Which NCs age well? - Page 2

08-25-2009, 08:07 PM

I would think San Cristobol's would age well. I have been buying EO 601's specifically for aging and some Oliva masters blend 2 also. However I smoked a DPG blue with 2 years age on it and didn't like it as much as out of the box.

Scottw · 08-25-2009, 08:09 PM

I have some 3 yr old RP vintage 1990's which are smoking greay and some original release boxes of the Decades which are getting really tasty.

skullnrose · 08-25-2009, 08:36 PM

Fuente Don Carlos seem to me to get better with time. I have some with 2-3 years on them and they are smoking great.

borndead1 · 08-27-2009, 07:30 AM

From my personal experience:

Any Nicaraguan ligero bomb or any full-flavored Maduro.

JJG · 08-27-2009, 08:02 AM

This thread got me thinking...

We all know that CCs are better for aging because the tobacco is often more fresh, and it's generally accepted that most NCs are made to be smoked right away. In most cases the tobacco used in NCs is already aged to some degree. and from what I understand, Opus Xs are also made from tobacco that is several years aged.

so why is it that Opus are generally considered a good candidate for long term aging but other NCs made with aged tobacco are not? I know Opus are full flavored in strength and maybe 5-10 years would mellow them a bit, but it stands to reason that other strong NC cigars made with aged tobacco should also be good candidates for long term aging. right?

Kreth · 08-27-2009, 08:08 AM

I haven't been at this long enough for any serious aging, but I've noticed two of my go-tos that really improved with a couple of months on them: Perdomo Slow-Aged Lot 826 Maduro and Sancho Panza Double Maduro. The flavors are still there, but they pick up a smoothness that makes them really enjoyable to smoke.

bigloo · 08-27-2009, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJG

This thread got me thinking...

We all know that CCs are better for aging because the tobacco is often more fresh, and it's generally accepted that most NCs are made to be smoked right away. In most cases the tobacco used in NCs is already aged to some degree. and from what I understand, Opus Xs are also made from tobacco that is several years aged.

so why is it that Opus are generally considered a good candidate for long term aging but other NCs made with aged tobacco are not? I know Opus are full flavored in strength and maybe 5-10 years would mellow them a bit, but it stands to reason that other strong NC cigars made with aged tobacco should also be good candidates for long term aging. right?

I think aging achieves two effects. The first is for "fresh" tobacco that is still fermenting (CC). The next is to allow the cigar to continue to mellow and meld flavors (both CC and NC). Stronger cigars (Opus) will mellow with age giving a different experience. As I stated, I like some age on cigars as it reduces the pepper flavor (as least IMHO).Cigars which are already mild tend to become very boring. I was gifted a Excalibur Dark Knight, not a cigar I usually crave, but this thing has cello so yellow you can barely see through it... I am waiting for a great day to smoke it and plan to smoke it with a fresh one. I will report back when I do.

08-25-2009, 08:43 PM

Aging lets the ammonia out of cigars that are still fermenting. Really fresh ones I'll let sit for six months. Some cigars smoke harsh at first but then come alive with complexity after aging. I think it's hit or miss. I like aged La Glorias and Taboos as well as most RPs. I like all Padrons, aged or not, so I can't say. If someone will send me a sampler of PAMs aged fresh to 5yrs I will be happy to review them.

troutbreath · 08-25-2009, 08:44 PM

Good question.

I usually let just about everything rest for a few months, just to get them acclimated to my humi. But, it seems that the stronger flavored sticks seemed to age the best. Opus X always get at least 6 months. I haven't had anything really get "bland" on me, yet, but I don't have anything too old, either.

What's amazing to me is how quickly I will find things getting old . . . or aged. I know they age at the same rate, but time just flies by. I bought a bunch of boxes before SCHIP . . . and that will be 6 months before you know it. I know that is not YEARS . . . but it's still longer than I expected them to last.

DoctaJ · 08-27-2009, 07:21 AM

This question relates to the thread title:

"Are there certain waiting periods you will give to certain high end cigars?"

I have seen a few people mention that Opus's age very well. Do you keep them in the humidor for a certain amount of time when you purchase a new batch before lighting them up? Any other sticks you will let age a certain amount of time before trying them out? Interesting thread

08-27-2009, 10:30 PM

I smoked a Graycliff 1666 Pirate last night that kicked my butt. Definently plan on letting the rest I have rest.

Chemyst · 08-28-2009, 12:26 PM

How do you get plume without age?

