Official SEC Football Thread 2012

[OLS]

I respect the way you break it down.
For the record, there are a lot of the demi-god variety here. It keeps me hopping.

I agree that you can't blame the fumble or the pick, but the coaching, to me, is fully on the table.
At least to the degree that coaches mold the talent, and the talent was not able to contend with Manziel.
He could not be contained, he could barely be tackled, and rarely by the first person that had a shot.
That was not the first quarter, that was all game long. That is the defense, though, WE definitely means the
team, so you got it half right, haha. I saw passable quarterback play, and a decent running attack.
In the 4th quarter, QB play was top notch.

But on the defense specifically, I was entertained by Gary Danielson saying that the bama defenders were
trying to tap out and the coaches were telling them they had to stay in the game. I know that was just an
observation, your average viewer isn't going to SEE that. But I thought it was ironic that they were gassed, and
the coaching staff made them continue to play on. I am not sure why, character building or lack of depth.
Just not sure what the hell was going on. I have argued with the staunch demi-god crowd that bama does
not have the depth that LSU has, last year I got drubbed because of it, but LSU handled Manziel and bama could
not get it done for whatever reason. Did bama have competent players ready to come in? I sure don't know.
To me that IS coaching....whether it is strength and conditioning, coaches trying to prove a point or punish
players, who knows. But all of the individual mistakes, as you stated, were not the thing that led to a defeat.
I have to call it coaching. Same reason we lost to bama.

[OLS]

I also do realize that bama was awfully banged up, and these are just big, strong kids
after all. They had all they wanted out of LSU the week before. Hell, like I said, maybe
everyone just wants to move on.

[oooo35980]

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, I thought the defense performed exceptionally well after the first quarter, sure they were tired, but they were going 90 miles an hour no huddle out there, anyone would get tired. I think offensively we could have done a better job, and the defense could have showed up earlier, but once they got in the groove they were really beyond reproach.

I also think we passed too much, like Saban bought into the Heisman hype about AJ and felt obligated to use the crap out of him whether it worked or not. Same thing happened with LSU. I'm half convinced that pick was because Saban wanted AJ to have the game winning TD again.

In some cases the score of a game doesn't actual tell the story of which team was better, or even which team played better. Had Bama run in that last TD and won the game everyone would be talking about what an awesome come from behind game, and Bama owned the field for 3 quarters, forgetting the first quarter entirely. As it is the last 3 quarters are forgotten and everyone is acting like A&M walked all over us for 60 minutes and Bama defense was just weak and overrated and couldn't defend itself out of a wet paper sack.

[OLS]

Originally Posted by oooo35980

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree,

YEP, lol....

I'm half convinced that pick was because Saban wanted AJ to have the game winning TD again.

I would not doubt that for a minute, although I am not sure Saban
cares about the actual Heisman, which I do not think AJ could win.

Had Bama run in that last TD and won the game everyone would be talking about what an awesome come from behind game,

Or how stupid he was for trying to run it in, had Lacy gotten stoned at the line...

As it is the last 3 quarters are forgotten and everyone is acting like A&M walked all over us for 60 minutes and Bama defense was just weak and overrated and couldn't defend itself out of a wet paper sack.

A&M was effective enough for 4 quarters to keep the score so close that a last minute pick
effectively ended the game. You were NOT walked over by any means, but you guys did not
come even close to owning the last 3 quarters. If you had you'd be in the BCSNCG no problem.
But I still need to read Rizzle's post, I bet he is telling you what I am telling you now. Just ignore
me. I love to argue LSU or bama. The asylum is stone dead these past 18 months.
Call it something to do.

Going into the game, I gave A&M's defense NO CREDIT. I said so here. NOW? I am thinking
they were pretty damn stout to hold off bama.

[Jefft72]

That was indeed an exciting game! I was pumped after the first quarter, but then had flash backs of all last year when we couldn't finish a game. It was another, "Oh no, here we go again" moment.

I also thought that if Bama continued to pound the ball that you guys could have smashed our defensive line. It's a good thing AJ kept on tossing the ball.

[OLS]

Originally Posted by Jefft72

I also thought that if Bama continued to pound the ball that you guys could have smashed our defensive line. It's a good thing AJ kept on tossing the ball.

You were likely as confused as I was, bama was KILLING us running the ball.
A smart coach who was NOT out-thinking himself, would have finished the
game from that point with NO MORE PASSES, lol. But in the end, LSU lost
BECAUSE he passed and LSU out-thunk their own selves. But I am sure that
bama could have run on every down and obliterated A&M. When your foot is
on the neck of your opponent, you do not let em up.

I UNDERSTAND that in Saban's mind, he had to pass to keep the defense honest.
But when you are bama, you ought to allow the defense to PROVE they can stop
the run before you even CONSIDER honest-keepin' a strategy.

[OLS]

JEEZ, another of the always close, undecided til the end, Ole Miss versus LSU football games.
Ole Miss played a giant football game, had the LSU secondary looking like high schoolers after what
looks like a very nice bit of film study exploitation. Couple that with another whale of a game standing tough
and tall in the pocket by Zach Mettenberger and you have a slim victory by the Tigers, won appropriately with
a daunting running attack. ALL THE best to the Ole Miss Rebels, I hope they get bowl eligible next week.
They deserve it, but they are going to have a TOUGH time with Miss State up. HELL of a game by Ole Miss.
They had LSU's number big time, we were lucky to win.

[oooo35980]

Grats to LSU, game was much closer than most would have guessed. Everything else pretty much business as usual in the SEC.

I think the big winner this Saturday was Bama. Could be Bama ND in the championship?

[longknocker]

Originally Posted by oooo35980

Grats to LSU, game was much closer than most would have guessed. Everything else pretty much business as usual in the SEC.

I think the big winner this Saturday was Bama. Could be Bama ND in the championship?

I Hope So, Brother!

[icehog3]

It would be a pleasure to see Notre Dame play a real football team for a change. Frankly, I think over 1/2 the teams in the SEC could beat them handily.

[Remo]

Wow, there is gonna be a shake-up in the polls!!! Dame may be #1 and they suck!!

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Remo

Wow, there is gonna be a shake-up in the polls!!! Dame may be #1 and they suck!!

It would be a pleasure seeing them crushed in the BCS playoffs.

[longknocker]

Originally Posted by icehog3

It would be a pleasure seeing them crushed in the BCS playoffs.

"Hopefully", BAMA Will Oblige, Brother!

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by longknocker

"Hopefully", BAMA Will Oblige, Brother!

Hopefully Florida will get back in and oblige, Greg!

[longknocker]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Hopefully Florida will get back in and oblige, Greg!

[hammondc]

BAMA / ND would be a game for the ages.

[Powers]

Originally Posted by icehog3

It would be a pleasure to see Notre Dame play a real football team for a change. Frankly, I think over 1/2 the teams in the SEC could beat them handily.

Originally Posted by hammondc

BAMA / ND would be a game for the ages.

My opinion on ND exactly.

Let's talk chaos - if ND loses to Southern Cal and Florida beats their 4th top 10 opponent at FSU next week (toughest schedule in the nation y'all), we'd very likely have another all SEC national championship

[rizzle]

Do you feel that pressure?

[SvilleKid]

Originally Posted by Powers

My opinion on ND exactly.

Let's talk chaos - if ND loses to Southern Cal and Florida beats their 4th top 10 opponent at FSU next week (toughest schedule in the nation y'all), we'd very likely have another all SEC national championship

I think this has as much possibility as a Bama/ND game.

[G G]

Go Bulldogs?