on this story as it becomes available.

Damn.

Ken · 12-26-2008, 11:57 AM

Forrest Griffin Vs. Rashad Evans - Hard fight to call, but I'll take Griffin breaking Evans' record.
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Vs. Frank Mir - Nog willl try to box & both have top skills on the ground, so I take Nog
CB Dollaway Vs. Mike Massenzio - No real reason, just do not care for "Mr. Excuses".
Wanderlei Silva Vs. Quinton Jackson - Once, Twice, Three times I knock your dog-chain-wearin' monster-truck-drinvin' ass out.
Cheick Kongo Vs. Mostapha Al Turk - Kongo has never showed anything on the ground, going to have problems staying at the feet. I do like Kongo so hopefully he pulls out a KO.
Yushin Okami Vs. Dean Lister - I didn't know Lister was 6'1", I thought more at 5'8".

BengalMan · 12-27-2008, 10:14 AM

I like your picks Ken and I agree, the Forrest and Rashad fight is a hard fight to call. Forrest is tough as nails, but Rashad lately has just been a beat on the ground and his striking is crazy. I think I'm going to take Rashad tonight. Mir is in the best shape of his life and is really ready for this fight, but I just think Nog is too damn good. Wandy is my all time favorite fighter and I think i'll take apart Rampage, earning him a title shot against the winner of Forrest and Rashad, which will be interesting considering Forrest is his training partner.

Ken · 12-27-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BengalMan

I like your picks Ken .

Yeah, I'm really not sure how Forrest will win. I guess I think he'll stay alive for the decision. Evans has looked impresssive and i've liked the guy, and with his wrestling he has the tools to put this fight away.

Mir has been looking good, in an athletic non-sexual way, and while I've never been a fan I'm starting to like watching his fights.

goalie204 · 12-27-2008, 05:11 PM

I hope rampage vs wandy is similar to their other 2 fights, with rampage eating a lot of knees in the face.

Ken · 12-27-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by goalie204

I hope rampage vs wandy is similar to their other 2 fights, with rampage eating a lot of knees in the face.

I'm not sure if he could like through that many knees again.

they were good fights, though, so lets hope.

Mikey202 · 12-27-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken

Cheick Kongo Vs. Mostapha Al Turk - Kongo has never showed anything on the ground, going to have problems staying at the feet. I do like Kongo so hopefully he pulls out a KO.

Someone call the cops!!!! Kongo tried to murder Al Turk

. Man, talk about a beat down.

goalie204 · 12-27-2008, 11:41 PM

good ufc

Ken · 12-28-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikey202

Someone call the cops!!!! Kongo tried to murder Al Turk

. Man, talk about a beat down.

How many times can I be wrong in one night?

So does Jackson get his a shot at the belt ahead of the winner of Machida and Silva?

Mir's standup is very much improved.

goalie204 · 12-28-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken

How many times can I be wrong in one night?

So does Jackson get his a shot at the belt ahead of the winner of Machida and Silva?

Mir's standup is very much improved.

Machida's last win was vs tito ortiz in a boring fight in May.
Silva lost and will probably have to redeem himself before a title shot, maybe by fighting Machida.

Possibly Rampage and Rashad next.

Mir looked amazing.

kgoings · 12-28-2008, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by goalie204

Machida's last win was vs tito ortiz in a boring fight in May.
Silva lost and will probably have to redeem himself before a title shot, maybe by fighting Machida.

Possibly Rampage and Rashad next.

Mir looked amazing.

Cant wait for Mir Lesner II! Mir's gameplan was perfect. Rashad is a beast.

BengalMan · 12-28-2008, 03:25 PM

Rampage vs. Rashad will be their next fight. Anyone else notice that he KO'ed Wandy the exact same way as he did to Chuck, just with his left.

Wolfslair is about to become THE CAMP to train at. With how good Bisping has done, how much improved Rampage's striking has come along and the pure murder that Kongo did to Al Turk.

On another note, Rashad proved once again he deserves to be undefeated at 205. He has hands down improved the most out of all the TUF'ers. His stand up is NICE.

Mir looked unreal. He completely dominated Nog, something I never thought would happen. I had a feeling Mir was going to come into this and do well, but never did I think he would completely own Big Nog.

This was hands down the best card of the year!

goalie204 · 12-28-2008, 03:33 PM

Mir's standup WAS phenomenal but one thing i've been thinking about since last night...Nog didn't seem to do much. He had very little offense, he just moved around and got hit. PLEASE UNDERSTAND, i don't want to take anything away from Frank, like i said, his stand up looked impressive, but perhaps big Nog could have neutralized it a little bit with some offense of his own. We might never know tho.

