Maduro Fuente Fuente opus x and opus sharks?

[T.G]

I've never heard of a good tasting Opus X fake. Everyone I know who has smoked them has said that they tasted both awful and absolutely nothing like a Fuente, no matter how perfect they looked.

Also, Sharks aren't that difficult to roll. The BBMF style shape (which is not exclusive to Fuente BTW), yeah, a bit more complex, but nothing a good roller can't master. Plus, repetition will teach precision; if all the person is going to do is crank out the same shaped fake all year long, it won't take them long to master one shape.

Originally Posted by T.G

I've never heard of a good tasting Opus X fake. Everyone I know who has smoked them has said that they tasted both awful and absolutely nothing like a Fuente, no matter how perfect they looked.

Also, Sharks aren't that difficult to roll. The BBMF style shape (which is not exclusive to Fuente BTW), yeah, a bit more complex, but nothing a good roller can't master. Plus, repetition will teach precision; if all the person is going to do is crank out the same shaped fake all year long, it won't take them long to master one shape.

well they didn't do a great job pressing them. rolling them is easy but getting them to keep the square foot and body is tough when you are rushing production. here's a few other pics.











these really are much better quality fakes and i believe that the bands and the ribbon are the real thing. someone at the factory is probably leaking them out or they are just taking them from the other cigars (as mentioned earlier about how easy it would be).

[AD720]

Did you smoke one?

Originally Posted by AD720

Did you smoke one?

nope, took them back and got my money. i'm not going to risk inhaling mold or some other unknown agent.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by barbourjay

well they didn't do a great job pressing them. rolling them is easy but getting them to keep the square foot and body is tough when you are rushing production. here's a few other pics.

these really are much better quality fakes and i believe that the bands and the ribbon are the real thing. someone at the factory is probably leaking them out or they are just taking them from the other cigars (as mentioned earlier about how easy it would be).

Ick, yes, that is a bad pressing job. Looking at that cigar, it makes me wonder if a roller was even involved in this, or someone (ie: the shop) just took some existing torpedo with a similar looking wrapper and after possibly cutting the cigar down to size, just jury rigged up a half-assed pressing arrangement of some sort. Same wonder for the maduros, are those even custom rolled, or did someone just take some inexpensive maduro that comes in a cedar sleeve and swap the band (the sizes don't match up to a FFOXM, but the 5 Vegas Serie A was the first thing that came to mind looking at your most recent photo).

Anyway, if those are real bands, how many were made would likely give an indicator as to where the bands came from. Recycling bands from legitimate cigars is possible, but not practical for anything more than a small quantity of fakes, so for a large quantity, I'd lean more toward "smuggled out of the factory" or "stolen direct from the printers" - from my experience, bands normally come packed in boxes like what business cards come in - same quantities too- 200, 500, maybe even 1000. Then multiple business card boxes packed into larger cardboard boxes for transport. Probably not that hard to make one or two of the smaller boxes disappear.

[T.G]

Oh, and I don't think the ribbon is that special that you couldn't easily find dozens of rolls of it at any number of different sewing & craft stores in the US.

[MiamiE]

So whos the culprit? Anyone in South Florida?

[Sauer Grapes]

What's he doing to slander you? Classy guy that owner.

Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes

What's he doing to slander you? Classy guy that owner.

posting crap on his facebook account about me. trying to make it seem like he is the victim and that he only runs a legitimate business.

[Sauer Grapes]

You should link it, or at least PM me the link.

Was there ever a decision made by the mods to post the name of the shop?

Originally Posted by Only Fuentes

Was there ever a decision made by the mods to post the name of the shop?

dunno as i never heard from them.

Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes

You should link it, or at least PM me the link.

just to update this again, he pulled it off his facebook account as i guess it was bringing too much heat. not to mention i contacted the newmans about it and gave them the link. i'm sure they didn't appreciate it.

[neoflex]

You would think after sending them the link that they would see what they are dealing with and pull the account but I guess the dollars and cents part of it is far more important than trying to protect their loyal customers. Like you said they could give the account to a stand up retailer in the area and keep the revenue coming in and protect their reputation that could be tarnished if someone were to buy and smoke one of a these fubar HTF cigars and decide it tasted like rolled up dog terds and spread the word that these sticks are POS' or word spreads that they continue to let this guy sell fakes.

[spud2]

The Opus Maduro's I have do not have dark wrappers like Anejo's have, much lighter wrapper. That was the first thing I noticed in Jay's photo's. Since one of mine was from a personal trade with Carlito (he loves 98' Trini Fundore's), I know the authenticity is correct. If the deals to good to be true, it probably is!

Oh my god...those Maduro Opus X look FANTASTIC!

[chippewastud79]

Originally Posted by Deputy

Oh my god...those Maduro Opus X look FANTASTIC!

Read the thread before the post.

Originally Posted by Deputy

Oh my god...those Maduro Opus X look FANTASTIC!

i hope that is sarcasm because they are fake

[twenty5]

I can understand not posting the name if we still were not sure if they were or were not fakes. Being that this has been looked into, they were found to be fake and the owner seems like less than a stellar guy, I think it would be beneficial to all if we knew the name of the shop. JMO

[systm]

Or Rather the Name of the owner. It's one thing to sell something fake, but another to harass a customer personally.

Well, Former customer.