RH problems? - Page 3

pnoon · 02-22-2012, 10:26 AM

You mentioned you like (prefer) 70%. If you have not had a stable 70% from which to smoke on a regular basis, how do you know you prefer 70 over 65 or 60?
I suggest getting a stable RH anywhere in the 60-70% range. Then you can make an informed decision on your preference.
Unfortunately, by ordering a new humidor you are back to square one.
Good luck.
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smitty81 · 02-22-2012, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon

You mentioned you like (prefer) 70%. If you have not had a stable 70% from which to smoke on a regular basis, how do you know you prefer 70 over 65 or 60?
I suggest getting a stable RH anywhere in the 60-70% range. Then you can make an informed decision on your preference.
Unfortunately, by ordering a new humidor you are back to square one.
Good luck.
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I'm new to having sticks at home but I have had them from different places at different RH levels.

I had some at the mentioned 70% about a week ago and I really enjoyed them a lot.

pnoon · 02-22-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

I'm new to having sticks at home but I have had them from different places at different RH levels.

I had some at the mentioned 70% about a week ago and I really enjoyed them a lot.

So you are confident/sure the RH from which you smoked is accurate?

To your second point, "some last week" tells me yo are basing your decision on a very small sample. I would guess your enjoyment was due more to the stick itself than the RH.

Your best bet is to get the humidor stable at any RH first. Then worry about adjusting to a particular number.
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smitty81 · 02-22-2012, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

So you are confident/sure the RH from which you smoked is accurate?

To your second point, "some last week" tells me yo are basing your decision on a very small sample. I would guess your enjoyment was due more to the stick itself than the RH.

Your best bet is to get the humidor stable at any RH first. Then worry about adjusting to a particular number.
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Yes, It was from that java I had. I like them more moist and chewy. It seemd to smoke fine.

I will play with the rh like you say after the humidor is seasoned.

Thanks pnoon.

icehog3 · 02-22-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

you didn't like 70%?

I did.

Then I went 65% and liked it even better.

Now I store at 61-62% and my cigars smoke wonderfully. And age wonderfully as well.

Blak Smyth · 02-22-2012, 10:33 AM

Calibrate your hygro and then put it in with your cigars and beads in the bag/tupper to see where they are at while your new humi gets seasoned. If your cigars are at 70% and your beads are at 70% then when the humi is stable at 70% you should be good to go unless there is a leak. If you put cigars into the 70% seasoned humi and they are anything less than 70% they will begin to suck the RH in and lower your humi RH. Take your time, it will be ready before you know it. I remember when I went through the same issues, it seems like a year but once it is done it is worth it to have a proper funtioning humi.
I hope this is making sense, the coffee sometimes takes over and makes me ramble type.

icehog3 · 02-22-2012, 10:37 AM

I was smoking La Aroma de Cuba Robustos at 70% for a while. Things (tastes, preferences) change with experience. Lots of experience.

smitty81 · 02-22-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I was smoking La Aroma de Cuba Robustos at 70% for a while. Things (tastes, preferences) change with experience. Lots of experience.

you didn't like 70%?

Blak Smyth · 02-22-2012, 10:39 AM

I use to try to keep everything at 70% and I found I had many burn issues. I have found my sticks tend to burn better at 65%.

No worries about the "attitude" brother, just let it go and move on.

smitty81 · 02-22-2012, 11:53 AM

I will keep this humidor and give it longer to season.

With two bowls of water in there, it has been holding at 70% moisture for two days.

How long do I leave it sit at 70% before I procede to put the cigars in?

Does 70% sound about right for the ammount of RH being held in the humidor or does/should it get higher than that while seasoning? (lets just assume the hyg is correct for this question)

I would think a humidor that seals properly should be able to hold about 80% RH but maby i'm wrong?

Subvet642 · 02-22-2012, 12:05 PM

When I seasoned mine, RH got up to about 85%, but that was with a calibrated hygrometer and beads in it. It quickly dropped to about 70% - 72% when I removed the cup of distilled water, and beads and sticks brought it down further to 65%. That's about a 20 point drop between seasoning and storage. It's been stable at ~65% ever since.

fencefixer · 02-22-2012, 06:47 PM

Hypothetical question then.. if his humidor isn't "seasoned right" and it was packed full, what if you add extra humidifiers etc., will it season properly eventually?

dwoodward · 02-22-2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fencefixer

Hypothetical question then.. if his humidor isn't "seasoned right" and it was packed full, what if you add extra humidifiers etc., will it season properly eventually?

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Originally Posted by fencefixer

Hypothetical question then.. if his humidor isn't "seasoned right" and it was packed full, what if you add extra humidifiers etc., will it season properly eventually?

Maybe, but the dry cedar will still suck up some of the RH from your cigars.

EricF · 02-22-2012, 07:06 PM

After reading thru all of the posts, Josh, you stated that you put beads in. My question is do you have enough beads for the humi and were they properly hydrated before you put them in?

I am asking do to the fact that if you put dry beads in then they will absorb the humidity in the humi which will cause the RH to drop.

smitty81 · 02-22-2012, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EricF

After reading thru all of the posts, Josh, you stated that you put beads in. My question is do you have enough beads for the humi and were they properly hydrated before you put them in?

I am asking do to the fact that if you put dry beads in then they will absorb the humidity in the humi which will cause the RH to drop.

