Red's Fans Check in - Page 102

icehog3 · 05-19-2011, 02:14 PM

Cubs fans feel your pain, Pirates have had their number the last couple seasons.

Starscream · 05-19-2011, 06:38 PM

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Cubs fans feel your pain, Pirates have had their number the last couple seasons.

Thanks, Admiral... I think.

Starscream · 05-20-2011, 10:51 AM

Another tough series this weekend.

Let's see how many times we can get Gomes to be in the lineup in this series.

chippewastud79 · 05-20-2011, 11:14 AM

Since the Reds are stinking it up lately, I checked in on my buddy from CMU, Josh Collmenter picked up his second win of the season yesterday. Looks like the Reds could use him in their rotation.

chippewastud79 · 05-20-2011, 04:18 PM

Gomes as the DH? Seriously?

elderboy02 · 05-20-2011, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

Gomes as the DH? Seriously?

Weaksauce

Starscream · 05-20-2011, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

Gomes as the DH? Seriously?

I told ya.

Let's see how many time we can get him into the lineup this series.

I'd rather take my chances with the pitcher than Gomes hitting in that spot.

Question: Can the AL use the pitcher in the DH spot or is that not legal?

chippewastud79 · 05-20-2011, 08:57 PM

Stubbs and Gomes, 0'fer 8 in front of the reigning MVP

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Originally Posted by Starscream

I told ya.

Let's see how many time we can get him into the lineup this series.

I'd rather take my chances with the pitcher than Gomes hitting in that spot.

Question: Can the AL use the pitcher in the DH spot or is that not legal?

Yes.

elderboy02 · 05-21-2011, 06:36 AM

I have always thought Dusty was an idiot for his theory of "play the guys, they will hit their way out of their slump" Gomes should be sitting or released

chippewastud79 · 05-21-2011, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

I have always thought Dusty was an idiot for his theory of "play the guys, they will hit their way out of their slump" Gomes should be sitting or released

Must be fuming about Stubbs and Bruce being allowed to hit out of their slumps then. Remember around this time last year Stubbs was well below the Mendoza line.

chippewastud79 · 05-21-2011, 08:55 AM

For those of you not sold on needing an upgrade at SS:

Reds SS vs SS production of other ML teams
.237 BA (21st)
.293 OBP (20th)
.571 OPS (27th)
Total errors from SS: 8 (24th)
Fielding % (24th)

Edgar Renteria 2 for last 29
Paul Janish 1 for last 22
Combined: 3 for last 51

Starscream · 05-21-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

For those of you not sold on needing an upgrade at SS:

Reds SS vs SS production of other ML teams
.237 BA (21st)
.293 OBP (20th)
.571 OPS (27th)
Total errors from SS: 8 (24th)
Fielding % (24th)

Edgar Renteria 2 for last 29
Paul Janish 1 for last 22
Combined: 3 for last 51

I wouldn't mind seeing an upgrade there, but I still want that power option for LF that we've been promised since we got rid of Whiffey and Dunng.

chippewastud79 · 05-21-2011, 01:29 PM

Unfortunately, with the exception of batting average, SS appears to be more of an issue.

Reds LF vs LF production of other ML teams
.194 BA (28th)
.308 OBP (15th)
.696 OPS (14th)
9 HR (3rd)
25 RBI (10th)

Starscream · 05-21-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

Unfortunately, with the exception of batting average, SS appears to be more of an issue.

Reds LF vs LF production of other ML teams
.194 BA (28th)
.308 OBP (15th)
.696 OPS (14th)
9 HR (3rd)
25 RBI (10th)

I don't agree with that assessment of matching up LF production vs other LF production. We have two spots that are weak offensively. A pick up at either would be great, but I would want the upgrade at the spot that is the weakest defensively which is LF IMHO. Janish can't hit, but he's a great defensive SS. He has had three errors this season, but that's not outrageous. Renteria is the problem there with five errors while playing a lot less than Janish.

chippewastud79 · 05-21-2011, 01:47 PM

I'm willing to include Gomes with Stubbs in the trade for Reyes, heck both their averages combined are about Reyes'. Not sure why he is still an everyday player, but everyone backs Stubbs and Bruce when they are in similar slumps.

