Red's Fans Check in - Page 103

Starscream · 05-21-2011, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

Umm no.

Isn't that what happens to people we trade away?

All our pitchers wind up winning when they leave Cincy.

chippewastud79 · 05-21-2011, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

Isn't that what happens to people we trade away?

All our pitchers wind up winning when they leave Cincy.

Because Cincinnati couldn't win. If you go to a better team, by default you will get more wins. Cincinnati hasn't had a Halladay or a similar shut down pitcher. Cincinnati has pretty weak rotations in general, 3 (almost 4) of their starters would be fourth or fifth in most rotations. With the run support the pitching staff has got of late, it would be tough for most pitchers to win. Dusty also has a problem of leaving pitchers in too long and using bad pitchers out of the bullpen and they have already worn Chapman out (so much for the future starter/closer role).

Not so much with subpar position players. Hamilton was phenomenal when he was here, they had no vision. Stubbs and Gomes combined < Hamilton.

chippewastud79 · 05-21-2011, 08:22 PM

Sounds like Alonso is ready to go, this clears the way for the trade.
Gomes, Stubbs and Renteria, with a nice Double-A middle reliever.
Heisey to CF, Alonso to LF, Reyes to SS and lead-off, Janish plays back up to 3 of 4 IF positions. You upgrade two positions and get two better bats, one at leadoff.
Renteria gets put on assignment when he shows up and they have two sub par outfielders.

Are you reading this Walt?

Starscream · 05-22-2011, 08:38 AM

I'm down with that. Alonso looks good. Hope he isn't a bust when he gets here, though.

chippewastud79 · 05-22-2011, 03:16 PM

Reds Ugh

Drew Stubbs 1 for 5! MVP! MVP! Nothing like a base hit in the bottom of the ninth when it means nothing. He did make it to 50 strikeouts today!

chippewastud79 · 05-22-2011, 03:20 PM

Can someone explain why Volquez is still the #1 starter? Dan, you are a homer, do explain.

Starscream · 05-22-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

Can someone explain why Volquez is still the #1 starter? Dan, you are a homer, do explain.

Arroyo should be the #1 right now. I haven't given up on EV though. He's been light's out as of late after the first inning until today.

Today's game was an embarrassment. Only true offensive players right now are Phillips and Hernandez. Even Votto is below .300 as of late. He's been in a slump now for a couple of weeks.

chippewastud79 · 05-22-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

Arroyo should be the #1 right now. I haven't given up on EV though. He's been light's out as of late after the first inning until today.

Today's game was an embarrassment. Only true offensive players right now are Phillips and Hernandez. Even Votto is below .300 as of late. He's been in a slump now for a couple of weeks.

Dusty needs to shake up this lineup, put someone in front of Votto who can get on base. Put Stubbs down to 8th and let him try to get on base for the pitcher to get bunted over. He hasn't been on base for Votto but one time during this recent run. Votto has struggled because he has to swing for the fences to have an effect on the game.

Starscream · 05-22-2011, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

Dusty needs to shake up this lineup, put someone in front of Votto who can get on base. Put Stubbs down to 8th and let him try to get on base for the pitcher to get bunted over. He hasn't been on base for Votto but one time during this recent run. Votto has struggled because he has to swing for the fences to have an effect on the game.

With Phillips and Rolen behind him?

elderboy02 · 05-22-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

With Phillips and Rolen behind him?

Remember, Adam thinks the only good player for the reds is Votto...

Starscream · 05-22-2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

Remember, Adam thinks the only good player for the reds is Votto...

And Votto's struggling right now. Phillips is the better player this month.

chippewastud79 · 05-22-2011, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

Remember, Adam thinks the only good player for the reds is Votto...

Remember, Dan thinks that Stubbs is a future HOF'er and Bruce is the future MVP.

I like Phillips, he and Votto are about the only players who come to play every day, as I have said before.

Votto has had little opportunity to drive in runners with empty bases. Put some runners on for him and allow him to play baseball. Phillips is doing better because he is essentially a leadoff hitter for the second inning.