I've been pleasantly surprised by a Hemi Signature maduro
that aged(with plume) into one of my most memorable smokes
in 2008.

There have been other surprises, too. Aging took the bite off
of LPH, which made it an ordinary, bland smoke. But an RP
Fusion with 18 months or so, turned into another memorable
smoke (yard gar) and a very nice smoke.

I'm glad to learn that Cien Anos ages well, since I have some
belis approaching a year on them.

I think that it depends on what you like in a cigar, and the
attributes of the cigar you're aging, on whether the results
of aging will be to your liking.

I have a lot of odds 'n' ends in my humi, getting age by just
being forgotten. Hopefully, many of them will become pleasant
surprises, once I get around to finding/smoking them.

Good topic.

Chemyst

Chemyst · 08-29-2009, 01:55 PM

I knew I was forgetting one that ages very well...

RyJ Reserve maduro.

Just a great smoke with a year or two on them.
I have a box aging and maybe a fiver available in the mean time.

Chemyst

troutbreath · 08-29-2009, 05:36 PM

The first box I ever purchased was 25 Tatuaje Noellas. They have really smoothed out nicely over the last 18 months.

pmwz · 08-29-2009, 05:36 PM

i thin a good read on aging nc cigars is this column http://www.cigarresearch.com/Cigar_Research/CC3.html by colin ganley. I think ll of his collectors corner article are a good read.

kydsid · 08-31-2009, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmwz

i thin a good read on aging nc cigars is this column http://www.cigarresearch.com/Cigar_Research/CC3.html by colin ganley. I think ll of his collectors corner article are a good read.

Thank you for that link. I have been to CIGAR many times and missed this. I will have to go back and ask some questions.

Chris. · 08-29-2009, 06:11 PM

I have some VS that were terrible whenI bought them almost a year ago, but they are turning around nicely.

08-29-2009, 06:20 PM

Padilla Hybrids seem born to age. Just a few months brings out the oils and tempers the flavors. Nice thread, btw!

08-29-2009, 06:23 PM

Also, one thing to consider with NCs is that they often say "the wraper has been aged x years". Remember, in order for the flavors of a cigar to marry properly the ENTIRE cigar needs to age. Just having a wrapper that's aged on young binder/filler isn't the same. my

08-25-2009, 08:07 PM	#1
Steelergar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Which NCs age well? I would think San Cristobol's would age well. I have been buying EO 601's specifically for aging and some Oliva masters blend 2 also. However I smoked a DPG blue with 2 years age on it and didn't like it as much as out of the box.

08-25-2009, 08:09 PM	#2
Scottw Going Commando Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Location: Sussex, NJ Posts: 2,815 Trading: (6)	Re: Which NCs age well? I have some 3 yr old RP vintage 1990's which are smoking greay and some original release boxes of the Decades which are getting really tasty.

08-25-2009, 08:36 PM	#3
skullnrose Ashes,ashes,all fall down Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Scott Posts: 799 Trading: (16)	Re: Which NCs age well? Fuente Don Carlos seem to me to get better with time. I have some with 2-3 years on them and they are smoking great. __________________

08-27-2009, 07:30 AM	#4
borndead1 Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 1,376 Trading: (7)	Re: Which NCs age well? From my personal experience: Any Nicaraguan ligero bomb or any full-flavored Maduro.

08-27-2009, 08:02 AM	#5
JJG Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Houston Posts: 1,260 Trading: (4)	Re: Which NCs age well? This thread got me thinking... We all know that CCs are better for aging because the tobacco is often more fresh, and it's generally accepted that most NCs are made to be smoked right away. In most cases the tobacco used in NCs is already aged to some degree. and from what I understand, Opus Xs are also made from tobacco that is several years aged. so why is it that Opus are generally considered a good candidate for long term aging but other NCs made with aged tobacco are not? I know Opus are full flavored in strength and maybe 5-10 years would mellow them a bit, but it stands to reason that other strong NC cigars made with aged tobacco should also be good candidates for long term aging. right?

