Rehabing and estate

sikk50 · 11-05-2014, 06:11 PM

Recently I've really decided I enjoy pipes! I thought to add to my hobby experience I'd start buying estate pipes cheap and rehabbing them. Easy enough right?

Well I got this one, and the coating is done for sure, but more interestingly it has light sprinkles of red paint. They are raised, on the briar and at the stem. Almost like someone carelessly was cleaning a paintbrush near by and misted it.

The stem is easy enough to clean. But what do I do about the briar? Sand it with fine grit sandpaper? What type of coating to I put on it after? Just that carnuba was? Or is there a certain stain too??

shilala · 11-05-2014, 08:18 PM

Being a pipefitter I can fix any kind of pipes. Plus I've been to rehab, but these pipes for smoking tobacco, I have no clue.
I'm looking forward to seeing what you find out, Andy.
Good to see you around, my brother!!!

WaRevo · 11-05-2014, 10:33 PM

At times I dislike my Laptop. I have started this reply like 2 times now..... Maybe 3rd time will be the Charm...

First off, A little bit of help with Pictures would be great.......

Second there are a few factors in restore repair and I don't know how much is needed to be told here so I will just say all that is in my mind and with any luck it will help you out some....

First I am not an Expert nor do I do Pro Restorations.

Depending on how bad the pipe is and how much you want to take down the finish that is already on the pipe. If you go down to the Naked Brair is going to depend on how deep the stain was on there to begin with. May want to go as far as 150 grit to get to wood if needed. Then go up to 320, 400, 600, 1000 and finish with 1500. Once your done or you think your done check your sanding job with a jewelers loupe or something to check the fine grain. Once you are happy with sanding then you can Stain it if you want to, Or you can keep it natural as some people do. Take the trip buff and wax. There is another part you can do after wax but that is up to you and some just stay with the wax at the end. It will dull over time an will need to be touched up.

If you are going to stain it?! there are a couple different type Water and Alcohol based. if you use water based just make sure that it is dry before you start sanding. IF you are going to use 2 colors, I think the Alcohol based is faster as you can burn it off to dry. Sand and may need to buff some to help even out the stain some. Sanding between 1000 and 1500grit staining for pulling out the briars grain.

I don't know but is said if using water based it can pull out the grains and may make a deep color. Some use both water and Alcohol stains on the same pipe depending on the pipe grain and the results your looking for.....

Once you get your stain where you want it and final sanding then buff with White diamond and Wax.

Just remember while working around the stem area not to sand off to much of the briar.

I am not an Expert or claim to be one. Just some info to help aid in your hobby.

Maybe there will be others that are pro or have been doing them longer then I have to give some Advice better then mine.

Good Luck I would love to see pictures of your pipe before and after...

Thank you
James

MarkinAZ · 11-05-2014, 11:01 PM

Andrew, do you have a photo or two that you could post up for review?

sikk50 · 11-09-2014, 10:27 AM

Where do I get carnauba wax? I can't seem to find it anywhere except in car supplies

MarkinAZ · 11-09-2014, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sikk50

Where do I get carnauba wax? I can't seem to find it anywhere except in car supplies

Andrew, here's a company up in Novato, CA called Fine Pipes International. I've used them and great customer service and shipping:

Use the Paragon wax if you have a smooth bowl.
http://www.finepipes.com/accessories...-the-pipe-1-oz

Use the Halcyon II if you have a sandblasted or rusticated bowl.
http://www.finepipes.com/accessories/halcyon-ii-wax

The Halcyon II flows better into the nooks and crannies of a sandblasted or rusticated bowl.

Both are easy to work with

MarkinAZ · 11-09-2014, 11:27 AM

And, both waxes can be used on the stems too

Subvet642 · 11-09-2014, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkinCA

Andrew, here's a company up in Novato, CA called Fine Pipes International. I've used them and great customer service and shipping:

Use the Paragon wax if you have a smooth bowl.
http://www.finepipes.com/accessories...-the-pipe-1-oz

Use the Halcyon II if you have a sandblasted or rusticated bowl.
http://www.finepipes.com/accessories/halcyon-ii-wax

The Halcyon II flows better into the nooks and crannies of a sandblasted or rusticated bowl.

