Am I still..."man"?

[zmancbr]

I find that some cigars have quite a bit of nicotine and I'm pretty sensitive to it compared to other Botls/Sotls....so I tend to cut it with sugar like pepsi and for stronger ones I eat a good meal first...maybe try that? Or like others have said it doesn't hurt to talk to your doc... But mine only tells me to quit smoking...lol
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the person make a man mate not the stuff he owns or smokes lol

[TanithT]

I don't think you are supposed to smoke cigars with your, er, gender-specific parts. At least I hope not. Presidential examples aside. :eek

For whatever reason I am an utter lightweight when it comes to alcohol and caffeine, but nicotine just doesn't seem to do me in even when I smoke a dozen or more cigars back to back at an all day herf event. I don't eat any sugar, or much of anything sugary. Don't really eat starches either, mostly do a low carb diet. I'm not sure why people can vary in their response to nicotine, even the same person at different times, but it would be nifty if somebody had links to medical information on the subject.

What makes sugar counteract nicotine? Is it a competing receptor? What's the mechanism?

[Sailkat]

It's the precursor to turning 40 The closer you get, the more you will start falling apart. Aches, pains, memory loss, heartburn, cigars too stong.....it's just the start........

Seriously......probably should check with your doctor to make sure.

[GreekGodX]

Originally Posted by TanithT

What makes sugar counteract nicotine? Is it a competing receptor? What's the mechanism?

To put it simply; Nicotine indirectly lowers blood glucose levels. By eating a simple carbohydrate or glucose, you counteract the nicotine lowering blood sugar levels.

[TanithT]

Originally Posted by GreekGodX

To put it simply; Nicotine indirectly lowers blood glucose levels. By eating a simple carbohydrate or glucose, you counteract the nicotine lowering blood sugar levels.

Hmm. If you're a low carber who almost never eats simple carbohydrates, I wonder if it would follow that you have more stable blood sugar levels that are not prone to swings, and/or more tolerance for low blood sugar levels, and consequently less prone to nicotine effects?

Originally Posted by TanithT

Hmm. If you're a low carber who almost never eats simple carbohydrates, I wonder if it would follow that you have more stable blood sugar levels that are not prone to swings, and/or more tolerance for low blood sugar levels, and consequently less prone to nicotine effects?

You very well could be less prone to the nicotine effects. Everyone's physiology is different. It's quite interesting, in my line of work I see this a lot. One person could have a BGL of 45 and still be talking normally, but have a chief complaint of, not feeling "quite right", other people will be unconscious at a 45 BGL.
I'm a lot like you, Tanith. I don't smoke (cigarettes), eat very little sugar, I'm not diabetic and have never to this day had the Nicotine high/buzz from any cigar. I smoke full bodied cigars almost exclusively with 0% effects from nicotine.
I will do a bit more research on this and see what I find. Very, very interesting.

[TanithT]

Originally Posted by Waynegro1

I'm a lot like you, Tanith. I don't smoke (cigarettes), eat very little sugar, I'm not diabetic and have never to this day had the Nicotine high/buzz from any cigar. I smoke full bodied cigars almost exclusively with 0% effects from nicotine.

Thanks for the research offer, it's a fascinating subject.

I smoke cigars in a fairly wide range. I enjoy and appreciate any stick that has a good balance of flavors. Too mild and not flavorful or robust enough to be balanced is not good to me, and too strong/harsh/unbalanced is also not good to me. There's a fair number of mild-medium cigars in my typical rotation, but at an all day herf when people keep shoving random tasty sticks in my hand cause I just gotta try this, there's a fair number of *everything* in the rotation. I literally don't think I stopped smoking from 3PM to nearly 3AM on Friday at the Lake Greenwood herf, other than short bathroom and meal breaks. There was no effect other than "wow, these cigars sure are great." I don't know how many cigars I consumed, but it was pretty insane. Generally I had at least one in hand and often there was something else going around as a PPP.

The next day my palate was slightly scorched and I had less of a desire to be a perpetual chimney, so I did without smoking for a most of the day while swimming in the lake. In the evening a good handful still got consumed, and there were some tasty sticks being passed around that I definitely wasn't turning down.

