Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 - Page 104

icehog3 · 06-10-2009, 05:37 PM

Did heavy military presses despite possible whiplash I got in last night's hockey game. Feel fine, but I made sure I kept super strict form.

zemekone · 06-10-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Did heavy military presses despite possible whiplash I got in last night's hockey game. Feel fine, but I made sure I kept super strict form.

i did heavy a$$ dumbell press, havent done them in a while, had a monster day! did 70lbs dumbells for 20!

pnoon · 06-10-2009, 10:01 PM

Nice review.

icehog3 · 06-11-2009, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

Nice review.

Go heavy or go home, Peter!

DPD6030 · 06-11-2009, 01:09 AM

I need to start working out. I hate doing it by myself though. I should since I'm a little guy and don't want to get my arse kicked while at work. I guess that's why I carry 50,00 volts.

icehog3 · 06-11-2009, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DPD6030

I need to start working out. I hate doing it by myself though. I should since I'm a little guy and don't want to get my arse kicked while at work. I guess that's why I carry 50,00 volts.

Don't tase me, Bro!

PeteSB75 · 06-11-2009, 08:53 AM

Tough workout this morning. Was tired going in and tired coming out. Power Cleans kill me some days and I love em others. Today was a killing day...

Squat
305x5
315x5 2 sets - tie PR

Power Clean
145x5 tie PR
145x3 - almost dropped 4th rep.
140x5

Bench
185x5 3 sets - tie PR

Got a 5k tonight, hope my knees hold up

icehog3 · 06-11-2009, 09:55 AM

Good luck in the race, Pete!

Off for another "scheduled off day" workout....I am gonna really have to take a day off sometime.

King James · 06-11-2009, 10:04 AM

Back/Bis for me today. Tuesday went alright, although on a few tricep lifts had pain in the elbow. Had to stop on skull crushers due to pain, but getting alot better.

icehog3 · 06-11-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by King James

Back/Bis for me today. Tuesday went alright, although on a few tricep lifts had pain in the elbow. Had to stop on skull crushers due to pain, but getting alot better.

Tweaked my elbow yesterday throwing up the dumbbells for militarys....sucks, Jimmy!

GreekGodX · 06-11-2009, 10:25 AM

Thought I would share I just started on Dogcrapp routine. I've been lifting seriously for the past 6 years. While before it was for sports, now I just want to get as big as possible. I've been doing high volume workouts for most of that time so I figured Dogcrapp would be the best suited for me. Anyone have experience using their methodologies? The founder of the method claims gains of up to 50 lbs of muscle in a year. Here's a site that has all the info on it. http://www.intensemuscle.com

DavenportESQ · 06-11-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GreekGodX

Thought I would share I just started on Dogcrapp routine. I've been lifting seriously for the past 6 years. While before it was for sports, now I just want to get as big as possible. I've been doing high volume workouts for most of that time so I figured Dogcrapp would be the best suited for me. Anyone have experience using their methodologies? The founder of the method claims gains of up to 50 lbs of muscle in a year. Here's a site that has all the info on it. http://www.intensemuscle.com

50 pounds of muscle a year? Is that the same program Barry Bonds was on?

I don't know much about them....but I will take a look..

I took a look and this isn't a new revolutionary idea. A lot of this has been around for years. I know you said your background is High Volume workouts so this would be a good fit. My only idea would be if your have been doing high volume for 6 years why not switch your routine to something different, more challenging and new? You would probably see bigger gains, and new changes because your forcing your body to change and adapt instead of just going through the grind?

Thats just me though

King James · 06-11-2009, 02:55 PM

I'm with Dave on changing up the routine. Always good to shock the system. I'm switching to a new one next week actually as I've been on this one for awhile now.

BigFrank · 06-11-2009, 03:07 PM

Gonna go with most here and tell you that 50lbs is total bullshit. Maybe 5 lbs. If your eating your balls off. Specially being natural.
I trained a similar style awhile ago. Only thing I would say is take special care of yourself. Make sure you are getting enough calories and using proper restoration techniques. I responded well to this type of program but after a few weeks my joints etc started getting banged up. Pushing it as hard as you can every week can be rough on your body. I'm not sure if they advocate any type of downtime or deloading but I would recommend. Even despite you experience training. Sometimes for guys that have been in the game a long time doing less and resting more does more than being in the gym everyday and wearing your back side out.

Just my

icehog3 · 06-11-2009, 03:11 PM

Agreed Frank, no way a person is going to put on 50 pounds of muscle in one year. 50 pounds of bodyweight, maybe, but if you could put on 10 pounds of pure muscle in one year I would call that highly successful, even unusual.

GreekGodX · 06-11-2009, 03:48 PM

I don't believe that it can be done without anabolic drugs. Going from 207 to 257 in a year would be a huge adjustment and that to me would be too much. If I could get to 220 that would be great. For as long as my legs don't get any bigger that would be a bonus.

There is a period that you are doing all out lifts and then a period when you back off. Basically once you aren't making any more gains you back off.

I'm finishing the first week of the workouts and it definitely has tired me out. I've needed more sleep and needed to eat more. I'm gonna take some anthropometric measurements so I can track my progress.

PeteSB75 · 06-11-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Agreed Frank, no way a person is going to put on 50 pounds of muscle in one year. 50 pounds of bodyweight, maybe, but if you could put on 10 pounds of pure muscle in one year I would call that highly successful, even unusual.

