Patriots Fans - Page 12

Humpdebump · 04-22-2011, 04:27 PM

Bledsoe will always be my favorite Pats player. As many said, this franchise was a joke before he came here. Granted, Parcells had a lot to do with it too. He might not have been a mobile qb but man coul he sling the ball. He gets too much crap for not being able to move around but I could think of a bunch of others that were exactly like that but people praise them. Imagine if Parcells chose Mirrer

mosesbotbol · 04-20-2011, 05:49 AM

Is there going to be football this season?

taltos · 04-20-2011, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Is there going to be football this season?

I have a feeling that there will be a settlement. Both sides have too much to lose if the season is cancelled.

mosesbotbol · 04-20-2011, 06:54 AM

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I have a feeling that there will be a settlement. Both sides have too much to lose if the season is cancelled.

I don't think the owners want to open their books and that is a big contention issue. It will show how poorly managed many teams are and how the owners have been "stealing" off the top.

I think the other issues can be worked out.

chachee52 · 04-20-2011, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Is there going to be football this season?

The CFL starts June 30th!! It's an option

jesseboston81 · 04-20-2011, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by chachee52

The CFL starts June 30th!! It's an option

fhrblig · 07-28-2011, 08:18 AM

Uh, did the Patriots really just trade for Albert Haynesworth?

I can hear the talking heads now, "if anyone can whip him into shape it's Belichick." Honestly, I think it's a LOT more likely that NO ONE can whip Haynesworth into shape. I heard them say the same thing about Shanahan and look how well that worked out. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong, but I think it ain't gonna happen.

(In the interest of full disclosure, I'm not a Pats fan.)

kaisersozei · 07-28-2011, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fhrblig

Uh, did the Patriots really just trade for Albert Haynesworth?

I can hear the talking heads now, "if anyone can whip him into shape it's Belichick." Honestly, I think it's a LOT more likely that NO ONE can whip Haynesworth into shape. I heard them say the same thing about Shanahan and look how well that worked out. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong, but I think it ain't gonna happen.

(In the interest of full disclosure, I'm not a Pats fan.)

As a Redskins fan, all I can say is:

07-28-2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by fhrblig

Uh, did the Patriots really just trade for Albert Haynesworth?

I can hear the talking heads now, "if anyone can whip him into shape it's Belichick." Honestly, I think it's a LOT more likely that NO ONE can whip Haynesworth into shape. I heard them say the same thing about Shanahan and look how well that worked out. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong, but I think it ain't gonna happen.

(In the interest of full disclosure, I'm not a Pats fan.)

I have a feeling he'll play for Belichick. Two big examples of "malcontents" that thrived with the Pats...Corey Dillon and Randy Moss. Playing for a coach who truly KNOWS how to win can make a player change some habits and buy into a system. shanahan won on the coattails of John Elway and Terrell Davis. He hasn't done anything in Wash, and after Elway was gone, he didn't do much in Denver.

I think he might have looked better in Purple, playing next to Kevin Williams, though.

fhrblig · 07-28-2011, 09:17 AM

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I have a feeling he'll play for Belichick. Two big examples of "malcontents" that thrived with the Pats...Corey Dillon and Randy Moss. Playing for a coach who truly KNOWS how to win can make a player change some habits and buy into a system. shanahan won on the coattails of John Elway and Terrell Davis. He hasn't done anything in Wash, and after Elway was gone, he didn't do much in Denver.

I think he might have looked better in Purple, playing next to Kevin Williams, though.

I thought he'd play for Shanahan. That's all I'm sayin'. Admittedly, Shanahan has seemed to veer toward 'crazy old man' town lately...

massphatness · 07-28-2011, 09:29 AM

The Pats generally run a base 3-4, and my guess is they use Haynesworth only when they flex to their 4-3 package.

Bruins Fan · 07-28-2011, 10:12 AM

Clear the streets, and lock up your women

Bruins Fan · 07-28-2011, 06:45 PM

Ochocinco,what the hell is going on in Foxboro?
I always liked him but his skills are greatly diminished.
At least he is a fun guy to have around,I don't think his clown act will fly?

