2014 MLB Thread - Page 18

10-12-2014, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jonumberone

I'm not trying to pick on the Tigers or their GM, but every one of those guys is or was damaged goods.
Nathan probably had the best track record of the lot, but he's always been terrible in a big spot. Nathan has a bit of Trevor Hoffman in him.
Dombrowski signed players with a potential upside, but with just as big of a downside IMO.

I agree, those guys were signed on the downside. Of course it's easy to say after the fact, but Nathan was obvious to me.

10-12-2014, 11:04 AM

What's the consensus on Max Scherzer? Do the Tigers have room to sign him? I think they probably can but I'm not sure they do. They need to work out something with Price to avoid arbitration, and they also need*(at least I think so) to sign VMart. You look at their rotation without Max and you wonder if it's really necessary for them to offer a lucrative multi year contract to him. I guess what I'm saying is: Max sign with the White Sox!!

The Poet · 10-03-2014, 03:50 PM

Tigers get "Joba-ed" again. The only thing uglier than that beard is his 108.00 ERA.

kelmac07 · 10-03-2014, 03:56 PM

Can the Tigers bullpen really be that bad??

10-03-2014, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07

Can the Tigers bullpen really be that bad??

They've killed them a lot this year Mac.

10-03-2014, 05:26 PM

Cards and Dodgers game is going to be fun to watch⚾️

jonumberone · 10-03-2014, 04:05 PM

I remember Delmon Young killing the Yankees in October when he was on the Tigers.
Guess he hasn't lost his touch!

icehog3 · 10-03-2014, 05:55 PM

Tigers getting what they deserve, why would Ausmus come back with Jaba?

I could be a KC fan by Sunday night.

jonumberone · 10-06-2014, 05:27 AM

So far the Postseason has been great, but, my God, the managing has been awful.
.
The Tigers paid dearly for their managers mistakes.
Game 1, you go to your bullpen guys in their roles. I get it. But you can't go back to them in game 2
Dombrowski has to take a hit too.
His team is a perennial playoff competitor, but he's has the same problem every year.
The bullpen has been his Achilles heel.

I amazed Ned Yost even has a job in baseball. Iv'e never seen a manager that couldn't get out of his own way like this.
I have no idea how the Royals won 89 games, let alone 4 playoff games, with him at the helm.
I was glad to see the Royals move on. They also seem to hit a bit more than I thought, and the numbers suggest.
After watching them steal bases and bunt, down 4 runs in the 8th, against the A's, I didn't think they had any pop.
They scratched out the first 2 games, but they did manage to homer in them, and last night they decided to hit 2.

And Finally Matt Williams.
This guy probably made the worst postseason decision since Grady Little decided to leave Pedro in.
Was he watching Zimmerman pitch, or taking a nap in the clubhouse?

Sometimes I think the feel for the game is going out.
Managers today are so beholden to their stat sheets, lefty-lefty matchups and bullpen roles that they no longer see what's right in front of them.
Some of these guys, like Yost, when called upon to make a decision that isn't in their playbook have no idea how to improvise. We saw that with Ausmus too, when he went back to Joba.
It's the same nonsense they use to justify when they sit a hot bat against a pitcher he's struggled against in the past.
Stuff like that drives me crazy.

So, with the remaining teams left, I'm hoping for a KC - St. Louis World Series.
How about you?

gravel · 10-06-2014, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jonumberone

So, with the remaining teams left, I'm hoping for a KC - St. Louis World Series.
How about you?

SF - Bal.

Thats a lot of Orange and Black.

kelmac07 · 10-06-2014, 05:58 AM

All great points Dom. I'm waiting on the press conference to say the Tigers have fired Ausmus...HORRIBLE job. Don't have a clue what Williams was doing...Zimmerman is tossing a three hitter with two out in the 9th and you take him out. WTF????

As for KC, I love a scrappy team. And Baltimore has looked really good.

Although STL is a baseball machine, I'm sick of seeing them play in the Fall Classic, but not so sure the Dodgers can hold them off.

Always good to see different teams in the post season...maybe next year my Mets will be that different team.