I put on about 10lbs of muscle in the first six months I was lifting, ever. That is the only time I would ever expect to see that amount of gains.

icehog3 · 06-11-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75

I put on about 10lbs of muscle in the first six months I was lifting, ever. That is the only time I would ever expect to see that amount of gains.

Agreed, Pete.

Starscream · 06-11-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Agreed, Pete.

So can I (being new to the gym) expect to lose fat, but not much weight if I am dieting right now?

GreekGodX · 06-11-2009, 11:07 PM

Well I'm 22 years old so I don't think gaining 13 pounds of muscle to 220lbs would be out of reach, in one year time. All this talk is just motivation

06-10-2009, 05:37 PM	#2061
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,287 Trading: (60)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Did heavy military presses despite possible whiplash I got in last night's hockey game. Feel fine, but I made sure I kept super strict form. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

06-10-2009, 10:01 PM	#2063
pnoon YNWA Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Peter Location: San Diego Posts: 29,919 Trading: (20)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Nice review. __________________ Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are. -John Wooden

06-11-2009, 01:09 AM	#2065
DPD6030 Shepard of the sheeple Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (151)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 I need to start working out. I hate doing it by myself though. I should since I'm a little guy and don't want to get my arse kicked while at work. I guess that's why I carry 50,00 volts.

06-11-2009, 08:53 AM	#2067
PeteSB75 Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: CT Posts: 1,674 Trading: (18)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Tough workout this morning. Was tired going in and tired coming out. Power Cleans kill me some days and I love em others. Today was a killing day... Squat 305x5 315x5 2 sets - tie PR Power Clean 145x5 tie PR 145x3 - almost dropped 4th rep. 140x5 Bench 185x5 3 sets - tie PR Got a 5k tonight, hope my knees hold up __________________ Formerly Malik23

06-11-2009, 09:55 AM	#2068
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,287 Trading: (60)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Good luck in the race, Pete! Off for another "scheduled off day" workout....I am gonna really have to take a day off sometime. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

06-11-2009, 10:04 AM	#2069
King James Regard Me! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jim Location: Dark Side Of The Moon Posts: 2,565 Trading: (2)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Back/Bis for me today. Tuesday went alright, although on a few tricep lifts had pain in the elbow. Had to stop on skull crushers due to pain, but getting alot better. __________________ Mob Herfin' Since 2006

06-11-2009, 10:25 AM	#2071
GreekGodX Opa!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Christos Location: 7 Line Posts: 4,893 Trading: (82)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Thought I would share I just started on Dogcrapp routine. I've been lifting seriously for the past 6 years. While before it was for sports, now I just want to get as big as possible. I've been doing high volume workouts for most of that time so I figured Dogcrapp would be the best suited for me. Anyone have experience using their methodologies? The founder of the method claims gains of up to 50 lbs of muscle in a year. Here's a site that has all the info on it. http://www.intensemuscle.com __________________ "If I give a businessman 10,000 francs, what is that to him, he is rich. But if I give him a Cohiba cigar, that is style."-Hotel Rwanda

06-11-2009, 02:55 PM	#2073
King James Regard Me! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jim Location: Dark Side Of The Moon Posts: 2,565 Trading: (2)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 I'm with Dave on changing up the routine. Always good to shock the system. I'm switching to a new one next week actually as I've been on this one for awhile now. __________________ Mob Herfin' Since 2006

06-11-2009, 03:07 PM	#2074
BigFrank 5 3 1 Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Gym or Sofa. Posts: 1,896 Trading: (25)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Gonna go with most here and tell you that 50lbs is total bullshit. Maybe 5 lbs. If your eating your balls off. Specially being natural. I trained a similar style awhile ago. Only thing I would say is take special care of yourself. Make sure you are getting enough calories and using proper restoration techniques. I responded well to this type of program but after a few weeks my joints etc started getting banged up. Pushing it as hard as you can every week can be rough on your body. I'm not sure if they advocate any type of downtime or deloading but I would recommend. Even despite you experience training. Sometimes for guys that have been in the game a long time doing less and resting more does more than being in the gym everyday and wearing your back side out. Just my __________________ " Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. "

06-11-2009, 03:11 PM	#2075
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,287 Trading: (60)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Agreed Frank, no way a person is going to put on 50 pounds of muscle in one year. 50 pounds of bodyweight, maybe, but if you could put on 10 pounds of pure muscle in one year I would call that highly successful, even unusual. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

06-11-2009, 03:48 PM	#2076
GreekGodX Opa!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Christos Location: 7 Line Posts: 4,893 Trading: (82)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 I don't believe that it can be done without anabolic drugs. Going from 207 to 257 in a year would be a huge adjustment and that to me would be too much. If I could get to 220 that would be great. For as long as my legs don't get any bigger that would be a bonus. There is a period that you are doing all out lifts and then a period when you back off. Basically once you aren't making any more gains you back off. I'm finishing the first week of the workouts and it definitely has tired me out. I've needed more sleep and needed to eat more. I'm gonna take some anthropometric measurements so I can track my progress. __________________ "If I give a businessman 10,000 francs, what is that to him, he is rich. But if I give him a Cohiba cigar, that is style."-Hotel Rwanda

06-11-2009, 11:07 PM	#2080
GreekGodX Opa!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Christos Location: 7 Line Posts: 4,893 Trading: (82)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Well I'm 22 years old so I don't think gaining 13 pounds of muscle to 220lbs would be out of reach, in one year time. All this talk is just motivation __________________ "If I give a businessman 10,000 francs, what is that to him, he is rich. But if I give him a Cohiba cigar, that is style."-Hotel Rwanda