VTDragon · 07-29-2011, 10:31 AM

Ochocinco - good move -- yes his skills are diminished, but he can still get open, he's not afraid to go over the middle, (ala Randy Moss), he plays every down, he's a good club house guy and he'll be lots of fun. Plus he didn't cost much.
Hainsworth, I don't know... He is one screwed up dude. IF Belicheck can get him to play and be a solid citizen off the field the Pats will have made the deal of the year -when he wants to be this guy is a pass rushing monster. If not, he will be cut and the Pats have not really lost anything except some wasted time in practice.
Ain't it great to have football to discuss again.

chippewastud79 · 07-29-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by VTDragon

Ochocinco - good move -- yes his skills are diminished, but he can still get open, he's not afraid to go over the middle, (ala Randy Moss), he plays every down, he's a good club house guy and he'll be lots of fun. Plus he didn't cost much.

All those three are laughable. He hates running across the middle, runs some of the worst routes in the NFL and takes plays off all the time. Lest you forget he is a 'look at me' guy, not exactly a good guy in the locker room with their current regime.

mosesbotbol · 07-29-2011, 10:56 AM

I have big expectation of 85. The whole world is watching and he's getting to play with the best. This could be his last & best opportunity to show the world he can be that good.

chachee52 · 07-29-2011, 03:33 PM

This is just like Christmas in July. I think that every year should be like this last week!!!
So, Banta-Cann=gone, Crumple=gone, and Ty Warren=gone? WOW, This is getting crazy!!! I can see Crumple, Banta-Cann.... ok he's getting up there (although I just love saying his name when he makes a play!!) but Warren? Never say him just to get cut!! Why in the world wouldn't we go after someone for him instead of just cutting him? He's going to be missed, do we really think that Haynsworth is going to step it up that much?

Tio Gato · 07-29-2011, 07:43 PM

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WOW, This is getting crazy!!! I can see Crumple, Banta-Cann.... ok he's getting up there (although I just love saying his name when he makes a play!!) but Warren? Never say him just to get cut!! Why in the world wouldn't we go after someone for him instead of just cutting him?

I don't know if it's true, but I heard on WEEI today that because of the new CBA it may make sense to cut players then rehire them later at a discount price. The idea being let them get healthy on their own dime and then save money later. Also if the Patriots thought they could get something for him they would.

I don't know what goes on in Bill's head, but I'd sure love to know.

chachee52 · 07-29-2011, 08:24 PM

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I don't know what goes on in Bill's head, but I'd sure love to know.

The fact is: Just when you think that you do know, he throws something more drastic than a curve ball at ya!!! But I guess that's why we love the guy

VTDragon · 08-01-2011, 02:45 PM

I think that Banta-Cane, Crumple and Warren are ALL simple salary cap moves. If they are willing to come back at a lower price, Bill will rehire, if not, he feels that their on field worth has diminshed below their current salary cap number. This is not news, Bill has consistently done this over the years and every training camp there are moans and groans about him letting go of this or that "great" player. In virtually every case the players in question never again reach the level of play that they were at before and the substitute goes on to make us forget who was let go. Yes, there are exceptions, (Seymore and Ty Law come to mind). But, and this is a BIG but, they have to live within the salary cap. Look at a franchise like Oakland to see what you get when you sign guys to big contracts based upon past glory, but who are past there prime. Bill's way is better. Hey, lots of times I don't understand him either. But he is a far better judge of the true worth of a player than me, so I bow to his judgement. (Note, BTW, that he just re-signed Matt Light for two years).

04-22-2011, 04:27 PM	#1
Humpdebump Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Chris Location: Ct Posts: 263 Trading: (1)	Re: Patriots Fans Bledsoe will always be my favorite Pats player. As many said, this franchise was a joke before he came here. Granted, Parcells had a lot to do with it too. He might not have been a mobile qb but man coul he sling the ball. He gets too much crap for not being able to move around but I could think of a bunch of others that were exactly like that but people praise them. Imagine if Parcells chose Mirrer

04-20-2011, 05:49 AM	#2
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Patriots Fans Is there going to be football this season? __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

07-28-2011, 08:18 AM	#7
fhrblig Real cars have 3 pedals Join Date: May 2010 First Name: Bob Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 211 Trading: (0)	Re: Patriots Fans Uh, did the Patriots really just trade for Albert Haynesworth? I can hear the talking heads now, "if anyone can whip him into shape it's Belichick." Honestly, I think it's a LOT more likely that NO ONE can whip Haynesworth into shape. I heard them say the same thing about Shanahan and look how well that worked out. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong, but I think it ain't gonna happen. (In the interest of full disclosure, I'm not a Pats fan.)