Dave128 · 10-06-2014, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07

Always good to see different teams in the post season...maybe next year my Mets will be that different team.

jonumberone · 10-06-2014, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07

maybe next year my Mets will be that different team.

I think the Mets can go to the World Series next year!

All they have to do is buy tickets!

icehog3 · 10-06-2014, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone

The Tigers paid dearly for their managers mistakes.
Game 1, you go to your bullpen guys in their roles. I get it. But you can't go back to them in game 2
Dombrowski has to take a hit too.
His team is a perennial playoff competitor, but he's has the same problem every year.
The bullpen has been his Achilles heel.

Spot on, Dom.

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Originally Posted by kelmac07

All great points Dom. I'm waiting on the press conference to say the Tigers have fired Ausmus...HORRIBLE job.

Wonder what Jim Leyland is doing next year?

icehog3 · 10-06-2014, 02:19 PM

KC - Dodgers for this guy.

10-06-2014, 09:06 PM

Bullpen really took a dump on the Tigers. I think the 2015 roster is going to be much different in Detroit. Max will probably walk, seeing as he'll likely be a $30 million/year guy. Victor may go as well, but if you're a Detroit fan I'd think he'd be the first guy to sign back. Kinda the heart of the team.

icehog3 · 10-06-2014, 10:56 PM

I would be ecstatic if they bring VMart back, but unfortunately I don't think it will happen.

Maybe they can take the 20+ million they save on Max and buy themselves a real bullpen.

357 · 10-07-2014, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I would be ecstatic if they bring VMart back, but unfortunately I don't think it will happen.

Maybe they can take the 20+ million they save on Max and buy themselves a real bullpen.

The Tigers will be in big trouble offensively if VMart doesn't come back. Miggy will get walked 100+ times.

jonumberone · 10-12-2014, 07:44 AM

This Royals team is relentless.
I keep waiting for the wheels to come off and for them to fall apart, but they just keep coming.
Game 1, 7th inning, after the caught stealing, and two of the worst called strike threes I've ever seen, I thought they were coming undone.
I'm criticizing Yost for not keeping his players calm and backing them up, particularly Cain, who I thought was going to get ejected.
But they just keep battling!
I'd like to think the O's are going to get a game in KC because they keep coming back, but after yesterday, it's starting to feel like they're a dog chasing its tail.

GTsetGO · 10-12-2014, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone

This Royals team is relentless.
I keep waiting for the wheels to come off and for them to fall apart, but they just keep coming.
Game 1, 7th inning, after the caught stealing, and two of the worst called strike threes I've ever seen, I thought they were coming undone.
I'm criticizing Yost for not keeping his players calm and backing them up, particularly Cain, who I thought was going to get ejected.
But they just keep battling!
I'd like to think the O's are going to get a game in KC because they keep coming back, but after yesterday, it's starting to feel like they're a dog chasing its tail.

it would be nice if the bats didn't go cold with RISP for the Orioles. 3 times in the first 2 games they have the bases loaded and can't get a run across the plate.

that's frustrating.

10-12-2014, 11:04 AM	#2
ChicagoWhiteSox Guest Posts: n/a	Re: 2014 MLB Thread What's the consensus on Max Scherzer? Do the Tigers have room to sign him? I think they probably can but I'm not sure they do. They need to work out something with Price to avoid arbitration, and they also need*(at least I think so) to sign VMart. You look at their rotation without Max and you wonder if it's really necessary for them to offer a lucrative multi year contract to him. I guess what I'm saying is: Max sign with the White Sox!!