Ken · 12-29-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by goalie204

Machida's last win was vs tito ortiz in a boring fight in May.

Not much on Machida myself, though I believe there was indication that the winner would get a shot. But they both do need a bigger win.

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Rampage vs. Rashad will be their next fight.

This should be a good fight. Rashad has been dominating his fights and I'll pull for him in this one.

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Mir's standup WAS phenomenal but one thing i've been thinking about since last night...Nog didn't seem to do much.

You're not alone in wondering WTF Nog was or wasn't doing. The guy has good boxing and great ground skills, so where was it at.

Mir may be good/great and he may be the better fighter, but he made Nog look like an outmatched school boy. I'm not saying it was, but watching the fight the thought came to my head that he tanked the fight.

Mir Lesnar II, can't wait.

12-29-2008, 01:08 PM

First thought of the fights...where were the submissions?!? Geez, every fight was a TKO or knockout (and there were some dramatic knockouts!) but I was hoping for just one submission!

NCRadioMan · 12-29-2008, 03:53 PM

UFC 92 was a great card that didn't dissapoint me, at all. I was a little surprised that Rashad won like he did. Just a little. I like him alot but everytime I have counted Forrest out, he won. Nog's age and fights have caught up to him. He had nothing for Mir and Mir did look really good. Can't wait to see the re-match with Lesnar. Same with Wandy. I think all his tough fights have caught up with him. That was a hell of a left from Rampage. Hopefully he will not go on another "rampage". lol

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BengalMan · 12-29-2008, 06:37 PM

Going to be interesting to see if Bigfoot Silva will be able to fight in the states once again after ignoring the commission's suspension. Granted they don't technically apply over in Japan, the NSAC is notorious for taking it as a big F-U if you go to Japan and fight to avoid their suspensions.

12-19-2008, 08:40 AM	#204
NCRadioMan Chutney Lovebusciut Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chutney Location: On the shores of Loch Shiel Posts: 4,277 Trading: (66)	Re: Official MMA Thread More horrible MMA news: Former Ultimate Fighting Championship and World Extreme Cagefighting middleweight Justin Levens and his wife were found dead on Wednesday from gunshot wounds in their Luguna Niguel, Calif. home, according to a report on TMZ.com. Sources in the report say that the police are investigating the deaths as a possible murder/suicide. Levens fought in numerous organizations over the past few years including the UFC, WEC and the IFL. The former Ruas Vale Tudo student was scheduled to compete on the first Affliction card in July of this year, but due to delays at the event, the fight was scrapped at the last minute. He later returned positive results for the drug Oxymorphone as part of his pre-fight drug testing and was subsequently fined $1,000 and suspended for six months, which would have run through Jan. 15, 2009. Born in Philadelphia on April 18, 1980, Levens was 28 at the time of his death. MMAWeekly.com will have more on this story as it becomes available. Damn. __________________ The path to loyalty is trust.

12-26-2008, 11:57 AM	#205
Ken Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Albany, In Posts: 241 Trading: (0)	Re: Official MMA Thread Forrest Griffin Vs. Rashad Evans - Hard fight to call, but I'll take Griffin breaking Evans' record. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Vs. Frank Mir - Nog willl try to box & both have top skills on the ground, so I take Nog CB Dollaway Vs. Mike Massenzio - No real reason, just do not care for "Mr. Excuses". Wanderlei Silva Vs. Quinton Jackson - Once, Twice, Three times I knock your dog-chain-wearin' monster-truck-drinvin' ass out. Cheick Kongo Vs. Mostapha Al Turk - Kongo has never showed anything on the ground, going to have problems staying at the feet. I do like Kongo so hopefully he pulls out a KO. Yushin Okami Vs. Dean Lister - I didn't know Lister was 6'1", I thought more at 5'8".

12-27-2008, 10:14 AM	#206
BengalMan Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ian Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,280 Trading: (10)	Re: Official MMA Thread I like your picks Ken and I agree, the Forrest and Rashad fight is a hard fight to call. Forrest is tough as nails, but Rashad lately has just been a beat on the ground and his striking is crazy. I think I'm going to take Rashad tonight. Mir is in the best shape of his life and is really ready for this fight, but I just think Nog is too damn good. Wandy is my all time favorite fighter and I think i'll take apart Rampage, earning him a title shot against the winner of Forrest and Rashad, which will be interesting considering Forrest is his training partner.