Starscream · 05-23-2011, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

Remember, Dan thinks that Stubbs is a future HOF'er and Bruce is the future MVP.

I like Phillips, he and Votto are about the only players who come to play every day, as I have said before.

Votto has had little opportunity to drive in runners with empty bases. Put some runners on for him and allow him to play baseball. Phillips is doing better because he is essentially a leadoff hitter for the second inning.

Phillips, Votto, Hernandez, Hanigan, Rolen(?), Arroyo, and Cueto are the only ones who haven't looked horrible at this point. Hanigan can't hit, but he has decent at-bats and he calls a helluva game. Rolen and Cueto have been on the DL already too much, and Hernandez only gets limited field time. He should have been the DH every game in Cleveland. Hanigan behind the plate and Hernandez as DH.

Starscream · 05-23-2011, 03:32 PM

Maloney and Frazier called up. Volquez and Smith sent down. Danny R Herrera has been DFA.

elderboy02 · 05-23-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

Maloney and Frazier called up. Volquez and Smith sent down. Danny R Herrera has been DFA.

We should have made Gomes DFA.

Starscream · 05-23-2011, 08:01 PM

And we should have left Maloney down in Louisville. Id take Willis over this clown, but Willis is hurt and probably about to go on the DL.

Starscream · 05-23-2011, 08:58 PM

Piss poor pathetic. 6 straight.

chippewastud79 · 05-23-2011, 09:14 PM

Drew Stubbs 0'fer, 3K's. MVP! MVP!

Man the Reds play a decent team or two and they can't come close to competing. Playoff rematch, my ass. They didn't even belong on the diamond with them. Below .500 against teams with a winning record, heck they have only played 11 games against winning teams and they stink up the joint.

Starscream · 05-23-2011, 09:36 PM

Agreed.

elderboy02 · 05-23-2011, 09:37 PM

We suck right now

We will turn it around soon.

05-21-2011, 08:22 PM	#2043
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Sounds like Alonso is ready to go, this clears the way for the trade. Gomes, Stubbs and Renteria, with a nice Double-A middle reliever. Heisey to CF, Alonso to LF, Reyes to SS and lead-off, Janish plays back up to 3 of 4 IF positions. You upgrade two positions and get two better bats, one at leadoff. Renteria gets put on assignment when he shows up and they have two sub par outfielders. Are you reading this Walt? __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times. Last edited by chippewastud79; 05-21-2011 at 08:31 PM.

05-22-2011, 08:38 AM	#2044
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Red's Fans Check in I'm down with that. Alonso looks good. Hope he isn't a bust when he gets here, though. __________________ Insert quote here.

05-22-2011, 03:16 PM	#2045
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Reds Ugh Drew Stubbs 1 for 5! MVP! MVP! Nothing like a base hit in the bottom of the ninth when it means nothing. He did make it to 50 strikeouts today! __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

05-22-2011, 03:20 PM	#2046
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Can someone explain why Volquez is still the #1 starter? Dan, you are a homer, do explain. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

05-23-2011, 03:32 PM	#2054
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Maloney and Frazier called up. Volquez and Smith sent down. Danny R Herrera has been DFA. __________________ Insert quote here.

05-23-2011, 08:01 PM	#2056
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Red's Fans Check in And we should have left Maloney down in Louisville. Id take Willis over this clown, but Willis is hurt and probably about to go on the DL. __________________ Insert quote here.

05-23-2011, 08:58 PM	#2057
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Piss poor pathetic. 6 straight. __________________ Insert quote here.

05-23-2011, 09:14 PM	#2058
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Drew Stubbs 0'fer, 3K's. MVP! MVP! Man the Reds play a decent team or two and they can't come close to competing. Playoff rematch, my ass. They didn't even belong on the diamond with them. Below .500 against teams with a winning record, heck they have only played 11 games against winning teams and they stink up the joint. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

05-23-2011, 09:36 PM	#2059
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Agreed. __________________ Insert quote here.

05-23-2011, 09:37 PM	#2060
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,509 Trading: (133)	Re: Red's Fans Check in We suck right now We will turn it around soon.