Boveda Packs Regeneration

shilala · 03-14-2014, 01:34 PM

I use a lot of 65% Boveda packs. I often find them rock hard among "stuff".
A couple weeks ago I found two, and I'd always guessed I could soak them in water to juice them up again, so I tried it.
It works just fine. No need for distilled water because dissolved solids can't pass through the membrane, anyways. There's just salt solutions in them to begin with, so there's no "right amount of water" to worry about, either. It's pretty awesome.

Awhile back I looked around to see if I could find some semi-permeable membrane of some sort to make big Boveda packs for my stuff. I never did leg it out, I got drawed off. I need to get back to that.

stearns · 03-14-2014, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala

Awhile back I looked around to see if I could find some semi-permeable membrane of some sort to make big Boveda packs for my stuff. I never did leg it out, I got drawed off. I need to get back to that.

Please do, I'll be your test subject, you dont even have to pay me very much

hotreds · 03-14-2014, 01:48 PM

I tried it also, but it seemed to turn the membrane yellow and make it very weak. I was afraid of it busting and ruining stogies.

Subvet642 · 03-14-2014, 01:50 PM

I recharge my Boveda packs all the time. I just put them in a tupperware with a cup of water such that they don't get wet, and close it up. In a week, charged packs.

T.G · 03-14-2014, 01:56 PM

I've been recharging the boveda packs for years using basically the same method as Darren described, put them in a tupperware with a wet sponge and seal it up for a while.

I did recently toss one of the small wet-nap ones into a container of water to see what would happen, the labels/outer "paper" fell off within 24 hours, then it eventually expanded to about the size of a golf ball.

shilala · 03-14-2014, 01:57 PM

I just went and looked some more, I can't find any kind of membrane aside from dialysis stuff. Latex might work, dunno. I suppose I'll have to go search permeability by size.
It's not fun so far. I bet that's why I stopped looking before.

These big packs have been soaking for a couple weeks, at least. They haven't degraded a lick.

T.G · 03-14-2014, 02:02 PM

I dunno Scott. I used RO water rather than tap, but I can't see that making a difference. Maybe the two sizes use different materials for the outer layer? This was one of the white colored packs if that helps any.

Porch Dweller · 03-14-2014, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Subvet642

I recharge my Boveda packs all the time. I just put them in a tupperware with a cup of water such that they don't get wet, and close it up. In a week, charged packs.

shilala · 03-14-2014, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

I dunno Scott. I used RO water rather than tap, but I can't see that making a difference. Maybe the two sizes use different materials for the outer layer? This was one of the white colored packs if that helps any.

No clue at all. I bet you're right, though. The white ones seem different. I have the brown paper ones.

EricF · 03-14-2014, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Subvet642

I recharge my Boveda packs all the time. I just put them in a tupperware with a cup of water such that they don't get wet, and close it up. In a week, charged packs.

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Originally Posted by Porch Dweller

^^^This^^^

shilala · 03-14-2014, 07:06 PM

I figured out what I can use to make packs. Now I just have to find some and this is a party. I'm looking forward to messing around with it. I already tested umpteen saturated salt solutions for use with SAP, but it all sucks cause the salt crawls all over. The only way to hold it in is pvc.

Wharf Rat · 03-14-2014, 07:13 PM

Take a look at the humi bags on this page. I just got some of these in a shipment from Atlantic. It's apparently what you want, built into a plastic bag.

http://www.sikarlan.com/OTHERS.htm

T.G · 03-15-2014, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

No clue at all. I bet you're right, though. The white ones seem different. I have the brown paper ones.

Here are some photos. If there is anything on it that you want examined or a closer shot of, LMK.

Subvet642 · 03-15-2014, 11:07 AM

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Here are some photos. If there is anything on it that you want examined or a closer shot of, LMK.

Adam, in that state, do they still maintain their set rh?

mk05 · 03-15-2014, 11:30 AM

I just dunk the Boveda in water until it gets squishy again. Must have done it at least 5 times per bag. Works better with bigger ones.

T.G · 03-15-2014, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Subvet642

Adam, in that state, do they still maintain their set rh?

I haven't bothered to check yet, so I'll have to test one and get back to you.

Subvet642 · 03-15-2014, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

I haven't bothered to check yet, so I'll have to test one and get back to you.

