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Old 06-18-2009, 09:34 AM   #1
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Enjoy life and don't worry about things being "bad" for you. Do what you like. Life is too short to worry so much.
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:40 AM   #2
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I figure that I'm going out one way or another, I'd rather go out smokin' a cigar!
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:46 AM   #3
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Everytime I see articles like that, I turn into Charlie Brown trying to listen to the teacher

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Old 06-18-2009, 10:25 AM   #4
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Enjoy cigars and life as much as you can, so many things are bad for us.
Life is to short enjoy every minute of it!
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Frankly, I will take the slightly heightened cancer risk associated with cigar smoking. The stress relief it gives me reduces my risk of my head exploding, so I feel I will live longer smoking cigars than I would if I did not.
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Old 06-18-2009, 02:24 PM   #6
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http://www.cigargroup.com/faq/health/

More interesting studies....
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Old 06-18-2009, 02:26 PM   #7
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Frankly, I will take the slightly heightened cancer risk associated with cigar smoking. The stress relief it gives me reduces my risk of my head exploding, so I feel I will live longer smoking cigars than I would if I did not.
For sure my friend. I believe that cigar smoking keeps me from becoming an alcoholic. Seriously.
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Old 06-18-2009, 02:35 PM   #8
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For sure my friend. I believe that cigar smoking keeps me from becoming an alcoholic. Seriously.
Me too, Dustin....not to mention a homicidal maniac.
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Old 06-18-2009, 02:54 PM   #9
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Frankly, I will take the slightly heightened cancer risk associated with cigar smoking. The stress relief it gives me reduces my risk of my head exploding, so I feel I will live longer smoking cigars than I would if I did not.
Exactly... well said, Tom.

Pseudo-science makes my butt itch.
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Exactly... well said, Tom.

Pseudo-science makes my butt itch.


I haven't been around the boards in a while so correct me if I'm wrong but ... doesn't your butt always itch?!

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Old 06-18-2009, 04:16 PM   #11
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Frankly, I will take the slightly heightened cancer risk associated with cigar smoking. The stress relief it gives me reduces my risk of my head exploding, so I feel I will live longer smoking cigars than I would if I did not.
Well put and very inline with my own thoughts. One of the rare times I feel totally relaxed and in my "zone" is at night on the porch or in my jacuzzi smoking a cigar.

Works better than the prozac my doctor prescribed.
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:17 PM   #12
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Frankly, I will take the slightly heightened cancer risk associated with cigar smoking. The stress relief it gives me reduces my risk of my head exploding, so I feel I will live longer smoking cigars than I would if I did not.

True, dat!
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:17 AM   #13
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Default Re: MSN.com article on the dangers of cigar smokin

There have been NUMEROUS studies done on cigar smoking and health over the years. I have a link at home with most of those studies and the conclusions listed.

The greatest majority of those studies come to similar conclusions. When talking about ONLY smoking cigars...no alcohol involved. There has been no direct correlation to cancers and smoking 3 or less cigars per day.

It has been shown though that moderate cigar smoking with alcohol abuse can indeed increase the risk of cancers...more of a risk than the alcohol abuse alone.

Also, cigarettes contain many more toxins...and despite less nicotine have a delivery system that allows nicotine to cross the blood brain barrier faster. There is no doubt from personal experience cigarettes are much more addictive. Even 4 cigarettes a day have been linked to numerous disease processes.

My opinion when it comes to cigar smoking...smoke like you should do everything else...in moderation. Even too much exercise has been linked to disease...too much water can kill you...and if you smoke 7-8 cigars a day you have to know that it isn't good for you.
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Old 06-19-2009, 10:39 AM   #14
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It has been shown though that moderate cigar smoking with alcohol abuse can indeed increase the risk of cancers...more of a risk than the alcohol abuse alone.
I've heard this correlation before. How is "alcohol abuse" defined?
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I've heard this correlation before. How is "alcohol abuse" defined?
Very good question. I will look again at the study when I get home but I don't believe it was defined. I would personally guess abuse is defined much like the C.A.G.E. questions for alcoholism assessment...which is 14 drinks/week. I do not know this as fact and I will check tommorow.
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Old 06-19-2009, 12:09 PM   #16
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Good read! I had no idea my cigars had so much wonderful Vitamin N!
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Old 06-18-2009, 03:15 PM   #17
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Regardless of how you feel about MSN, the fact that it originally ran in Parade magazine is the more damning fact in my mind.
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Old 06-18-2009, 04:29 PM   #18
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Regardless of how you feel about MSN, the fact that it originally ran in Parade magazine is the more damning fact in my mind.
But it's MSN that picked it up and ran with it. That is why I said it's typical. They do this all the time and they are not the only one. There are more editorials in the "news" today, than factual news. Edward R. Murrow is turning in his grave.

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Old 06-18-2009, 06:15 PM   #19
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I haven't been around the boards in a while so correct me if I'm wrong but ... doesn't your butt always itch?!

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No offense taken, Jonathan....it is a fairly regular occurrence.
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Old 06-18-2009, 06:23 PM   #20
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Default Re: MSN.com article on the dangers of cigar smokin

do these so called "Experts" realize that we breath this in every day. Every went to Africa or country's like that or a old car show, then you breathed in lead, carbon monoxide, CO2, and a bunch of other crap thats more toxic than cigar smoke.
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