Law snuffs out mailing smokes to deployed troops

boonedoggle · 08-12-2010, 08:53 AM

http://hamptonroads.com/node/565100

"The military has been trying to reduce smoking among soldiers and vets, including banning indoor smoking and ending smoking on submarines by the end of the year. The Pentagon laid out a plan in 1999 to reduce smoking rates by 5 percent a year and reduce chewing tobacco use to 15 percent by 2001, but wasn't able to achieve the goals."

awsmith4 · 08-12-2010, 09:14 AM

Its amazing how we can ask someone to put their life on the line but then deny them the simple pleasure of a smoke or a chew. At least cigars aren't included.

Volt · 08-12-2010, 09:22 AM

Wonder how this will affect Hugh and his shipments?

kaisersozei · 08-12-2010, 09:29 AM

I think this is referring to the same law that exempts cigar shipments from the restrictions, so the troop effort should still be okay. I hope...

neoflex · 08-12-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by awsmith4

Its amazing how we can ask someone to put their life on the line but then deny them the simple pleasure of a smoke or a chew. At least cigars aren't included.

Don't worry it's just the beginning. First they target cigarettes and than it spreads to all facets of tobacco. They just need to get a foot in and once they do they barge through the door.

hotreds · 08-12-2010, 09:36 AM

Well, how would they know what's in the box? Don't ask, don't tell!

mosesbotbol · 08-12-2010, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by neoflex

Don't worry it's just the beginning. First they target cigarettes and than it spreads to all facets of tobacco. They just need to get a foot in and once they do they barge through the door.

Soon they'll say combat is too dangerous for troops and shouldn't be allowed to be in harm’s way. Enough is enough! Injecting troops with questionable drugs and supplying them with defective armor is ok, but cigarette; they can cause cancer. The blown off leg; we’ll give you cane and fake leg…

We have to move on from knowing what is best for someone else. It’s America’s worst trait.

shilala · 08-12-2010, 10:04 AM

The Pentagon can suck it.

08-12-2010, 10:07 AM

Before we all get our panties in a bunch, this is what you need to know, from the article:

"Lynn Becker, a spokeswoman for the bill's sponsor, Sen. Herb Kohl of Wisconsin, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press that the law did not intend to restrict mailing tobacco to soldiers.

"Sen. Kohl's counsel is working with the legal office at USPS to determine whether there is an alternative to Express Mail that could be used to reach troops overseas," Becker said. "He's also working on a legislative fix to ensure that service members overseas can receive care packages that include tobacco products."

Starscream · 08-12-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by hotreds

Well, how would they know what's in the box? Don't ask, don't tell!

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by Resipsa

Before we all get our panties in a bunch, this is what you need to know, from the article:

"Lynn Becker, a spokeswoman for the bill's sponsor, Sen. Herb Kohl of Wisconsin, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press that the law did not intend to restrict mailing tobacco to soldiers.

"Sen. Kohl's counsel is working with the legal office at USPS to determine whether there is an alternative to Express Mail that could be used to reach troops overseas," Becker said. "He's also working on a legislative fix to ensure that service members overseas can receive care packages that include tobacco products."

That doesn't sound as bad.

08-12-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

The Pentagon can suck it.

G G · 08-12-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

The Pentagon can suck it.

Simple and to the point, that's one of the reasons I love Scott Shilala.

Volt · 08-12-2010, 11:50 AM

Regardless as to the "intent" of the law, people have to go by the law. It is still of some concern to me when Hugh is sending many sticks and have a large valuation in $$$$ that some hack at the PO or customs may nab because it is illegal until some time as Congress gets off it's collective dead ass.

hotreds · 08-12-2010, 12:29 PM

So far, so good. Don't really think this needs to be of great concern for us at the moment. I talked to a soldier at an airshow who told me there is enough mail going quickly through the x-ray machine to check it that unless a firearm is observed in the box, one should be good to go.

Volt · 08-12-2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds

So far, so good. Don't really think this needs to be of great concern for us at the moment. I talked to a soldier at an airshow who told me there is enough mail going quickly through the x-ray machine to check it that unless a firearm is observed in the box, one should be good to go.