Thanks. I would imagine that the salt concentration must have a lot to do with performance.

hotreds · 03-15-2014, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mk05

I just dunk the Boveda in water until it gets squishy again. Must have done it at least 5 times per bag. Works better with bigger ones.

I'll hafta try that, I have quite a few of these. Does it matter how hard they've gotten, or should they still have some "squish" to them?

longknocker · 03-15-2014, 05:12 PM

I regenerate mine, too. I also wonder if The RH is accurate after this.

BlkDrew · 03-15-2014, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds

I'll hafta try that, I have quite a few of these. Does it matter how hard they've gotten, or should they still have some "squish" to them?

It will regenerate from completely crisp.

03-14-2014, 01:34 PM	#1
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Boveda Packs Regeneration I use a lot of 65% Boveda packs. I often find them rock hard among "stuff". A couple weeks ago I found two, and I'd always guessed I could soak them in water to juice them up again, so I tried it. It works just fine. No need for distilled water because dissolved solids can't pass through the membrane, anyways. There's just salt solutions in them to begin with, so there's no "right amount of water" to worry about, either. It's pretty awesome. Awhile back I looked around to see if I could find some semi-permeable membrane of some sort to make big Boveda packs for my stuff. I never did leg it out, I got drawed off. I need to get back to that. __________________

03-14-2014, 01:48 PM	#3
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,665 Trading: (63)	Re: Boveda Packs Regeneration I tried it also, but it seemed to turn the membrane yellow and make it very weak. I was afraid of it busting and ruining stogies. __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

03-14-2014, 01:50 PM	#4
Subvet642 Bilge Rat Join Date: Nov 2009 First Name: Darren Location: Torpedo Room Bilge Posts: 2,997 Trading: (13)	Re: Boveda Packs Regeneration I recharge my Boveda packs all the time. I just put them in a tupperware with a cup of water such that they don't get wet, and close it up. In a week, charged packs. __________________ *"Man's mind is his basic tool of survival. Life is given to him, survival is not." -John Galt*

03-14-2014, 01:56 PM	#5
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,557 Trading: (37)	Re: Boveda Packs Regeneration I've been recharging the boveda packs for years using basically the same method as Darren described, put them in a tupperware with a wet sponge and seal it up for a while. I did recently toss one of the small wet-nap ones into a container of water to see what would happen, the labels/outer "paper" fell off within 24 hours, then it eventually expanded to about the size of a golf ball.

03-14-2014, 01:57 PM	#6
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Boveda Packs Regeneration I just went and looked some more, I can't find any kind of membrane aside from dialysis stuff. Latex might work, dunno. I suppose I'll have to go search permeability by size. It's not fun so far. I bet that's why I stopped looking before. These big packs have been soaking for a couple weeks, at least. They haven't degraded a lick. __________________

03-14-2014, 02:02 PM	#7
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,557 Trading: (37)	Re: Boveda Packs Regeneration I dunno Scott. I used RO water rather than tap, but I can't see that making a difference. Maybe the two sizes use different materials for the outer layer? This was one of the white colored packs if that helps any.

03-14-2014, 07:06 PM	#11
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Boveda Packs Regeneration I figured out what I can use to make packs. Now I just have to find some and this is a party. I'm looking forward to messing around with it. I already tested umpteen saturated salt solutions for use with SAP, but it all sucks cause the salt crawls all over. The only way to hold it in is pvc. __________________

03-14-2014, 07:13 PM	#12
Wharf Rat I'll get up and fly away Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bob Location: Florence, SC Posts: 787 Trading: (7)	Re: Boveda Packs Regeneration Take a look at the humi bags on this page. I just got some of these in a shipment from Atlantic. It's apparently what you want, built into a plastic bag. http://www.sikarlan.com/OTHERS.htm

03-15-2014, 11:30 AM	#15
mk05 Have My Own Room Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,331 Trading: (2)	Re: Boveda Packs Regeneration I just dunk the Boveda in water until it gets squishy again. Must have done it at least 5 times per bag. Works better with bigger ones.

03-15-2014, 05:12 PM	#19
longknocker Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 11,174 Trading: (82)	Re: Boveda Packs Regeneration I regenerate mine, too. I also wonder if The RH is accurate after this.