Both are easy to work with

I've only used the Halcyon II and I love it. It is so easy to use, I apply more coats whenever I have a few minutes. I have a mix of rusticated and smooth so I figured that I'd only buy one. I think I want to try the Paragon, now.

sikk50 · 11-09-2014, 12:38 PM

Thank you Mark!

11-05-2014, 06:11 PM	#1
sikk50 Just Bored Really... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Jefferson State Posts: 2,084 Trading: (13)	Rehabing and estate Recently I've really decided I enjoy pipes! I thought to add to my hobby experience I'd start buying estate pipes cheap and rehabbing them. Easy enough right? Well I got this one, and the coating is done for sure, but more interestingly it has light sprinkles of red paint. They are raised, on the briar and at the stem. Almost like someone carelessly was cleaning a paintbrush near by and misted it. The stem is easy enough to clean. But what do I do about the briar? Sand it with fine grit sandpaper? What type of coating to I put on it after? Just that carnuba was? Or is there a certain stain too?? __________________ "Not a Headache in a Hogshead"

11-05-2014, 08:18 PM	#2
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Rehabing and estate Being a pipefitter I can fix any kind of pipes. Plus I've been to rehab, but these pipes for smoking tobacco, I have no clue. I'm looking forward to seeing what you find out, Andy. Good to see you around, my brother!!! __________________

11-05-2014, 10:33 PM	#3
WaRevo Still Watching My Back Join Date: Aug 2014 First Name: James Location: North Central Oregon Posts: 172 Trading: (2)	Re: Rehabing and estate At times I dislike my Laptop. I have started this reply like 2 times now..... Maybe 3rd time will be the Charm... First off, A little bit of help with Pictures would be great....... Second there are a few factors in restore repair and I don't know how much is needed to be told here so I will just say all that is in my mind and with any luck it will help you out some.... First I am not an Expert nor do I do Pro Restorations. Depending on how bad the pipe is and how much you want to take down the finish that is already on the pipe. If you go down to the Naked Brair is going to depend on how deep the stain was on there to begin with. May want to go as far as 150 grit to get to wood if needed. Then go up to 320, 400, 600, 1000 and finish with 1500. Once your done or you think your done check your sanding job with a jewelers loupe or something to check the fine grain. Once you are happy with sanding then you can Stain it if you want to, Or you can keep it natural as some people do. Take the trip buff and wax. There is another part you can do after wax but that is up to you and some just stay with the wax at the end. It will dull over time an will need to be touched up. If you are going to stain it?! there are a couple different type Water and Alcohol based. if you use water based just make sure that it is dry before you start sanding. IF you are going to use 2 colors, I think the Alcohol based is faster as you can burn it off to dry. Sand and may need to buff some to help even out the stain some. Sanding between 1000 and 1500grit staining for pulling out the briars grain. I don't know but is said if using water based it can pull out the grains and may make a deep color. Some use both water and Alcohol stains on the same pipe depending on the pipe grain and the results your looking for..... Once you get your stain where you want it and final sanding then buff with White diamond and Wax. Just remember while working around the stem area not to sand off to much of the briar. I am not an Expert or claim to be one. Just some info to help aid in your hobby. Maybe there will be others that are pro or have been doing them longer then I have to give some Advice better then mine. Good Luck I would love to see pictures of your pipe before and after... Thank you James

11-05-2014, 11:01 PM	#4
MarkinAZ Formerly MarkinOR Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Sun City West, AZ Posts: 6,221 Trading: (40)	Re: Rehabing and estate Andrew, do you have a photo or two that you could post up for review? __________________ "Don't worry, God will work out His plan for your life..." Psalm 138 8

11-09-2014, 10:27 AM	#5
sikk50 Just Bored Really... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Jefferson State Posts: 2,084 Trading: (13)	Re: Rehabing and estate Where do I get carnauba wax? I can't seem to find it anywhere except in car supplies __________________ "Not a Headache in a Hogshead"

11-09-2014, 11:27 AM	#7
MarkinAZ Formerly MarkinOR Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Sun City West, AZ Posts: 6,221 Trading: (40)	Re: Rehabing and estate And, both waxes can be used on the stems too __________________ "Don't worry, God will work out His plan for your life..." Psalm 138 8

11-09-2014, 12:38 PM	#9
sikk50 Just Bored Really... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Jefferson State Posts: 2,084 Trading: (13)	Re: Rehabing and estate Thank you Mark! __________________ "Not a Headache in a Hogshead"