Roku and similar devices

markem · 11-29-2019, 11:45 AM

Netflix has informed us that it will soon not work on our bluray player. It is great for movies we own so we aren't interested in replacing it. But this opens a possibility...

The only devices that I know about for streaming are roku and amazon's thing. I know nothing about either and am starting my research. I have a couple for questions for the masses and hope that someone can chime in with experience.

Are either of them good? I head that amazon's will do 4K. Will the roku? Will they do netflix? Also, can I get an affordable sports package without having to buy a lot of other crap?

I have fast wireless in the house and FIOS upstream, so am not worried about connectivity issues. I do not have a place for a wired connection near the tv.

Advice would be greatly appreciated!

jonumberone · 11-29-2019, 11:53 AM

Mark, do you have FIOS as your cable provider?
In Jersey I can watch Netflix from my FIOS box.

markem · 11-29-2019, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone

Mark, do you have FIOS as your cable provider?
In Jersey I can watch Netflix from my FIOS box.

I do, Dom. Netflix is saying that they won't support my device anymore (the bluray player that also connects to the internet). I have to buy a new device if we want to still get netflix. As long as we are going down this route, I thought I would consider more options. We haven't had real tv for several years. I don't really miss it except for some sports.

The Poet · 11-29-2019, 12:30 PM

In general the "experts" consider Roku to be the best device amongst the common ones available (Fire, Chromecast, etc.). I have a cheap Roku hooked up to my Samsung TV as the built in smart app pretty much sucks. The Roku is vastly better.

As for 4K, that is a more complex issue. Do you have a 4K TV. If not, there is really no point in caring. Do you have access to sources for 4K signals? This is growing in availability, but if you do not have a streaming service which provides it, or a 4K deck and discs you again need not care. Finally, and more subjectively, are you really discerning enough to see the difference between 4K and regular HD, and if so do you truly care? I can answer none of these questions for you, and can only pose them.

As for 4K with Roku, a quick search showed me that at least the higher-end Rokus, like the Ultra, do provide 4K for you . . . at least according to what Roku says. It should be simple enough to do more extensive research into this. Google is your friend, and Bing is good too.

The Poet · 11-29-2019, 01:27 PM

From Roku site:

https://www.roku.com/products/players

markem · 11-29-2019, 01:42 PM

Thank you for teaching the professor of computer science about google.

I wasn't asking where to find manufacturer information on Roku devices, I was asking about people's experience with such devices. I do appreciate you trying, though. Thanks!

Black Coral · 11-29-2019, 01:44 PM

I have the amazon with 4K and does Netflix

You have my number call and can explain how we have done sports packages on it.

The Poet · 11-29-2019, 01:49 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gi9zFRBCIM

Wharf Rat · 11-29-2019, 02:37 PM

I have the Roku Streaming Stick + on 3 different TVs and it works very well. It offers Netflix tho I am not a subscriber. Personally, I use it for YoutubeTV, Amazon Prime and CBS all access. They work well.

There are many other channels, free or paid, available. There are also unofficial channels that a computer scientist may be able to find.

kydsid · 11-29-2019, 02:41 PM

We went all in on firetv devices when we cut the cable TV. I did that because of the fire recast integration. I had orders from the wife to keep a DVR for over the air stuff she likes. I could have also done any number of other DVRs but needed ease of use for wife and kids. Also decided on fire devices because of channel guide integration with some of the itv providers. We picked up Philo and Pluto. The fire allows one channel guide for all of them. Saving about $90 a month over dish this way.

Only problem I find with the fire devices is that they are sensitive to wifi signal strength. Especially the 4k stick. It'll act up with out good to excellent signal strength.

markem · 11-29-2019, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Coral

I have the amazon with 4K and does Netflix

You have my number call and can explain how we have done sports packages on it.

Cool! Thank you, John!

CigarNut · 11-29-2019, 05:33 PM

I have had a Roku device before and been very happy. I gave the Roku to my son and picked up an Apple TV box for myself. It’s not a cheap alternative. It’s probably the most costly.

But, if you have an iPhone or iPad it integrates well with those devices. It’s also nice if you decide to get Apple TV+. You can load apps on to the Apple TV box for Netflix, Hulu, Vudo, DirecTV, Amazon Prime, YouTube, etc., so you can still watch everything from one interface.

I’m not trying to tell you that it’s the best device out there, but it is well built, well maintained and easy to use.

Just my

G G · 11-29-2019, 06:08 PM

I started many years ago with Roku and was happy with them for Netflix, and Hulu. About 3 years ago I switched to Firesticks and like them better. They will do Netflix of course but I don't have any subscriptions any more except AT&T TV Now, which was DirecTV Now until recently. We have a big discount on the service since we are longtime AT&T wireless customers with an unlimited plan. I also use Kodi on the Firesticks, with an app for Kodi called Exodus and Exodus Redux. You can pretty much stream almost every TV show and Movie on the planet. I reckon it's questionable whether it's legal or not. I happen to know one of our DSL providers tech's and he has always told me they could care less what I stream.

bonjing · 11-29-2019, 07:21 PM

Mark I have both the Roku ultra and the roku 3. The ultra does 4K according to my tv, meaning it activates the HDR, visually I can’t tell the difference even though I like it and think it makes a difference. I have no experience with Apple TV but I do have an older fire stick. The roku seems to process much faster. Down side is if you have a Dolby atmos system Netflix does not process through it yet. But it does pass activate my atmos through amazon and Disney movies.