07-28-2011, 09:29 AM	#11
massphatness Where's my buffaloooo ... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Vin Location: MassHolia Posts: 12,690 Trading: (206)	Re: Patriots Fans The Pats generally run a base 3-4, and my guess is they use Haynesworth only when they flex to their 4-3 package. __________________ *Help Support The Navy SEAL Foundation: HERE*

07-28-2011, 10:12 AM	#12
Bruins Fan Hooper drives the boat. Join Date: May 2009 First Name: John Location: Cape Cod Posts: 1,359 Trading: (0)	Re: Patriots Fans Clear the streets, and lock up your women __________________ Here's to swimmin' with bow-legged women.

07-28-2011, 06:45 PM	#13
Bruins Fan Hooper drives the boat. Join Date: May 2009 First Name: John Location: Cape Cod Posts: 1,359 Trading: (0)	Re: Patriots Fans Ochocinco,what the hell is going on in Foxboro? I always liked him but his skills are greatly diminished. At least he is a fun guy to have around,I don't think his clown act will fly? __________________ Here's to swimmin' with bow-legged women.

07-29-2011, 10:31 AM	#14
VTDragon Feeling at Home Join Date: May 2009 First Name: Gary Location: Vermont Posts: 627 Trading: (0)	Re: Patriots Fans Ochocinco - good move -- yes his skills are diminished, but he can still get open, he's not afraid to go over the middle, (ala Randy Moss), he plays every down, he's a good club house guy and he'll be lots of fun. Plus he didn't cost much. Hainsworth, I don't know... He is one screwed up dude. IF Belicheck can get him to play and be a solid citizen off the field the Pats will have made the deal of the year -when he wants to be this guy is a pass rushing monster. If not, he will be cut and the Pats have not really lost anything except some wasted time in practice. Ain't it great to have football to discuss again. __________________ An expert is a person who knows enough about what's really going on ... to be scared.

07-29-2011, 10:56 AM	#16
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Patriots Fans I have big expectation of 85. The whole world is watching and he's getting to play with the best. This could be his last & best opportunity to show the world he can be that good. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

07-29-2011, 03:33 PM	#17
chachee52 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Todd Location: Tyngsboro, MA Posts: 399 Trading: (2)	Re: Patriots Fans This is just like Christmas in July. I think that every year should be like this last week!!! So, Banta-Cann=gone, Crumple=gone, and Ty Warren=gone? WOW, This is getting crazy!!! I can see Crumple, Banta-Cann.... ok he's getting up there (although I just love saying his name when he makes a play!!) but Warren? Never say him just to get cut!! Why in the world wouldn't we go after someone for him instead of just cutting him? He's going to be missed, do we really think that Haynsworth is going to step it up that much? __________________

08-01-2011, 02:45 PM	#20
VTDragon Feeling at Home Join Date: May 2009 First Name: Gary Location: Vermont Posts: 627 Trading: (0)	Re: Patriots Fans I think that Banta-Cane, Crumple and Warren are ALL simple salary cap moves. If they are willing to come back at a lower price, Bill will rehire, if not, he feels that their on field worth has diminshed below their current salary cap number. This is not news, Bill has consistently done this over the years and every training camp there are moans and groans about him letting go of this or that "great" player. In virtually every case the players in question never again reach the level of play that they were at before and the substitute goes on to make us forget who was let go. Yes, there are exceptions, (Seymore and Ty Law come to mind). But, and this is a BIG but, they have to live within the salary cap. Look at a franchise like Oakland to see what you get when you sign guys to big contracts based upon past glory, but who are past there prime. Bill's way is better. Hey, lots of times I don't understand him either. But he is a far better judge of the true worth of a player than me, so I bow to his judgement. (Note, BTW, that he just re-signed Matt Light for two years). __________________ An expert is a person who knows enough about what's really going on ... to be scared.