Obviously they need offensive help more than defensive right now. The Indians gave up 4 essentially unearned runs last night and the Reds still lost, two of the errors led to all 4 runs. They are also slowing down on run production severely recently. They still can't hit average to above-average pitching.

elderboy02 · 05-21-2011, 02:11 PM

You gotta love the passion that Votto has. He gets so mad if he screws up. My boy Stubbs got a lead off single. Gomes does what he always does. Votto then grounds into double play and he was extremely upset with himself.

Starscream · 05-21-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

I'm willing to include Gomes with Stubbs in the trade for Reyes, heck both their averages combined are about Reyes'. Not sure why he is still an everyday player, but everyone backs Stubbs and Bruce when they are in similar slumps.

Obviously they need offensive help more than defensive right now. The Indians gave up 4 essentially unearned runs last night and the Reds still lost, two of the errors led to all 4 runs. They are also slowing down on run production severely recently. They still can't hit average to above-average pitching.

We have some obvious holes in the offense, but the FO is not gonna upgrade two spots (probably won't upgrade at all, but it's good discussion), so I still say find that good bat in LF.
Stubbs has come up a bit of late, but I'd make that trade in order to get Reyes right now. The bad thing is, if we were to get rid of him, he would turn into the next Josh Hamilton.

icehog3 · 05-21-2011, 04:07 PM

Look at the bright side, Guys....at least you're not Cubs fans.

chippewastud79 · 05-21-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

You gotta love the passion that Votto has. He gets so mad if he screws up. My boy Stubbs got a lead off single. Gomes does what he always does. Votto then grounds into double play and he was extremely upset with himself.

Stubbs gets on base one time!

.250 OBP! MVP! MVP!

Its too bad that Votto and Philips seem to be the only two that want to play most days. Votto is a pasionate player, he plays hard and I like it, he doesn't have much in front of him right now. He was probably mad because there was actually a base runner on for him today. In two days 1 for 16 out of Stubbs and Gomes in front of Votto, I'd be pissed too. Not like Stubbs who gets a fly ball caught and gets pissed because he swung at a bad pitch, I don't know why he expects to get on base as bad as he plays some days.

chippewastud79 · 05-21-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

We have some obvious holes in the offense, but the FO is not gonna upgrade two spots (probably won't upgrade at all, but it's good discussion), so I still say find that good bat in LF.
Stubbs has come up a bit of late, but I'd make that trade in order to get Reyes right now. The bad thing is, if we were to get rid of him, he would turn into the next Josh Hamilton.

Umm no.

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chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Since the Reds are stinking it up lately, I checked in on my buddy from CMU, Josh Collmenter picked up his second win of the season yesterday. Looks like the Reds could use him in their rotation. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

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chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Gomes as the DH? Seriously? __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

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elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,508 Trading: (133)	Re: Red's Fans Check in I have always thought Dusty was an idiot for his theory of "play the guys, they will hit their way out of their slump" Gomes should be sitting or released

05-21-2011, 08:55 AM	#2031
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Red's Fans Check in For those of you not sold on needing an upgrade at SS: Reds SS vs SS production of other ML teams .237 BA (21st) .293 OBP (20th) .571 OPS (27th) Total errors from SS: 8 (24th) Fielding % (24th) Edgar Renteria 2 for last 29 Paul Janish 1 for last 22 Combined: 3 for last 51 __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

05-21-2011, 01:29 PM	#2033
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Unfortunately, with the exception of batting average, SS appears to be more of an issue. Reds LF vs LF production of other ML teams .194 BA (28th) .308 OBP (15th) .696 OPS (14th) 9 HR (3rd) 25 RBI (10th) __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

05-21-2011, 01:47 PM	#2035
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Red's Fans Check in I'm willing to include Gomes with Stubbs in the trade for Reyes, heck both their averages combined are about Reyes'. Not sure why he is still an everyday player, but everyone backs Stubbs and Bruce when they are in similar slumps. Obviously they need offensive help more than defensive right now. The Indians gave up 4 essentially unearned runs last night and the Reds still lost, two of the errors led to all 4 runs. They are also slowing down on run production severely recently. They still can't hit average to above-average pitching. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

05-21-2011, 02:11 PM	#2036
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,508 Trading: (133)	Re: Red's Fans Check in You gotta love the passion that Votto has. He gets so mad if he screws up. My boy Stubbs got a lead off single. Gomes does what he always does. Votto then grounds into double play and he was extremely upset with himself.

05-21-2011, 04:07 PM	#2038
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,257 Trading: (60)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Look at the bright side, Guys....at least you're not Cubs fans. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!