10-03-2014, 03:50 PM	#3
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10-03-2014, 03:56 PM	#4
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10-03-2014, 05:26 PM	#6
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10-03-2014, 04:05 PM	#7
jonumberone Raw Dog Join Date: Jun 2010 First Name: Dom Location: Exit 8A Posts: 6,491 Trading: (62)	Re: 2014 MLB Thread I remember Delmon Young killing the Yankees in October when he was on the Tigers. Guess he hasn't lost his touch! __________________ Sex junkie looking for a dealer

10-03-2014, 05:55 PM	#8
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,895 Trading: (60)	Re: 2014 MLB Thread Tigers getting what they deserve, why would Ausmus come back with Jaba? I could be a KC fan by Sunday night. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

10-06-2014, 05:27 AM	#9
jonumberone Raw Dog Join Date: Jun 2010 First Name: Dom Location: Exit 8A Posts: 6,491 Trading: (62)	Re: 2014 MLB Thread So far the Postseason has been great, but, my God, the managing has been awful. . The Tigers paid dearly for their managers mistakes. Game 1, you go to your bullpen guys in their roles. I get it. But you can't go back to them in game 2 Dombrowski has to take a hit too. His team is a perennial playoff competitor, but he's has the same problem every year. The bullpen has been his Achilles heel. I amazed Ned Yost even has a job in baseball. Iv'e never seen a manager that couldn't get out of his own way like this. I have no idea how the Royals won 89 games, let alone 4 playoff games, with him at the helm. I was glad to see the Royals move on. They also seem to hit a bit more than I thought, and the numbers suggest. After watching them steal bases and bunt, down 4 runs in the 8th, against the A's, I didn't think they had any pop. They scratched out the first 2 games, but they did manage to homer in them, and last night they decided to hit 2. And Finally Matt Williams. This guy probably made the worst postseason decision since Grady Little decided to leave Pedro in. Was he watching Zimmerman pitch, or taking a nap in the clubhouse? Sometimes I think the feel for the game is going out. Managers today are so beholden to their stat sheets, lefty-lefty matchups and bullpen roles that they no longer see what's right in front of them. Some of these guys, like Yost, when called upon to make a decision that isn't in their playbook have no idea how to improvise. We saw that with Ausmus too, when he went back to Joba. It's the same nonsense they use to justify when they sit a hot bat against a pitcher he's struggled against in the past. Stuff like that drives me crazy. So, with the remaining teams left, I'm hoping for a KC - St. Louis World Series. How about you? __________________ Sex junkie looking for a dealer

10-06-2014, 05:58 AM	#11
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: 2014 MLB Thread All great points Dom. I'm waiting on the press conference to say the Tigers have fired Ausmus...HORRIBLE job. Don't have a clue what Williams was doing...Zimmerman is tossing a three hitter with two out in the 9th and you take him out. WTF???? As for KC, I love a scrappy team. And Baltimore has looked really good. Although STL is a baseball machine, I'm sick of seeing them play in the Fall Classic, but not so sure the Dodgers can hold them off. Always good to see different teams in the post season...maybe next year my Mets will be that different team. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

10-06-2014, 02:19 PM	#15
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10-06-2014, 09:06 PM	#16
ChicagoWhiteSox Guest Posts: n/a	Re: 2014 MLB Thread Bullpen really took a dump on the Tigers. I think the 2015 roster is going to be much different in Detroit. Max will probably walk, seeing as he'll likely be a $30 million/year guy. Victor may go as well, but if you're a Detroit fan I'd think he'd be the first guy to sign back. Kinda the heart of the team.

10-06-2014, 10:56 PM	#17
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,895 Trading: (60)	Re: 2014 MLB Thread I would be ecstatic if they bring VMart back, but unfortunately I don't think it will happen. Maybe they can take the 20+ million they save on Max and buy themselves a real bullpen. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

10-12-2014, 07:44 AM	#19
jonumberone Raw Dog Join Date: Jun 2010 First Name: Dom Location: Exit 8A Posts: 6,491 Trading: (62)	Re: 2014 MLB Thread This Royals team is relentless. I keep waiting for the wheels to come off and for them to fall apart, but they just keep coming. Game 1, 7th inning, after the caught stealing, and two of the worst called strike threes I've ever seen, I thought they were coming undone. I'm criticizing Yost for not keeping his players calm and backing them up, particularly Cain, who I thought was going to get ejected. But they just keep battling! I'd like to think the O's are going to get a game in KC because they keep coming back, but after yesterday, it's starting to feel like they're a dog chasing its tail. __________________ Sex junkie looking for a dealer Last edited by jonumberone; 10-12-2014 at 07:50 AM.