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[jonumberone]

Originally Posted by BORIStheBLADE

So when GSP was fighting Hardy and had him in that arm bar he let it go because he wanted a 5 round fight?
I'm not defending GSP, but I do remember that fight.

Looking at his record the last couple of years he has no submissions, but I highly doubt he wants decision wins. Last submission was in 2007.

I couldn't agree more.

I was lucky enough to be ringside for GSP Hardy. How Hardy's arm didn't come completely off was a miracle. From where I was sitting you could actually see the torque on his arm. GSP also had Hardy in a kimora in round 4, again Kudos to hardy. GSP was trying to finish him!

In regards to Brock, He was put In with Mir the first time to make sure he wasn't a fluke ala James Toney and dominated that fight until he made a rookie mistake and got caught in a heel hook. He showed he could fight and earned himself another bout, He then dominated heath Herring. Perhaps a shot against Couture was premature, but he won! He then avenged his loss to Mir. Using Cro Cop isn't a good example. He won his first bout and then lost to a middle of the road fighter Gonzaga and a barely above average Kongo. When he was in against Junior Dos santos he quit on his feet!

In the end UFC is a business and people WANTED TO SEE BROCK FIGHT!
I believe UFC 100 is still the most watched PPV to date with over 1.5 million buys.

[jonumberone]

Boxing Judges are also appointed by their respective athletic commissions.
That never stopped them from issuing biased decisions.
One fight I was at immediately comes to mind.
Lennox lewis Holyfield 1
Lewis destroyed Evander and the fight was declared a draw.

Athletic commissions have a stake in the fighting company's success.
when organizations like the UFC bring fights to their towns it usually is a big boost to the economy.
It's the old you scratch my back I scratch yours routine.

[goalie204]

I couldn't agree more that the judging is b.s. That said, if you don't want to go to the judges, either finish the fight, or win decisively like GSP

[jonumberone]

I think all fighters want to finish their fights. Why fight for 25 min when you can fight for 2 and make the same $?
I agree GSP didn't take any chances against Kos, but he didn't have to. He also didn't dance or make Kos follow him around the octagon, he stood toe to toe, right in front of him, and fought!

Let's not forget Kos got his title shot by taking down Paul Daley and dry humping him for 3 rounds.

[Bill86]

Originally Posted by jonumberone

I think all fighters want to finish their fights. Why fight for 25 min when you can fight for 2 and make the same $?
I agree GSP didn't take any chances against Kos, but he didn't have to. He also didn't dance or make Kos follow him around the octagon, he stood toe to toe, right in front of him, and fought!

Let's not forget Kos got his title shot by taking down Paul Daley and dry humping him for 3 rounds.

Agreed.

I haven't even seen the fight but Koscheck has made his career by dry humping other fighters for 3-5 rounds.

I also agree most fighters do want to finish their fights but some of them do also want to grind out the decision. Lyoto Machida and Koscheck come to mind. They don't want to take any chances or really even fight they just want to pad their record with "wins". Then again they really aren't fighters so Dom is absolutely 100% correct.

[goalie204]

HOLY **** AT THAT WEC MAIN EVENT - THAT wAS THE GREATEST MOVE EVER IN MMA

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[wayner123]

Originally Posted by goalie204

HOLY **** AT THAT WEC MAIN EVENT - THAT wAS THE GREATEST MOVE EVER IN MMA

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Still went to decision...


But awesome move nonetheless. I still think Spencer Fisher's flying knee on Matt Wiman was one of the craziest moves I have seen. Wiman wanted a freakin timeout, LOL

[ActionAndy]

I almost puked when I saw Pettis do that. I was overwhelmed with raditude. And then Ben "Kind of a Tool If You Think About It" henderson has to act like a crybaby after the fight. "I dunno, the judges gave it to him, whatever." Oh they gave it to him? Couldn't we rephrase that Bendo? Didn't YOU give it to him--by getting dropped?

[goalie204]

Originally Posted by ActionAndy

I almost puked when I saw Pettis do that. I was overwhelmed with raditude. And then Ben "Kind of a Tool If You Think About It" henderson has to act like a crybaby after the fight. "I dunno, the judges gave it to him, whatever." Oh they gave it to him? Couldn't we rephrase that Bendo? Didn't YOU give it to him--by getting dropped?

Totally agree. F*$% Ben Henderson and his praise jesus bullsh1t. Sore loser little b1tch, hope he gets decimated in the ufc

That Kick was so pro!