They were heartfelt beads, I used the calculations they said to use to figure out the proper size to order.

I got the tube of beads, squirted it with distilled water till they were clear.

MoTheMan · 02-22-2012, 07:19 PM

-- It's a bad humidor . . .

OR

-- It needs more seasoning time. What I've done in the past (before I converted a closed iunto a humi, that is, is wipe it down with a wet cloth, but not so wet as to start raising the grain of the wood lining. But light wet wipes every few days will allow the humidor wood to acclimate quickly.

-- BTW, what brand of humidor is it?!

smitty81 · 02-22-2012, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoTheMan

-- It's a bad humidor . . .

OR

-- It needs more seasoning time. What I've done in the past (before I converted a closed iunto a humi, that is, is wipe it down with a wet cloth, but not so wet as to start raising the grain of the wood lining. But light wet wipes every few days will allow the humidor wood to acclimate quickly.

-- BTW, what brand of humidor is it?!

I thought about doing the wipes..........but I didn't do it.

It's an art deco humidor.

02-22-2012, 10:26 AM	#1
pnoon YNWA Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Peter Location: San Diego Posts: 29,919 Trading: (20)	Re: RH problems? You mentioned you like (prefer) 70%. If you have not had a stable 70% from which to smoke on a regular basis, how do you know you prefer 70 over 65 or 60? I suggest getting a stable RH anywhere in the 60-70% range. Then you can make an informed decision on your preference. Unfortunately, by ordering a new humidor you are back to square one. Good luck. Posted via Mobile Device

02-22-2012, 10:33 AM	#6
Blak Smyth Think Blue! Join Date: Jun 2011 First Name: SD Location: THE WOOD Posts: 8,486 Trading: (52)	Re: RH problems? Calibrate your hygro and then put it in with your cigars and beads in the bag/tupper to see where they are at while your new humi gets seasoned. If your cigars are at 70% and your beads are at 70% then when the humi is stable at 70% you should be good to go unless there is a leak. If you put cigars into the 70% seasoned humi and they are anything less than 70% they will begin to suck the RH in and lower your humi RH. Take your time, it will be ready before you know it. I remember when I went through the same issues, it seems like a year but once it is done it is worth it to have a proper funtioning humi. I hope this is making sense, the coffee sometimes takes over and makes me ramble type. __________________ SUPPORT OUR TROOPS

02-22-2012, 10:37 AM	#7
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,803 Trading: (60)	Re: RH problems? I was smoking La Aroma de Cuba Robustos at 70% for a while. Things (tastes, preferences) change with experience. Lots of experience. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

02-22-2012, 10:39 AM	#9
Blak Smyth Think Blue! Join Date: Jun 2011 First Name: SD Location: THE WOOD Posts: 8,486 Trading: (52)	Re: RH problems? I use to try to keep everything at 70% and I found I had many burn issues. I have found my sticks tend to burn better at 65%. No worries about the "attitude" brother, just let it go and move on. __________________ SUPPORT OUR TROOPS

02-22-2012, 11:53 AM	#10
smitty81 Have My Own Room Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,640 Trading: (10)	Re: RH problems? I will keep this humidor and give it longer to season. With two bowls of water in there, it has been holding at 70% moisture for two days. How long do I leave it sit at 70% before I procede to put the cigars in? Does 70% sound about right for the ammount of RH being held in the humidor or does/should it get higher than that while seasoning? (lets just assume the hyg is correct for this question) I would think a humidor that seals properly should be able to hold about 80% RH but maby i'm wrong?

02-22-2012, 12:05 PM	#11
Subvet642 Bilge Rat Join Date: Nov 2009 First Name: Darren Location: Torpedo Room Bilge Posts: 2,997 Trading: (13)	Re: RH problems? When I seasoned mine, RH got up to about 85%, but that was with a calibrated hygrometer and beads in it. It quickly dropped to about 70% - 72% when I removed the cup of distilled water, and beads and sticks brought it down further to 65%. That's about a 20 point drop between seasoning and storage. It's been stable at ~65% ever since. __________________ *"Man's mind is his basic tool of survival. Life is given to him, survival is not." -John Galt*

02-22-2012, 06:47 PM	#12
fencefixer Feeling at Home Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 544 Trading: (7)	Re: RH problems? Hypothetical question then.. if his humidor isn't "seasoned right" and it was packed full, what if you add extra humidifiers etc., will it season properly eventually?

02-22-2012, 07:06 PM	#14
EricF Ain't Never Gonna Leave Join Date: Oct 2010 First Name: Eric Location: Miramar, FL Posts: 7,004 Trading: (116)	Re: RH problems? After reading thru all of the posts, Josh, you stated that you put beads in. My question is do you have enough beads for the humi and were they properly hydrated before you put them in? I am asking do to the fact that if you put dry beads in then they will absorb the humidity in the humi which will cause the RH to drop. __________________ It might taste crummy, but at least it's huge.

02-22-2012, 07:19 PM	#16
MoTheMan Who Else! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: mo Location: So Cal Posts: 197 Trading: (0)	Re: RH problems? -- It's a bad humidor . . . OR -- It needs more seasoning time. What I've done in the past (before I converted a closed iunto a humi, that is, is wipe it down with a wet cloth, but not so wet as to start raising the grain of the wood lining. But light wet wipes every few days will allow the humidor wood to acclimate quickly. -- BTW, what brand of humidor is it?! __________________ So say I. So say we all!