The only sports app I downloaded on the Roku was nbcbayarea to watch the Warriors.

If you want I have a refurb Roku 3 thats just sitting at home if you want to play with it to see if you like it. Just drop me a pm it’s not a roku stick it’s the boxy style one.

markem · 11-29-2019, 08:29 PM

Thank you, Greg, Michael, and Greg! That is just the sort of information that I am looking for. I'd love to borrow the Roku 3, Greg. I'll send you a PM!

Sauer Grapes · 11-29-2019, 08:41 PM

If you go amazon, don’t get the stick. Get the more expensive one. The stick is slow and frustrating.

markem · 11-29-2019, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes

If you go amazon, don’t get the stick. Get the more expensive one. The stick is slow and frustrating.

Thank you. I've read a few statements like this today on review sites as well.

G G · 11-30-2019, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markem

Thank you. I've read a few statements like this today on review sites as well.

I have the firestick 4k, and don't really have any issues with it being slow. But then again I had the generation before that too and it didn't give me any problems. I only have 100 mbps down and 10 mbps up, so maybe I am just lucky.

mosesbotbol · 12-02-2019, 12:53 PM

I have an nVidia Shield and it's really good. A little more expensive than some of the other options, but still quite cheap. Might as well go for the more powerful ones. Apple TV is also quite recommended.

LasciviousXXX · 12-04-2019, 05:05 PM

We have 2 roku players. One is the 4k snazzy one we keep in our living room for all our streaming stuff. LOVE it. Have had amazon fire sticks and used our UHD bluray player for streaming. This is our preferred method.

We also have one of the entry level roku sticks in our guest house, which we rent out as an Airbnb. No complaints from folks yet.

BIG Roku fan!

11-29-2019, 11:45 AM	#1
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,625 Trading: (47)	Roku and similar devices Netflix has informed us that it will soon not work on our bluray player. It is great for movies we own so we aren't interested in replacing it. But this opens a possibility... The only devices that I know about for streaming are roku and amazon's thing. I know nothing about either and am starting my research. I have a couple for questions for the masses and hope that someone can chime in with experience. Are either of them good? I head that amazon's will do 4K. Will the roku? Will they do netflix? Also, can I get an affordable sports package without having to buy a lot of other crap? I have fast wireless in the house and FIOS upstream, so am not worried about connectivity issues. I do not have a place for a wired connection near the tv. Advice would be greatly appreciated! __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

11-29-2019, 11:53 AM	#2
jonumberone Raw Dog Join Date: Jun 2010 First Name: Dom Location: Exit 8A Posts: 6,484 Trading: (62)	Re: Roku and similar devices Mark, do you have FIOS as your cable provider? In Jersey I can watch Netflix from my FIOS box. __________________ Sex junkie looking for a dealer

11-29-2019, 12:30 PM	#4
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: Roku and similar devices In general the "experts" consider Roku to be the best device amongst the common ones available (Fire, Chromecast, etc.). I have a cheap Roku hooked up to my Samsung TV as the built in smart app pretty much sucks. The Roku is vastly better. As for 4K, that is a more complex issue. Do you have a 4K TV. If not, there is really no point in caring. Do you have access to sources for 4K signals? This is growing in availability, but if you do not have a streaming service which provides it, or a 4K deck and discs you again need not care. Finally, and more subjectively, are you really discerning enough to see the difference between 4K and regular HD, and if so do you truly care? I can answer none of these questions for you, and can only pose them. As for 4K with Roku, a quick search showed me that at least the higher-end Rokus, like the Ultra, do provide 4K for you . . . at least according to what Roku says. It should be simple enough to do more extensive research into this. Google is your friend, and Bing is good too. __________________ Ninety percent of everything is crap - Theodore Sturgeon.

11-29-2019, 01:27 PM	#5
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: Roku and similar devices From Roku site: https://www.roku.com/products/players __________________ Ninety percent of everything is crap - Theodore Sturgeon.

11-29-2019, 01:42 PM	#6
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,625 Trading: (47)	Re: Roku and similar devices Thank you for teaching the professor of computer science about google. I wasn't asking where to find manufacturer information on Roku devices, I was asking about people's experience with such devices. I do appreciate you trying, though. Thanks! __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

11-29-2019, 01:44 PM	#7
Black Coral Have My Own Room Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: John Location: Midland Texas Posts: 2,265 Trading: (11)	Re: Roku and similar devices I have the amazon with 4K and does Netflix You have my number call and can explain how we have done sports packages on it.