12-27-2008, 05:11 PM	#208
goalie204 Have My Own Room Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Myles Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,659 Trading: (12)	Re: Official MMA Thread I hope rampage vs wandy is similar to their other 2 fights, with rampage eating a lot of knees in the face.

12-27-2008, 11:41 PM	#211
goalie204 Have My Own Room Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Myles Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,659 Trading: (12)	Re: Official MMA Thread good ufc

12-28-2008, 03:25 PM	#215
BengalMan Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ian Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,280 Trading: (10)	Re: Official MMA Thread Rampage vs. Rashad will be their next fight. Anyone else notice that he KO'ed Wandy the exact same way as he did to Chuck, just with his left. Wolfslair is about to become THE CAMP to train at. With how good Bisping has done, how much improved Rampage's striking has come along and the pure murder that Kongo did to Al Turk. On another note, Rashad proved once again he deserves to be undefeated at 205. He has hands down improved the most out of all the TUF'ers. His stand up is NICE. Mir looked unreal. He completely dominated Nog, something I never thought would happen. I had a feeling Mir was going to come into this and do well, but never did I think he would completely own Big Nog. This was hands down the best card of the year!

12-28-2008, 03:33 PM	#216
goalie204 Have My Own Room Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Myles Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,659 Trading: (12)	Re: Official MMA Thread Mir's standup WAS phenomenal but one thing i've been thinking about since last night...Nog didn't seem to do much. He had very little offense, he just moved around and got hit. PLEASE UNDERSTAND, i don't want to take anything away from Frank, like i said, his stand up looked impressive, but perhaps big Nog could have neutralized it a little bit with some offense of his own. We might never know tho.

12-29-2008, 01:08 PM	#218
LordOfWu Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Official MMA Thread First thought of the fights...where were the submissions?!? Geez, every fight was a TKO or knockout (and there were some dramatic knockouts!) but I was hoping for just one submission!

12-29-2008, 03:53 PM	#219
NCRadioMan Chutney Lovebusciut Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chutney Location: On the shores of Loch Shiel Posts: 4,277 Trading: (66)	Re: Official MMA Thread UFC 92 was a great card that didn't dissapoint me, at all. I was a little surprised that Rashad won like he did. Just a little. I like him alot but everytime I have counted Forrest out, he won. Nog's age and fights have caught up to him. He had nothing for Mir and Mir did look really good. Can't wait to see the re-match with Lesnar. Same with Wandy. I think all his tough fights have caught up with him. That was a hell of a left from Rampage. Hopefully he will not go on another "rampage". lol Next good MMA card is on New Year's Eve with K-1 Premium 2008 Dynamite Saitama Super Arena, Saitama, Japan Matchups: MMA Rules Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Kiyoshi Tamura Eddie Alvarez (No. 2 LW, No. 10 PFP) vs. Shinya Aoki (No. 4 LW) Joachim Hansen (No. 3 LW) vs. Gesias Cavalcante (No. 5 LW) Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic vs. Hong Man Choi Semmy Schilt vs. Siala Siliga Jerome LeBanner vs. Mark Hunt Hideo Tokoro vs. Daisuke Nakamura K-1 Rules Gegard Mousasi (No. 5 MW) vs. Musashi Tatsuya Kawajiri vs. Kozo Takeda Yoshihiro Sato vs. Artur Kyshenko K-1 King of Under 18 Tournament Hiroya vs. Shota Shimada Tatsuya Kusakabe vs. Koya Urabe Then a few days later, Sengoku 7 on the 4th! Saitama Super Arena, Saitama, Japan Matchups: Sengoku Middleweight Championship Kazuo Misaki vs. Jorge Santiago Sengoku Lightweight Championship Takanori Gomi vs. Satoru Kitaoka Hidehiko Yoshida vs. Sanae Kikuta Antonio Silva vs. Yoshihiro Nakao Sergey Golyaev vs. Eiji Mitsuoka Muhammed Lawal(King Mo) vs. Yukiya Naito Dave Herman vs. Mu Bae Choi Maximo Blanco vs. Seigo Inoue Hidetaka Irie vs. Minoru Kato __________________ The path to loyalty is trust.

12-29-2008, 06:37 PM	#220
BengalMan Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ian Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,280 Trading: (10)	Re: Official MMA Thread Going to be interesting to see if Bigfoot Silva will be able to fight in the states once again after ignoring the commission's suspension. Granted they don't technically apply over in Japan, the NSAC is notorious for taking it as a big F-U if you go to Japan and fight to avoid their suspensions.