So, I thought about doing the cash for clunkers.

[kydsid]

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman

What happens to the old cars? They have to be registered and drivable. Do they crush them or maybe ship them out of country?

All cars turned into a dealership for the program must be registered with the program and proof of crushing turned in or a fine will be levied on the dealer.

[JohnRogers]

They want to make sure you don't go to a salvage yard and buy a $500 "driver" to scam the system. I like the 25 year old rule to protect classics, speaking of...this Camaro with a V8 is worth more as a low mileage enthusiast car. Even a well preserved low mileage V6 car could be worth more than the $4500. Any way I wasn't planning on replacing the wife's car for two more years but if I can get the numbers straight I'll buy her a PT Cruiser today for $8500. My '95 Cougar qualifies.

[Commander Quan]

This almost makes blood shoot out my eyes! Why the hell are they scraping these vehicles? Aren't there people out there that are loosing their vehicles because they have lost they're job and can't afford the payments? How are they supposed to get to work when they get a job? What about the lower income families that don't need a new car but need a reliable vehicle? I'm 26 and up until a year a go I didn't drive a care that I paid more than $3000 for, and none of those were "clunkers". That means that if the people that I bought those cars from could have traded it in for 4500 even though they were only worth between $2,000 and $3000 I would have had to either pay more for a car or not gone to work, and school.

Instead the program should have been to donate your car to one of the charities that auction them off, the Gov't could give a tax refund up to a certain amount that could be used either for a new car, or a good used car, or spent however someone wanted to like making a couple extra payments on a house or pay down a credit card bill, you know smart thing like that.

[blugill]

Originally Posted by Commander Quan

This almost makes blood shoot out my eyes! Why the hell are they scraping these vehicles? Aren't there people out there that are loosing their vehicles because they have lost they're job and can't afford the payments? How are they supposed to get to work when they get a job?

OH no, you are mistaken. The economy is fixed, I heard the President say so Wednesday night. It must be a mistake with the finance company or something if anyone is losing their vehicles now. They should probably just call and get it straightened out

[BigAl_SC]

Originally Posted by blugill

OH no, you are mistaken. The economy is fixed, I heard the President say so Wednesday night. It must be a mistake with the finance company or something if anyone is losing their vehicles now. They should probably just call and get it straightened out

You are correct, sir. I pointed that out last night to a friend who has been looking for a job for six months. (IT director and project manager for a fortune 500 that sent everything overseas). The economy is all fixed and the fact that he can not find employment is all his fault because he wishes to make more than minimum wage. The President said so.

[zmancbr]

Originally Posted by ChallengerSRT8

They want to make sure you don't go to a salvage yard and buy a $500 "driver" to scam the system. I like the 25 year old rule to protect classics, speaking of...this Camaro with a V8 is worth more as a low mileage enthusiast car. Even a well preserved low mileage V6 car could be worth more than the $4500. Any way I wasn't planning on replacing the wife's car for two more years but if I can get the numbers straight I'll buy her a PT Cruiser today for $8500. My '95 Cougar qualifies.

Yeah but the problem, is most 25+ year old cars piles of junk... and you can't tell me that a rusted out 1982 F250, that needs LOTs of work is a classic...

[shaggy]

we have a similar kind of system in canada......get a discount off a new car or donate it to charity and get a tax reciept. quite a few seem to be taking advantage of it judging by how many of them i pick up. we get them and cannot sell them at all, we arent even suppose to sell the engines out of them. they are now talking about giving a discount coupon for the purchase of a bicycle for trading in an old clunker.

this is our program
http://www.retireyourride.ca/home.aspx

[bobarian]

I think you will find that soon Mfg's will chip in with their own incentives. Saw a Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep ad this morning that said they are matching the govt program for those with a qualifying car and offering their own rebate for those who do not have a qualifier. Great news for those with a trader, good news for those who dont. If you are looking for a Chrysler product.

[alley00p]

Originally Posted by bobarian

I think you will find that soon Mfg's will chip in with their own incentives. Saw a Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep ad this morning that said they are matching the govt program for those with a qualifying car and offering their own rebate for those who do not have a qualifier. Great news for those with a trader, good news for those who dont. If you are looking for a Obama Motors product.

Bob, there is a reason for those ads. I have 2 Chrysler vehicles that are coming out of lease in a few months, and the dealers are begging me to take a new vehicle from them - their lots are full of 2009 models, and they are practically giving them away. But, here in the Motor City, no one is interested, especially the many thousands of laid-off and bought-out ex-Chrysler employees.

By the same token, the one company that didn't go begging for money from the Guvmint, Ford, has zero 2009's and are selling truckloads of 2010's that show up daily! I went Friday to look at a Ford Explorer; it's the same size as my Jeep Commander, and if I get something new, I'll probably go with Ford. And this is coming from someone who has been buying or leasing Chrysler vehicles exclusively since 1973!

