2nds For everyday smokes?

[Whynot]

Anyone tried many of the seconds CI carries? I decided to give the Perdomos a try. I figure I can share with non-cigar smokers if nothing else. Just looking for a cheap everyday cigar that I won't cry if I have to pitch it for an alarm or anything. I'm sure it has been asked, but I have not had any luck searching in the reviews for seconds. Thanks

[Mr. Ed]

This thread had a good list: http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18590

I recommend the La Aurora 2nds from CI, very, very tasty.

[Whynot]

Thanks. I swear I searched 2nds, seconds, mistakes, and several others terms and got nothing. My search(or spelling) skills must suck.

[mosesbotbol]

I would not give a 2nd to a non-cigar smoker. Nothing better to turn them off from enjoying a cigar than giving them a crappy one.

I've smoked plenty of "seconds" that smoke just like the first line cigars. Rocky Patel, Perdomo, La Jimines, La Aurora to name a few. They smoke just as well as their first line.

[Mr. Ed]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

I would not give a 2nd to a non-cigar smoker. Nothing better to turn them off from enjoying a cigar than giving them a crappy one.

I always thought that 2nds were 2nds because of cosmetic flaws. Same chance you'll get a plugged 1st as a plugged 2nd. The La Aurora 2nd is pretty darn good, I would give it to anyone.

[duckmanco]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

I would not give a 2nd to a non-cigar smoker. Nothing better to turn them off from enjoying a cigar than giving them a crappy one.

seriously? I have yet to smoke ANY second that doesn't smoke exactly like the original, which include RP FS, Perdomo ESV 2nds, RP ITC 10th 2nds etc. Besides, the only difference I noted was no box, and no band on all of the above cigars.

[Whynot]

The RPs I have had have been great. I had one bad burner out of 25 or so sticks, but I had not tried any others. Was just wondering if there were any definites one way or the other. Thanks

[scoot]

Anyone have any experience with the super premium seconds that CI has?

The problem I have with 2nds is that I can usually get the 1sts on sale for less than the 2nds if I wait a while. I'm thinking of doing a group buy for some value sticks soon so look out for it if you're interested. If I do it I have a link to a review I'll see if I can include with the post.

[mosesbotbol]

If your seconds are tasting like first quality, then sure- give to a smoker or non-smoker. My statement is really geared to low quality, lousy cigars... Call them whatever you want. Only give out cigars that are good tasting, especially to the newbies.

Someone who smokes cigars all the time is easier to make due with a crappy cigar. They'll get over it. A newbie/non-cigar smoker will just say cigars suck and move on...

[TripleF]

Originally Posted by Mr. Ed

I always thought that 2nds were 2nds because of cosmetic flaws. Same chance you'll get a plugged 1st as a plugged 2nd. The La Aurora 2nd is pretty darn good, I would give it to anyone.

Where can these be purchased?

[mosesbotbol]

I thought 2nd's were just for blunt wraps?

[Dunkel]

I've never smoked a second and don't intend to. Most of the seconds available are nearly the same price as firsts on C bid, so why bother?

[Totemic]

Originally Posted by Mr. Ed

I always thought that 2nds were 2nds because of cosmetic flaws.

I suspect it's more an overrun than cosmetic flaws. I've seen plenty of "firsts" with cosmetic flaws on them. And once you remove the band, and place 5 "firsts" next to 5 seconds, odds are you won't be able to tell which is which.

They smoke exactly the same as their banded version from what I can tell.

[Totemic]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

If your seconds are tasting like first quality, then sure- give to a smoker or non-smoker. My statement is really geared to low quality, lousy cigars...

Have you actually tried them?
Because when I first started smoking, I was a pretty big RP fan. So naturally, I was picking up "firsts" of RP Vintage 90/92, Decade and OWR. I also picked up several of the seconds along the way. I still have many of the firsts and seconds in my cooler (well at least 3/4 of a box/bundle of each anyways). Aside for the lack of bands and boxes, there's absolutely no difference whatsoever between the firsts and seconds.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by Totemic

Have you actually tried them?

I have bought my share of 2nds, but the last one was maybe 8 years ago. You don't find Habanos 2nds, they get shredded into cigarette tobacco.

The only 2nds I would consider in NC's are in sizes that would a little expensive like double corona, pyramid, or churchill compared to buying 1st quality.

It really comes to giving 2nd's a "trial run" and if you happy; keep buying them. 2nd's means different things to different people and vendors. A spot or vein is no big deal. A tight cigar is the biggest deal as it just a throw away at that point. Not much of deal then.

Hey, as long as you are not buying JR's "tastes like Fuente" kind of cigar... I would not flush those down the toilet they are that bad.

[Whynot]

Wow, this wasn't meant to turn ugly. If I can find 1st within about 15% cost, I go for it, but for a desert stog or yard work, 2nds just make sense to me. I have only had 1 out of about 25 with a bad burn. If I have the time to sit and relax with one, I usually dig for something good out of the humidors.

[Mr. Ed]

Originally Posted by TripleF

Where can these be purchased?

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/p...m=CS-LAB&cat=3

15 for $18, not a bad deal!

[Pat1075]

RP makes a great bundled cigar to called cameroon especial that is worth looking into