08-27-2009, 08:08 AM	#6
Kreth Ronin smoker Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Oneonta, NY Posts: 3,620 Trading: (14)	Re: Which NCs age well? I haven't been at this long enough for any serious aging, but I've noticed two of my go-tos that really improved with a couple of months on them: Perdomo Slow-Aged Lot 826 Maduro and Sancho Panza Double Maduro. The flavors are still there, but they pick up a smoothness that makes them really enjoyable to smoke. __________________ Cigarette-free since January 2010

08-25-2009, 08:43 PM	#8
BC-Axeman Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Which NCs age well? Aging lets the ammonia out of cigars that are still fermenting. Really fresh ones I'll let sit for six months. Some cigars smoke harsh at first but then come alive with complexity after aging. I think it's hit or miss. I like aged La Glorias and Taboos as well as most RPs. I like all Padrons, aged or not, so I can't say. If someone will send me a sampler of PAMs aged fresh to 5yrs I will be happy to review them.

08-25-2009, 08:44 PM	#9
troutbreath Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: The Dash, NC Posts: 706 Trading: (0)	Re: Which NCs age well? Good question. I usually let just about everything rest for a few months, just to get them acclimated to my humi. But, it seems that the stronger flavored sticks seemed to age the best. Opus X always get at least 6 months. I haven't had anything really get "bland" on me, yet, but I don't have anything too old, either. What's amazing to me is how quickly I will find things getting old . . . or aged. I know they age at the same rate, but time just flies by. I bought a bunch of boxes before SCHIP . . . and that will be 6 months before you know it. I know that is not YEARS . . . but it's still longer than I expected them to last.

08-27-2009, 07:21 AM	#10
DoctaJ Still Watching My Back Join Date: May 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 135 Trading: (5)	Re: Which NCs age well? This question relates to the thread title: "Are there certain waiting periods you will give to certain high end cigars?" I have seen a few people mention that Opus's age very well. Do you keep them in the humidor for a certain amount of time when you purchase a new batch before lighting them up? Any other sticks you will let age a certain amount of time before trying them out? Interesting thread

08-27-2009, 10:30 PM	#11
Steelergar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Which NCs age well? I smoked a Graycliff 1666 Pirate last night that kicked my butt. Definently plan on letting the rest I have rest.

08-28-2009, 12:26 PM	#12
Chemyst Doin Time on Planet Earth Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Ken Location: So. Jersey Posts: 392 Trading: (7)	Re: Which NCs age well? How do you get plume without age? I've been pleasantly surprised by a Hemi Signature maduro that aged(with plume) into one of my most memorable smokes in 2008. There have been other surprises, too. Aging took the bite off of LPH, which made it an ordinary, bland smoke. But an RP Fusion with 18 months or so, turned into another memorable smoke (yard gar) and a very nice smoke. I'm glad to learn that Cien Anos ages well, since I have some belis approaching a year on them. I think that it depends on what you like in a cigar, and the attributes of the cigar you're aging, on whether the results of aging will be to your liking. I have a lot of odds 'n' ends in my humi, getting age by just being forgotten. Hopefully, many of them will become pleasant surprises, once I get around to finding/smoking them. Good topic. Chemyst

08-29-2009, 01:55 PM	#13
Chemyst Doin Time on Planet Earth Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Ken Location: So. Jersey Posts: 392 Trading: (7)	Re: Which NCs age well? I knew I was forgetting one that ages very well... RyJ Reserve maduro. Just a great smoke with a year or two on them. I have a box aging and maybe a fiver available in the mean time. Chemyst

08-29-2009, 05:36 PM	#14
troutbreath Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: The Dash, NC Posts: 706 Trading: (0)	Re: Which NCs age well? The first box I ever purchased was 25 Tatuaje Noellas. They have really smoothed out nicely over the last 18 months.

08-29-2009, 05:36 PM	#15
pmwz Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: cologne Posts: 372 Trading: (0)	Re: Which NCs age well? i thin a good read on aging nc cigars is this column http://www.cigarresearch.com/Cigar_Research/CC3.html by colin ganley. I think ll of his collectors corner article are a good read.

08-29-2009, 06:11 PM	#17
Chris. PSHC! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,842 Trading: (25)	Re: Which NCs age well? I have some VS that were terrible whenI bought them almost a year ago, but they are turning around nicely. __________________

08-29-2009, 06:20 PM	#18
bookman Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Which NCs age well? Padilla Hybrids seem born to age. Just a few months brings out the oils and tempers the flavors. Nice thread, btw!

08-29-2009, 06:23 PM	#19
bookman Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Which NCs age well? Also, one thing to consider with NCs is that they often say "the wraper has been aged x years". Remember, in order for the flavors of a cigar to marry properly the ENTIRE cigar needs to age. Just having a wrapper that's aged on young binder/filler isn't the same. my