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Old 03-29-2012, 09:08 PM   #1
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I smoke cc's and the occasional nc for a change of pace. To each, his own. I've never been a big fan of the power bombs of most nc's however, I do enjoy them once in awhile.

I think the important thing is not to judge what others enjoy. You can share your opinion if you like the cigar or not as different strokes for different folks however, using a broad brush to say generalities is dangerous and disrespectful.

Even within cc's, there are preferences. There are marcas that I enjoy. Others not so much. At the end of the day, it's about the experience, in terms of the cigar(s) smoked and those who you enjoyed it with.
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:17 PM   #2
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Whenever you find yourself annoyed that others don't like the same cigars you do, consider this: if everyone liked your favorite cigars, they'd be exceedingly hard to find and prohibitively expensive.

So...vive la difference!
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Whenever you find yourself annoyed that others don't like the same cigars you do, consider this: if everyone liked your favorite cigars, they'd be exceedingly hard to find and prohibitively expensive.

So...vive la difference!
To a certain extent... but then again, Habanos has recently discontinued the last of the ninfas, panatela largas and several other long and skinny vitolas to make room for more limited edition toros and petit robustos because that's what's selling, so sometimes there's safety in numbers.
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Old 03-29-2012, 10:18 PM   #4
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Don't remind me. I'm not a fan of the direction habanos SA is headed. Such a shame, if you ask me.
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Old 03-30-2012, 12:11 AM   #5
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It bugs me that some people in this topic talk about nc's all being full bodied. That is not the case, there are shitloads of mild and medium nc's too
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It bugs me that some people in this topic talk about nc's all being full bodied. That is not the case, there are shitloads of mild and medium nc's too

Ya gotta admit though most of the really hyped ones are pretty full, LP and Viaje for instance.
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Ya gotta admit though most of the really hyped ones are pretty full, LP and Viaje for instance.
But there are thousands of NC's, there is a whole world out there besides the hyped ones.
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:44 AM   #8
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It bugs me that some people in this topic talk about nc's all being full bodied. That is not the case, there are shitloads of mild and medium nc's too
I think it's because to CC smokers, the vast majority of NC mild and medium smokes simply don't hold a candle to CCs in terms of complexity and range of flavors. There is NO NC that comes anywhere near the delicate but complex taste and smoking experiece of say, a La Gloria Cubana Medaille D' Or No. 1 or 3. Maybe the OR El Triumphador Lancero comes close in terms of quality of flavors and that light sweetness, but IMO, it is still far from as complex as the any of the best CC lanceros. The only NC cigars that offer me something unique and satifying that I can't find done better and with more complexity and range of flavor somewhere in the Habanos portfolio are the big, peppery Nic flavor bombs like the LE Tats, Pepin line and the Padron Anniversary series. I've had some VR farm rolls that come close to these in flavor and body, but still weren't quite as in your face and chewy. If I feel like a Padron then I feel like a Padron, but if I want something light, then NCs are dead to me.
This is my personal experience, so please don't think I'm saying you're wrong. You're an experienced smoker and I'm sure there are some mild and medium NCs that you love, and for good reason. If you list a couple I might even check them out. I'm simply explaining the thought process behind my (and presumably the other CC smokers) bias, and why we act like there is nothing in the NC world in terms of mild/medium smokes. It's because to many of us, the only NCs worth smoking are the full bodied ones.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:54 AM   #9
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It bugs me that some people in this topic talk about nc's all being full bodied. That is not the case, there are shitloads of mild and medium nc's too
Most of the NCs I prefer tend to be pretty strong, which is fine I just like to be able to smoke without planning my meals out. I think I have a low Nic tollerance. I have not found many NCs that are mild-medium strength that I have been able to really enjoy.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:31 AM   #10
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I prefer cigars that taste amazing, regardless of origin. Several NC's are produced using Cuban seed anyway......but if pressed, CC's all the way! I wonder how this discussion would lean if the former USSR didn't want to park nuclear warheads 100 miles from the United States, and CC's were readily available and priced like NC's!

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Old 03-30-2012, 06:48 AM   #11
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The only things I find consistent in life are my family and beliefs - the rest change. I used to like Titleist ProV1s, now I love Maxflis. A couple of years ago I loved dark roast beans, now I'm drinking blond roast more often than not. I once hated hoppy beers, now I love them. How boring would life be if we settled in ruts and did the same thing all the time. I smoked hundreds of 5 Vegas As years ago, they were my go-tos. I haven't had any in a long and it doesn't bother me in the least. Tastes change. What I like now may be nowhere close to what I like in a year or two (except I'll always love a delicious LGC!).

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Old 03-30-2012, 01:07 PM   #12
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I've read nothing but good reviews of Partagas Shorts...Thinking of buying a box as my first Cubans
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I've read nothing but good reviews of Partagas Shorts...Thinking of buying a box as my first Cubans
Just had a Partagas "Chino"

I really like them when I don't have time for a full cigar. Hope you enjoy your purchase!
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:13 PM   #14
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I've read nothing but good reviews of Partagas Shorts...Thinking of buying a box as my first Cubans
I'm a fan of the Party Short, and it's a good transition from bolder nicaraguans to cubans. They're too small for me, generally speaking, since if I have time to smoke, I want to really enjoy it for a while. But when you don't have the time or want something quick, Party Shorts are fantastic.

Boli PCs are another great option, and the SCdlH El Principe is one of the best little smokes out there right now.
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Boli PCs are another great option, and the SCdlH El Principe is one of the best little smokes out there right now.
EXCEPT as a part of plan to stock all three in great numbers, I would pass on the Short altogether and
stock the Bolivar PC and the El Principes....two PHENOMENAL smokes of great consistency, especially the Bolivar.

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Old 03-30-2012, 02:05 PM   #16
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Do it.

Just do it.




Seriously... do it.
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Old 03-30-2012, 02:34 PM   #18
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Say 'what' again. I dare you. I double dare you motherf%ck%r, say what one more Goddamn time!

But seriously,giving CCs their own section only shows that there are a lot of people on the board that want the section and that many users perceive it as added value to a forum. It is not an indication that the board is biased or prejudiced against NCs. That would be the case if there were NO section on NCs, or if the ToE made an announcement that NC smokers are douchebags and not welcome on the board. So far in this thread, I have only seen insults being thrown in one direction. Pound for pound, there is far more discussion on NC brands on this site, so I don't see how giving habanos smokers a enclave to discuss CCs is in any way preferential, or why it would cause people to get a chip on their shoulder
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