11-29-2019, 01:49 PM	#8
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: Roku and similar devices https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gi9zFRBCIM __________________ Ninety percent of everything is crap - Theodore Sturgeon.

11-29-2019, 02:37 PM	#9
Wharf Rat I'll get up and fly away Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bob Location: Florence, SC Posts: 787 Trading: (7)	Re: Roku and similar devices I have the Roku Streaming Stick + on 3 different TVs and it works very well. It offers Netflix tho I am not a subscriber. Personally, I use it for YoutubeTV, Amazon Prime and CBS all access. They work well. There are many other channels, free or paid, available. There are also unofficial channels that a computer scientist may be able to find.

11-29-2019, 02:41 PM	#10
kydsid Ditat Deus Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Jason Location: Among the Pines Posts: 2,361 Trading: (46)	Re: Roku and similar devices We went all in on firetv devices when we cut the cable TV. I did that because of the fire recast integration. I had orders from the wife to keep a DVR for over the air stuff she likes. I could have also done any number of other DVRs but needed ease of use for wife and kids. Also decided on fire devices because of channel guide integration with some of the itv providers. We picked up Philo and Pluto. The fire allows one channel guide for all of them. Saving about $90 a month over dish this way. Only problem I find with the fire devices is that they are sensitive to wifi signal strength. Especially the 4k stick. It'll act up with out good to excellent signal strength. __________________ Check out the Cigar Asylum Newbie Sampler Trade

11-29-2019, 05:33 PM	#12
CigarNut Fck Cancer! Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Michael Location: Clermont, Florida Posts: 18,042 Trading: (111*)	Re: Roku and similar devices I have had a Roku device before and been very happy. I gave the Roku to my son and picked up an Apple TV box for myself. It’s not a cheap alternative. It’s probably the most costly. But, if you have an iPhone or iPad it integrates well with those devices. It’s also nice if you decide to get Apple TV+. You can load apps on to the Apple TV box for Netflix, Hulu, Vudo, DirecTV, Amazon Prime, YouTube, etc., so you can still watch everything from one interface. I’m not trying to tell you that it’s the best device out there, but it is well built, well maintained and easy to use. Just my __________________ Need Beads? Need Five Finger Bags? 2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/ participation in trade (trader rating). New members can be added at any time.

11-29-2019, 06:08 PM	#13
G G BR549 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Taylor, FL. Posts: 12,730 Trading: (10)	Re: Roku and similar devices I started many years ago with Roku and was happy with them for Netflix, and Hulu. About 3 years ago I switched to Firesticks and like them better. They will do Netflix of course but I don't have any subscriptions any more except AT&T TV Now, which was DirecTV Now until recently. We have a big discount on the service since we are longtime AT&T wireless customers with an unlimited plan. I also use Kodi on the Firesticks, with an app for Kodi called Exodus and Exodus Redux. You can pretty much stream almost every TV show and Movie on the planet. I reckon it's questionable whether it's legal or not. I happen to know one of our DSL providers tech's and he has always told me they could care less what I stream.

11-29-2019, 07:21 PM	#14
bonjing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,012 Trading: (39)	Re: Roku and similar devices Mark I have both the Roku ultra and the roku 3. The ultra does 4K according to my tv, meaning it activates the HDR, visually I can’t tell the difference even though I like it and think it makes a difference. I have no experience with Apple TV but I do have an older fire stick. The roku seems to process much faster. Down side is if you have a Dolby atmos system Netflix does not process through it yet. But it does pass activate my atmos through amazon and Disney movies. The only sports app I downloaded on the Roku was nbcbayarea to watch the Warriors. If you want I have a refurb Roku 3 thats just sitting at home if you want to play with it to see if you like it. Just drop me a pm it’s not a roku stick it’s the boxy style one. __________________ Be Excellent to Each Other - Bill & Ted

11-29-2019, 08:29 PM	#15
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,625 Trading: (47)	Re: Roku and similar devices Thank you, Greg, Michael, and Greg! That is just the sort of information that I am looking for. I'd love to borrow the Roku 3, Greg. I'll send you a PM! __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

11-29-2019, 08:41 PM	#16
Sauer Grapes Snatchin' yo people up Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,235 Trading: (44)	Re: Roku and similar devices If you go amazon, don’t get the stick. Get the more expensive one. The stick is slow and frustrating.

12-02-2019, 12:53 PM	#19
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Roku and similar devices I have an nVidia Shield and it's really good. A little more expensive than some of the other options, but still quite cheap. Might as well go for the more powerful ones. Apple TV is also quite recommended. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

12-04-2019, 05:05 PM	#20
LasciviousXXX Team of 11...Always Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Týr Location: New Orleans Posts: 4,579 Trading: (8)	Re: Roku and similar devices We have 2 roku players. One is the 4k snazzy one we keep in our living room for all our streaming stuff. LOVE it. Have had amazon fire sticks and used our UHD bluray player for streaming. This is our preferred method. We also have one of the entry level roku sticks in our guest house, which we rent out as an Airbnb. No complaints from folks yet. BIG Roku fan!