Although I suppose we could always find a few MAC flights headed across the pond.

loki · 08-12-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa

Before we all get our panties in a bunch, this is what you need to know, from the article:

"Lynn Becker, a spokeswoman for the bill's sponsor, Sen. Herb Kohl of Wisconsin, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press that the law did not intend to restrict mailing tobacco to soldiers.

"Sen. Kohl's counsel is working with the legal office at USPS to determine whether there is an alternative to Express Mail that could be used to reach troops overseas," Becker said. "He's also working on a legislative fix to ensure that service members overseas can receive care packages that include tobacco products."

"did not intend"

and

"working on a fix"

sounds like we should have a fix in place sometime in the next decade....

kaisersozei · 08-12-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Volt

Regardless as to the "intent" of the law, people have to go by the law. It is still of some concern to me when Hugh is sending many sticks and have a large valuation in $$$$ that some hack at the PO or customs may nab because it is illegal until some time as Congress gets off it's collective dead ass.

This law only applies to cigarettes & smokeless tobacco. I suppose some hack at the PO could be overzealous and confiscate the cigar shipments, but then HE would be the one doing something illegal

08-12-2010, 08:53 AM	#1
boonedoggle The Search is ON Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jimmy Location: CHARLESTON, SC Posts: 631 Trading: (19)	Law snuffs out mailing smokes to deployed troops http://hamptonroads.com/node/565100 "The military has been trying to reduce smoking among soldiers and vets, including banning indoor smoking and ending smoking on submarines by the end of the year. The Pentagon laid out a plan in 1999 to reduce smoking rates by 5 percent a year and reduce chewing tobacco use to 15 percent by 2001, but wasn't able to achieve the goals." __________________ Dr. Hibbard: Is that the love of a man for a woman, or the love of a man for a fine Cuban cigar? (chuckles

08-12-2010, 09:14 AM	#2
awsmith4 Simple Pleasures - 2oL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Albert Location: Marietta, Georgia Posts: 4,602 Trading: (111)	Re: Law snuffs out mailing smokes to deployed troops Its amazing how we can ask someone to put their life on the line but then deny them the simple pleasure of a smoke or a chew. At least cigars aren't included. __________________ Its THIS easy to support our troops

08-12-2010, 09:22 AM	#3
Volt I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,799 Trading: (19)	Re: Law snuffs out mailing smokes to deployed troops Wonder how this will affect Hugh and his shipments? __________________ Curing the infection... One bullet at a time.

08-12-2010, 09:29 AM	#4
kaisersozei The Homebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Gerard Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 3,183 Trading: (40)	Re: Law snuffs out mailing smokes to deployed troops I think this is referring to the same law that exempts cigar shipments from the restrictions, so the troop effort should still be okay. I hope... __________________

08-12-2010, 09:36 AM	#6
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,662 Trading: (63)	Re: Law snuffs out mailing smokes to deployed troops Well, how would they know what's in the box? Don't ask, don't tell! __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

08-12-2010, 10:04 AM	#8
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Law snuffs out mailing smokes to deployed troops The Pentagon can suck it. __________________

08-12-2010, 10:07 AM	#9
Resipsa Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Law snuffs out mailing smokes to deployed troops Before we all get our panties in a bunch, this is what you need to know, from the article: "Lynn Becker, a spokeswoman for the bill's sponsor, Sen. Herb Kohl of Wisconsin, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press that the law did not intend to restrict mailing tobacco to soldiers. "Sen. Kohl's counsel is working with the legal office at USPS to determine whether there is an alternative to Express Mail that could be used to reach troops overseas," Becker said. "He's also working on a legislative fix to ensure that service members overseas can receive care packages that include tobacco products."

08-12-2010, 11:50 AM	#13
Volt I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,799 Trading: (19)	Re: Law snuffs out mailing smokes to deployed troops Regardless as to the "intent" of the law, people have to go by the law. It is still of some concern to me when Hugh is sending many sticks and have a large valuation in $$$$ that some hack at the PO or customs may nab because it is illegal until some time as Congress gets off it's collective dead ass. __________________ Curing the infection... One bullet at a time.

08-12-2010, 12:29 PM	#14
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,662 Trading: (63)	Re: Law snuffs out mailing smokes to deployed troops So far, so good. Don't really think this needs to be of great concern for us at the moment. I talked to a soldier at an airshow who told me there is enough mail going quickly through the x-ray machine to check it that unless a firearm is observed in the box, one should be good to go. __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.