Originally Posted by wayner123

Still went to decision...

wtf cares if it went to a decision, that was fight of the year for sure.

[J0eybb]

Originally Posted by goalie204

Totally agree. F*$% Ben Henderson and his praise jesus bullsh1t. Sore loser little b1tch, hope he gets decimated in the ufc

That Kick was so pro!



wtf cares if it went to a decision, that was fight of the year for sure.

Not quite

Ive heard other people say that was a great fight too. But other than that kick I wasn't to impressed. I would be concerned about their ability to finish and some other technical points in their game. Lets see how they do against stronger competition. IMO there was a LW Brazilian on the undercard who made his WEC debut that night that could be better than both those guys.

[goalie204]

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[goalie204]

pretty good ufc last night, hope brandon vera gets cut

[forgop]

Originally Posted by goalie204

pretty good ufc last night, hope brandon vera gets cut

I like Vera, but he didn't do very well last night for sure.

The Edgar/Maynard fight was very good, but I was really puzzled how one judge scored it 48-46 for Edgar. I can agree with the other 2 scores, but 48-46 Edgar? Seriously after the pounding he took in round 1? He came back and won some rounds, but I don't think there's any way he should have been up by 2 points like that.

[BORIStheBLADE]

I can't believe Edgar didn't get knocked out that first round!

[Ken]

Originally Posted by forgop

The Edgar/Maynard fight was very good, but I was really puzzled how one judge scored it 48-46 for Edgar.

I'm with you on this scoring. Give Edgar credit for surviving but I'm not sure how he could have received 48-46 in any round. The fight as a whole I didn't care for.

[J0eybb]

Frankie Edgar, Brandon Vera, Marcus Davis and Phil Baroni all received lengthy suspensions due to nasal fractures.


10-8, first round. Then Edgar winning the next 4. 48-46 Edgar. If you give Maynard Rd3 then 47-47. If he wins the 5th rd also, 48-46 Maynard.

I personally had it 47-47, unless they gave him a 10-7 first round. It's pretty rare for NSAC to give a 10-7 though.

[goalie204]

baroni is also cut from the ufc

[goalie204]

The Nevada State Athletic Commission has released the pay day information for UFC 125: Resolution. Lightweight champion Frankie Edgar ($102,000) and light heavyweight Thiago Silva ($110,000) led the pack.

The total pay out was $872,000.

The UFC sold 12,688 tickets for a $2,174,780 live gate.

The pay per view is expected to be in the lower range for UFC events with MMA Payout predicting about 400,000 buys. It's entirely possible the event exceeded PPV expectations.

Full fighter pay information in the full entry via MMA Mania.


Frankie Edgar -- $102,000 ($51,000 to show, $51,000 to win)
Gray Maynard -- $52,000 ($26,000 to show, $26,000 to win)
Edgar and Maynard fought to a five-round draw

Brian Stann -- $42,000 ($21,000 to show, $21,000 to win)
Chris Leben -- $46,000
Stann def. Leben via technical knockout

Thiago Silva -- $110,000 ($55,000 to show, $55,000 to win)
Brandon Vera -- $60,000
Silva def. Vera via unanimous decision

Dong Hyun Kim -- $70,000 ($35,000 to show, $35,000 to win)
Nate Diaz -- $33,000
Kim def. Diaz via unanimous decision

Clay Guida -- $62,000 ($31,000 to show, $31,000 to win)
Takanori Gomi -- $50,000
Guida def. Gomi via submission (guillotine choke)

Dustin Poirier -- $8,000 ($4,000 to show, $4,000 to win)
Josh Grispi -- $15,000
Poirier def. Grispi via unanimous decision

Brad Tavares -- $16,000 ($8,000 to show, $8,000 to win)
Phil Baroni -- $25,000
Tavares def. Baroni via knockout

Jacob Volkmann -- $24,000 ($12,000 to show, $12,000 to win)
Antonio McKee -- $15,000
Volkmann def. McKee via split decision

Jeremy Stephens -- $36,000 ($18,000 to show, $18,000 to win)
Marcus Davis -- $31,000
Stephens def. Davis via knockout

Diego Nunes -- $20,000 ($10,000 to show, $10,000 to win)
Mike Brown -- $23,000
Nunes def. Brown via split decision

Daniel Roberts -- $24,000 ($12,000 to show, $12,000 to win)
Greg Soto -- $8,000
Roberts def. Soto via submission (Kimura)

[dannysguitar]

Is anyone as excited about UFC 126 as I am!?!?!