I don't smoke cigarettes either and I don't know why my nicotine tolerance effectively seems to be that of a cockroach. I'm not a heavy smoker and I've historically never been a daily cigar smoker, though now that Rob has picked up the habit we're more likely to share an evening on the porch that way. I don't think this is an acquired tolerance. It would be interesting to find out what it is though.

Thanks for all the supportive/helpful comments. I have a doc appointment in the Fall, so we'll see.

Oh, and yes, I know that strong cigars don't make a man a man. What makes a man a man is his character.

Also his B.O.

I don't have hot flashes, but i have been watching a lot of oprah..

No, but now that I think about it I have been trying to lose some bellyfat so i've been eating less sugar and running in the morning.

Hmmm???

Oh, and i have been spending a LOT of time "manipulating" myself to pictures of Salma Hayek on the Internet...

Thanks again all. I'm gonna try the sugar intake thing, see how it works.

[csbrewfisher]

I just want to say, if you're getting nic sick and drinking lite beer, you might require recertification of your manhood.

Originally Posted by csbrewfisher

I just want to say, if you're getting nic sick and drinking lite beer, you might require recertification of your manhood.

Um, actually, i don't drink at all anymore...



Someone reincert teh manhood!!!

[TanithT]

Originally Posted by bookman

Someone reincert teh manhood!!!

Are you SURE that's really what you want to ask someone to do?

[csbrewfisher]

Originally Posted by bookman

Um, actually, i don't drink at all anymore...

That would be EXACTLY the same as drinking lite beer, except it doesn't require re-certification.

[GreekGodX]

I like the thought of the low carbs making you more tolerant to nicotine because of he constant level of blood glucose. This is very intersting and making me think a lot about it. My only conclusion was the more exposure to nicotine the greater your tolerance. Your nicotinic receptors in your body would need more nicotine to be satisfied.

[TanithT]

Originally Posted by GreekGodX

I like the thought of the low carbs making you more tolerant to nicotine because of he constant level of blood glucose. This is very intersting and making me think a lot about it. My only conclusion was the more exposure to nicotine the greater your tolerance. Your nicotinic receptors in your body would need more nicotine to be satisfied.

That's the interesting thing. I more or less quit smoking for quite some years, but when I picked it back up again and immediately hit a herf, my tolerance levels were still the same - eg, no really apparent upper limit as far as I can tell.

I'm sure if I inhaled I'd be in trouble, and I've also noticed that if I mix cigars with large amounts of alcohol, caffeine and/or greasy or sugary/starchy processed food (which I normally do not eat at all), I'll be sick. But I'm not sure how much the cigars have to do with that, since I'll feel like utter crap if I indulge in those things to excess whether I'm smoking or not.

[GreekGodX]

Originally Posted by TanithT

That's the interesting thing. I more or less quit smoking for quite some years, but when I picked it back up again and immediately hit a herf, my tolerance levels were still the same - eg, no really apparent upper limit as far as I can tell.

I'm sure if I inhaled I'd be in trouble, and I've also noticed that if I mix cigars with large amounts of alcohol, caffeine and/or greasy or sugary/starchy processed food (which I normally do not eat at all), I'll be sick. But I'm not sure how much the cigars have to do with that, since I'll feel like utter crap if I indulge in those things to excess whether I'm smoking or not.

I agree on the food thing. If you don't eat it normally then once you introduce it to your body you will get sick...

I wonder if there is any psychological aspect to the nicotine tolerance? What about the nicotine receptors in the body? Just because you stopped smoking does not mean the receptors reverted back to how they were.

[TanithT]

Originally Posted by GreekGodX

I agree on the food thing. If you don't eat it normally then once you introduce it to your body you will get sick...

Real low tolerance for junk food. Half a candy bar or a bite of some processed junk food sweet will make me think about hurling, more than that and I probably will hurl.

I wonder if there is any psychological aspect to the nicotine tolerance? What about the nicotine receptors in the body? Just because you stopped smoking does not mean the receptors reverted back to how they were.

No idea. I have never been a daily smoker (until quite recently) or even a very frequent smoker. At herfs I've always puffed like a chimney, but between herfs, my frequency used to be maybe once a week or so, if that. Then for quite some years, maybe once every few months.