Lifetime Ban for A-Rod?

[dave]

Good words, Billybarue. Closely mirrors my sentiments. I left baseball for good when it deserted me in '94. It still won't look me in the eye and I won't give it the time of day.

[Col. Kurtz]

Originally Posted by dave

Good words, Billybarue. Closely mirrors my sentiments. I left baseball for good when it deserted me in '94. It still won't look me in the eye and I won't give it the time of day.

QFT. I was the biggest mets fan in the south growing up. Dykstra, strawberry, et. Al. They lost me in 94. Sealed the deal with Alomar's spit. All have been dirty and dead to me since then. Shame MLB. Shame. The roid record chasers affirmed my indignation. Bonds and Mac made a mockery of the sport from my perspective. Could care less about what I have heard is great AAA ball less than 10 & 20 miles from me. What role models? Who should care?

[billybarue]

Originally Posted by Col. Kurtz

QFT. I was the biggest mets fan in the south growing up. Dykstra, strawberry, et. Al. They lost me in 94. Sealed the deal with Alomar's spit. All have been dirty and dead to me since then. Shame MLB. Shame. The roid record chasers affirmed my indignation. Bonds and Mac made a mockery of the sport from my perspective. Could care less about what I have heard is great AAA ball less than 10 & 20 miles from me. What role models? Who should care?

I was stationed at Scott AFB (just outside of St Louis) from '96-'99. I didn't know how great a baseball town it is and what the Cardinals have meant to MLB. I was pissed after '94, but i got sucked back in with the Griffey/McGwire home run race of '97. The deception continued into '98 with Sosa. I remember sitting pretty close to the first base line and commenting to a buddy, "cripes, McGwire's got three sets of traps (shoulders)". The dude was a mountain. He was getting "fisted" inside or throwing away from him. Seems if he got a bat to the ball he had the strength to put the ball out to any spot on command. Personally I liked the guy And loved the antics with Sosa, but the worst deceptions are promulgated by those you feel closest to or identify with. Again, it's not your Game Mac - it's OUR GAME!!!

The memory of McGwire at the press conference with tears in his eyes talking about how proud he was that his bat would sit next to Maris' in the HOF, still turns my stomach. IMO opinion McGwire couldn't carry water for Maris. And Mac taking the 5th in front of Congress and Palmiero shaking his finger at the committee. Not your game fellas, they continue to fail to grasp that point. And we continue to fail to remind them of it!

[gorob23]

Originally Posted by billybarue

it's OUR GAME!!! !

I grew up loving baseball. Played it every waking second. Made my friends play over the line, watched the games on TV, listen to "Scully" on the radio, checked the stats. Couldn't do a lick of math homework but could do ANY baseball stat in the world.

But then

The 1981 Major League Baseball strike was the fourth work stoppage in Major League Baseball since the 1972 Major League Baseball strike.[1] The strike began on June 12 and forced the cancellation of 713 games (or 38 percent of the Major League schedule) in the middle of the regular season. The two sides reached an agreement on July 31, and play resumed on August 9 with the All-Star Game, with regular season play resuming one day later.

My buddy and I were older, fed up and printed t - shirts up and started an organization

F.A.N.S. had the word baseball with the international Red Circle through it (copyrighted) and then they settled. I just realized since then I have coached more games at Chavez Ravine than I have gone to watch

oh Yea FA.N.S. = Fans Announce New Strike

College ball

Rob

[The Poet]

Originally Posted by gorob23

I grew up loving baseball. Played it every waking second. Made my friends play over the line, watched the games on TV, listen to "Scully" on the radio, checked the stats. Couldn't do a lick of math homework but could do ANY baseball stat in the world.

But then

The 1981 Major League Baseball strike was the fourth work stoppage in Major League Baseball since the 1972 Major League Baseball strike.[1] The strike began on June 12 and forced the cancellation of 713 games (or 38 percent of the Major League schedule) in the middle of the regular season. The two sides reached an agreement on July 31, and play resumed on August 9 with the All-Star Game, with regular season play resuming one day later.

My buddy and I were older, fed up and printed t - shirts up and started an organization

F.A.N.S. had the word baseball with the international Red Circle through it (copyrighted) and then they settled. I just realized since then I have coached more games at Chavez Ravine than I have gone to watch

oh Yea FA.N.S. = Fans Announce New Strike

College ball

Rob

That's all well and good, Rob, but how do you justify this opinion with your signature of "I love the Blackhawks"? The NHL has been MUCH worse in this regard to the fans than baseball ever was!

Not trying to start nuttin' or nuttin', just sayin' I don't see the logic . . . or rather, I do see a logical inconsistency here.

[The Poet]

Take this with as much salt as you can stomach, but it is a take nonetheless:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cuban-m...6476--nba.html

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by The Poet

Take this with as much salt as you can stomach, but it is a take nonetheless:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cuban-m...6476--nba.html

Good read. Cuban can be an @$$, but he always speaks his mind.

