Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars - Page 4

11-02-2009, 05:46 PM

I'm not impressed by Tats, nor any of the Altadis. There are good and bad on both sides of this. To me this is like watching the Dodgers play the Yankees.

s15driftking · 11-02-2009, 05:52 PM

tatuaje sucks, altadis sucks, the browns suck.... this thread sucks

11-02-2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by s15driftking

tatuaje sucks, altadis sucks, the browns suck.... this thread sucks

Exactly!

People getting rather uppity over a lawsuit that doesn't concern them. Both sides are suing each other and you guys are taking up arms as if this was a war. It isn't a huge deal, and it really shouldn't concern any of you to the point where you feel you should be defending a company.

It will go to court where it will be decided, so quit the bellyaching and go smoke a cigar.

11-03-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by s15driftking

tatuaje sucks, altadis sucks, the browns suck.... this thread sucks

and Gurkhas are AWESOME cigars, right Bob?

s15driftking · 11-03-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by darrell

and gurkhas are awesome cigars, right bob?

damn right!

Emjaysmash · 11-03-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by s15driftking

damn right!

Well, atleast I know who I can bomb my Gurkhas to...

Rabidsquirrel · 11-03-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Emjaysmash

Well, atleast I know who I can bomb my Gurkhas to...

Aren't dirty bombs a violation of the Geneva Convention?

s15driftking · 11-03-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Emjaysmash

Well, atleast I know who I can bomb my Gurkhas to...

you looking for any trades? pm me with a gurkha-inventory!

icehog3 · 11-02-2009, 06:17 PM

If this goes off in a personal direction any further, it will be CLOSED.

kenstogie · 11-02-2009, 07:59 PM

I just looked up what cigars Altadis makes, It's no wonder I didn't know or care.

Smokin Gator · 11-02-2009, 08:33 PM

LOL... I too didn't really what they made. I went and looked and they have several CC names. I know the arguments for them being able to use them... I just think it is funny they would bust someone else's chops about using something so widespread.

Lobo · 11-02-2009, 08:37 PM

Jeeeezzzz, why cant they all just get along?..... why cant people play nice?... another soap opera begins in the courts, over a symbol that belongs to the French anyhow... lol

s15driftking · 11-03-2009, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lobo

another soap opera begins in the courts, over a symbol that belongs to the French anyhow... lol

SUE FRANCE!!!!!

for having such a aesthetically pleasing design!!!

Skywalker · 11-03-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by s15driftking

SUE FRANCE!!!!!

for having such a aesthetically pleasing design!!!

11-03-2009, 11:50 AM

I have to agree with Altadis on this one. They have to protect their trademark or they lose it.

sikk50 · 11-03-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hoax

I have to agree with Altadis on this one. They have to protect their trademark or they lose it.

Even though they just trademarked it this year the day before the show he was showing off his new products at, then told him at his booth at the show the very next day to stop using the symbol?

I'm normaly all for protecting trademarks and I'm by now means a Tat fan boy (Perdomo fan boy maybe though), but this whole thing has reaked from the beginning.

11-03-2009, 05:08 PM

Altadis will never win a suit against Tatuaje or anyone else for trademark infringement simply because you can't claim trademark infringement if the mark in question is a historical or cultural symbol, which the Fleur De Lys clearly is. In cases like this the court will only rule in favor if the symbol can be proven to have been CREATED by Altadis, which is clearly was not. Unless they were around 1000 years ago.

More than likely they are doing this because they are bigger, probably retain a nice law firm, and wanted to make life a little difficult for their biggest competition.

11-03-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by covetry

Altadis will never win a suit against Tatuaje or anyone else for trademark infringement simply because you can't claim trademark infringement if the mark in question is a historical or cultural symbol, which the Fleur De Lys clearly is. I

NFL holds the Fleur de Lys as a trademark in respect to football and NFL related merchandising. So that argument is clearly false. But if you want to look up where in the USC or in international intellectual property laws say that is the case then please prove me wrong.

Trademarks are an important part of society and in business. The maintain image and prevent or limit unfair business and imitators.

Thrak · 11-03-2009, 05:23 PM

I wonder if they're going to sue the N.O. Saints too lol!

11-03-2009, 05:31 PM

anyone else research the lawsuit??

The Main Reason isn't about Tatuaje.

It's about Tabacalera de Garcia.

Which one you might ask??

That's why there is a lawsuit.

11-02-2009, 05:46 PM	#1
BC-Axeman Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars I'm not impressed by Tats, nor any of the Altadis. There are good and bad on both sides of this. To me this is like watching the Dodgers play the Yankees.

11-02-2009, 05:52 PM	#2
s15driftking Go Browns! Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Bobby Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 2,763 Trading: (16)	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars tatuaje sucks, altadis sucks, the browns suck.... this thread sucks __________________ diamonds/guns

11-02-2009, 06:17 PM	#9
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,769 Trading: (60)	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars If this goes off in a personal direction any further, it will be CLOSED. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

11-02-2009, 07:59 PM	#10
kenstogie following the whiterabbit Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 1,325 Trading: (3)	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars I just looked up what cigars Altadis makes, It's no wonder I didn't know or care. __________________ I intend to live forever. So far, so good.

11-02-2009, 08:33 PM	#11
Smokin Gator Just plain insane! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Swamp Posts: 6,237 Trading: (106)	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars LOL... I too didn't really what they made. I went and looked and they have several CC names. I know the arguments for them being able to use them... I just think it is funny they would bust someone else's chops about using something so widespread. __________________ Check out the Cigar Asylum Newbie Sampler Trade

11-02-2009, 08:37 PM	#12
Lobo its all good mmmkay! Join Date: Jul 2009 First Name: Kev Location: Pacific NorthWest Posts: 83 Trading: (1)	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars Jeeeezzzz, why cant they all just get along?..... why cant people play nice?... another soap opera begins in the courts, over a symbol that belongs to the French anyhow... lol

11-03-2009, 11:50 AM	#15
hoax Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars I have to agree with Altadis on this one. They have to protect their trademark or they lose it.

11-03-2009, 05:08 PM	#17
covetry Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars Altadis will never win a suit against Tatuaje or anyone else for trademark infringement simply because you can't claim trademark infringement if the mark in question is a historical or cultural symbol, which the Fleur De Lys clearly is. In cases like this the court will only rule in favor if the symbol can be proven to have been CREATED by Altadis, which is clearly was not. Unless they were around 1000 years ago. More than likely they are doing this because they are bigger, probably retain a nice law firm, and wanted to make life a little difficult for their biggest competition.

11-03-2009, 05:23 PM	#19
Thrak .. the man from Nantucket Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 558 Trading: (2)	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars I wonder if they're going to sue the N.O. Saints too lol!

11-03-2009, 05:31 PM	#20
tobii3 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars anyone else research the lawsuit?? The Main Reason isn't about Tatuaje. It's about Tabacalera de Garcia. Which one you might ask?? That's why there is a lawsuit.