This whole "Cash for Clunkers" deal is another Obama "Were doing our best to help out you poor people out there" program. If it was really meant to help anyone, the program would have been written to accept any vehicle that is 10 years old or older and doesn't meet the upcoming new CAFE standards!

Originally Posted by alley00p

By the same token, the one company that didn't go begging for money from the Guvmint, Ford, has zero 2009's and are selling truckloads of 2010's that show up daily!

Ah yes, Ford. Repeat after me...""Class action Lawsuits""

Remember The Firestone debacle back in the 90's? Over 250 people killed, hundreds injured, and Ford's response was to ""offer"" a $300 or $500 voucher towards a NEW Ford vehicle. That was nice of them.

Maybe the Plastic Manifolds?? The one that leaked and caused the engines to seize?? Ford was nice enough to send 1.8 million owners a check for $735. That's nice considering an engine replacement is in the THOUSANDS of dollars.

Or possibly the ""rollover risk"" of the ""Exploder""?? Once again, Ford was nice enough to offer the same $300 to $500 voucher (if you QUALIFIED for it) towards a new Ford vehicle.

Maybe the cruise control problem?? 3.6 million vehicles with a switch that could cause the engine to catch fire?? Then not having enough repair parts to FIX the problem??

Oh yeah, Ford is right there at the top of my list.

[bobarian]

Originally Posted by alley00p

Bob,

Charlie, I take offense at your attempt ot politicize my post. My intent was to show that the manufacturers will all come up with their own incentive programs for those who are looking to make a purchase. The choice of car manufacturer is personal and I would in no way direct anyone to choose one manufacturer over another.

The OP's question was whether or not you would be participating in this program. Political commentary is not necessary or permissible.

[alley00p]

Originally Posted by bobarian

Charlie, I take offense at your attempt ot politicize my post. My intent was to show that the manufacturers will all come up with their own incentive programs for those who are looking to make a purchase. The choice of car manufacturer is personal and I would in no way direct anyone to choose one manufacturer over another.

The OP's question was whether or not you would be participating in this program. Political commentary is not necessary or permissible.

Bob, you are completely correct, and I apologize for changing your words in the quote. I have no excuse for my conduct, and didn't realize the large amount of frustration I have for our conditions here locally would allow me to do something that offended another Inmate.

I have sent you a separate PM, and other than asking here that you accept my apology in the spirit that it was offered, I won't be discussing anything else here on this thread.

[KidRock]

Originally Posted by alley00p

Bob, there is a reason for those ads. I have 2 Chrysler vehicles that are coming out of lease in a few months, and the dealers are begging me to take a new vehicle from them - their lots are full of 2009 models, and they are practically giving them away. But, here in the Motor City, no one is interested, especially the many thousands of laid-off and bought-out ex-Chrysler employees.

By the same token, the one company that didn't go begging for money from the Guvmint, Ford, has zero 2009's and are selling truckloads of 2010's that show up daily! I went Friday to look at a Ford Explorer; it's the same size as my Jeep Commander, and if I get something new, I'll probably go with Ford. And this is coming from someone who has been buying or leasing Chrysler vehicles exclusively since 1973!

This whole "Cash for Clunkers" deal is another Obama "Were doing our best to help out you poor people out there" program. If it was really meant to help anyone, the program would have been written to accept any vehicle that is 10 years old or older and doesn't meet the upcoming new CAFE standards!

Charlie,

This is the best post on CA, I have ever seen. You are the man!!

[smokeyandthebandit05]

Well Im doing the cash for clunkers tonight. Im trading in my 93 explorer that currently gets 10 mpg for a 09 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport that gets 22mpg at the least.

[smokeyandthebandit05]

Well Ive had the car for a total of about 11 hours and my dad already managed to lock all 3 keys in the car

[CBI_2]

We all need to remember that this falls under the umbrella of one of the oldest lies around: " I'm from the government and I'm here to help you".

Run away from it as fast as you can.

When are people going to wake up and realize that the government usually does not fix anything they make the problems worse or create new ones. This program is just another attempt to bailout the bailout.

[Wolfgang]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYsc...eature=related

Crack pot or not this guy has the right idea!

[sikk50]

Do diesels qualify? If so I got a 13mpg oil burner they can have lol

[shaggy]

i heard the reason ford didnt go after a bailout was that they mortgaged all their plants for operating capitol. that would be some big debt to try to get out of if it is true

[poker]

Originally Posted by larryinlc

I have a pristine 95 Camaro bought new by me with 43k miles on it, and thought I might take advantage of the cash for clunkers program. According to the cars.gov website, my car averages 20mpg so it does not qualify. Also, it would be shame to scrap this car as required by law. Still, that 4500.00 would have been a sweet deal on a new car. Anyone taking advantage of the program??

Larry

Chrysler Doubles Cash Incentive

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/artic...965&&GT1=22013

"Double Ca$h for Your Old Car," offers up to $4,500 cash or 0 percent financing for 72 months on qualifying new vehicles, even if the consumer's trade-in doesn't qualify for the federal incentive.