[shilala]

I feel much the same way as Cuban does, but when he says it there's not much weight left behind it since he's been snubbed by the MLB twice.
Had Aroid got 100 games like he should, it would all be a non-issue. Selig isn't retarded, he knows that. I'm not sure if he thinks he's sending a message to the fans, the players, or it's just his hurt pride.
It just doesn't make sense to say 211 games and know the whole thing will hang in the air forever. He has to know that fans are sick of the PED drama and that every time it plays out in the media, he looks bad for still not having a handle on it after all these years.

[DaBear]

Not trying to get anyone bent out of shape here, but I question strongly the supposed prior "purity" of the game, and the so called "role models" of old. Many of the biggest names in baseball were known drunkards(Mantle, Ruth, etc) amongst other things, so I question how they could be considered "role models"(not saying anyone here implied this, just making a point as many kids, and parents of kids want themselves/their kids to be the next Babe Ruth). Plus, baseball has a history of cheaters within the game. Mickey Mantle is now known to have corked bats(which his family refutes, but independent experts found true). The MLB has never even taken corking bats seriously, with only six suspensions for it in the last 40 years, with the worst of the suspensions lasting 8 games, and former players coming out and admitting to corking as well.

[The Poet]

Originally Posted by DaBear

Not trying to get anyone bent out of shape here, but I question strongly the supposed prior "purity" of the game, and the so called "role models" of old. Many of the biggest names in baseball were known drunkards(Mantle, Ruth, etc) amongst other things, so I question how they could be considered "role models"(not saying anyone here implied this, just making a point as many kids, and parents of kids want themselves/their kids to be the next Babe Ruth). Plus, baseball has a history of cheaters within the game. Mickey Mantle is now known to have corked bats(which his family refutes, but independent experts found true). The MLB has never even taken corking bats seriously, with only six suspensions for it in the last 40 years, with the worst of the suspensions lasting 8 games, and former players coming out and admitting to corking as well.

No doubt, and not only "cheating". Ty Cobb was a nasty racist jerk, and Pete Rose was both a jerk and a liar. Sammy Sosa had a corked bat break at the plate, then denied he knew it was corked. And not to jump on Bear's anti-Yankee bandwagon (), Billy Martin was a mean drunk as well. We could go on forever, though its relevance to the issue (A-Rod's possibly excessive ban) could be questioned.

[DaBear]

Originally Posted by The Poet

No doubt, and not only "cheating". Ty Cobb was a nasty racist jerk, and Pete Rose was both a jerk and a liar. Sammy Sosa had a corked bat break at the plate, then denied he knew it was corked. And not to jump on Bear's anti-Yankee bandwagon (), Billy Martin was a mean drunk as well. We could go on forever, though its relevance to the issue (A-Rod's possibly excessive ban) could be questioned.

My bringing this up comes from seeing a couple posts about how baseball has recently lost its purity(or at least thats how I read it). I'm just trying to point out that it ain't really a recent thing that a)players have been cheating and got caught, and b)baseball has lost its "purity."

[The Poet]

Originally Posted by DaBear

My bringing this up comes from seeing a couple posts about how baseball has recently lost its purity(or at least thats how I read it). I'm just trying to point out that it ain't really a recent thing that a)players have been cheating and got caught, and b)baseball has lost its "purity."

True dat. Ain't nuttin' new under the sun for the boys of summer.

[pnoon]

Ryan Dempster's a low-life thug and should have been tossed.
I'm no fan of A-Rod but Dempster's and the Red Sox are classless.

[kelmac07]

I hear ya Thomas, but every time I turn on ESPN or MLB Network...it's something about him and what he's done/or won't do.

He (any many others included) have turned the game I love into a carnival.

[The Poet]

Hey, think about ME for a second, who lives about a howitzer shot from The Bronx!

I also live a pistol shot from the Jets training facility, and had to deal with Tebowmania LAST year.

[kelmac07]

I feel your pain brother.

[The Poet]

Originally Posted by kelmac07

I feel your pain brother.

No biggie, brother. I haven't liked A-Rod since he dissed his "buddy" Jeter in SI 'way back when. And I haven't liked the Jets since Namath put on pantyhose and a fur coat.

[gorob23]

Originally Posted by The Poet

Namath put on pantyhose and a fur coat.

I remember that, that's about the time I figured out I kinda liked him .. Go Figure

Rob

[The Poet]

Originally Posted by gorob23

I remember that, that's about the time I figured out I kinda liked him .. Go Figure

Rob

Hey, different strokes for different folks, Rob.


Not that there's anything WRONG with that.

[gorob23]

Originally Posted by The Poet

Hey, different strokes for different folks, Rob.


Not that there's anything WRONG with that.

"The man who has confidence in himself gains the confidence of others".
Hasidic Saying

Rob