Blak Smyth's art thread

Blak Smyth · 09-19-2011, 07:46 AM

I have been thinking about starting to do cigar artwork.
I have created this thread to discuss my art, get opinions and display what I have created.

I did my first cigar art pencil sketch this weekend, what do you guys think?
It is about 9"-10" long. It looks much better than the pic gives it justice.

irratebass · 09-19-2011, 08:20 AM

Looks good and better than I could do

wayner123 · 09-19-2011, 08:22 AM

I mean no disrespect personally, but I don't see this as art. It's a simple drawing or sketch. It doesn't convey anything to me other than it's a cigar.

Blak Smyth · 09-19-2011, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by wayner123

I mean no disrespect personally, but I don't see this as art. It's a simple drawing or sketch. It doesn't convey anything to me other than it's a cigar.

I see your point, this "is" only a sketch. It is a starting point, I have not done any cigar art yet so I am just testing the waters.
Personally I see a simple drawing or sketch as art, if it speaks to you personally or not.
Thanks for the opinion though, I respect your honesty.

irratebass · 09-19-2011, 08:42 AM

Isn't art in the eye of the beholder as well?

WittyUserName · 09-19-2011, 09:28 AM

Shane, that is awesome!! Keep up the good work. I love pencil sketches, my grandfather used to sketch his grandchildren and I have a few of them.

Blak Smyth · 09-19-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by WittyUserName

Shane, that is awesome!! Keep up the good work. I love pencil sketches, my grandfather used to sketch his grandchildren and I have a few of them.

That is awesome, make sure you protect those. Those sound like something you want to keep and pass down!

wayner123 · 09-19-2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by irratebass

Isn't art in the eye of the beholder as well?

Yes, it is. But he was looking for comments and I made a point to say that "to me" it wasn't.

irratebass · 09-19-2011, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wayner123

Yes, it is. But he was looking for comments and I made a point to say that "to me" it wasn't.

Understood

That's why I don't really get art, I don't always see what I should and I don't know how to preceive it sometimes that it just frustrates me, but I see your point.

14holestogie · 09-19-2011, 11:26 AM

Looks fine to me, Shane. Growing up surrounded by artistic siblings and other family with not a lick of skill in me, I appreciate your work for what it is. With that said, I think once you get past the sketching phase and into bringing something original from within you to the pad or canvas, that's when you'll really get some accolades.

lawrand · 09-19-2011, 02:31 PM

We are not the first group to ever ask "What is art?". Probably few topics have been more debated excepting "What is the best caliber - 9mm or 45ACP?". While some like wayner123 may not view the simple pencil sketch as "art", the sketch strikes an emotional chord in Mickey and he sees art. Opinions differ, that gives flavor to life.

Whether or not we will agree if it is art, I suspect most,if not all of us will agree that you are an "artist". I say this because of the work you have done on your avatars and their reception in this forum. That work really stands on it's own.

Whatever anyone thinks of your sketch (and I like it very much), I believe that it is only a seed that has been planted and that you certainly have the talent to grow that seed and if it is not "art", it will most certainly lead to "art".

Please do not think I am being flippant or sarcastic, because I'm not. You have the beginnings of a dream and some talent. Pursue that dream. If the art is in you, it will surface.

Ogre · 09-19-2011, 02:37 PM

IMO it is art. Its a skill that not all have. Some people would consider the shed I built art. Its all in what you consider it to be. I like what you have done.

mkarnold1 · 09-19-2011, 02:38 PM

Nice matting and a black frame and I would put that on my man room wall.

Bill86 · 09-19-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by irratebass

Understood

That's why I don't really get art, I don't always see what I should and I don't know how to preceive it sometimes that it just frustrates me, but I see your point.

Yep it's cool that people can draw and paint but more often than not..... I don't get it.

That said looks good.

Blak Smyth · 09-20-2011, 08:56 AM

Okay, so I realize this is very raw and sloppy but that's why I like it.
I was just laying an outline to start painting from and after I was done for the night I actually liked the base outline the way it is. It's kind of dark and raw.
It is a work in progress but I figured I would share:

My plan is to have a cigar in the mouth with the smoke rising up on the left.
I really can't decide if I will detail this or just keep it this sloppy raw look, we will have to see.
I assume this style will appeal more to my personal tastes than most of yours.

Any comments so far?

By the way,
Mike (muhren) is a great painter and a truly generous BOTL. We have been talking in PM's and he has been very helpfull! I highly recomend supporting him and his art! I really appreciate all your help Mike!

Emjaysmash · 09-20-2011, 09:07 AM

I like them all.

Please make more.

WittyUserName · 09-20-2011, 09:23 AM

Brilliant!!!

irratebass · 09-20-2011, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill86

Yep it's cool that people can draw and paint but more often than not..... I don't get it.

That said looks good.

shilala · 09-20-2011, 10:11 AM

I think the pencil sketch is awesome. While the painting is meritous technically, I don't like the subject matter, so it doesn't make me really "look at it", ya know? I had to go back and take a good look (twice) before I was ready to comment, just to be fair, and say it's really pretty awesome. How anyone can make paint do anything is beyond me, and the skull is really very complicated and intricate.
Well done, my man.

I think you're going to really make this thing go in a big way.

jonumberone · 09-20-2011, 10:13 AM

I'm really digging the Skull, Shane!
Very excited to see the finished piece!

09-19-2011, 07:46 AM	#1
Blak Smyth Think Blue! Join Date: Jun 2011 First Name: SD Location: THE WOOD Posts: 8,486 Trading: (52)	Blak Smyth's art thread I have been thinking about starting to do cigar artwork. I have created this thread to discuss my art, get opinions and display what I have created. I did my first cigar art pencil sketch this weekend, what do you guys think? It is about 9"-10" long. It looks much better than the pic gives it justice. __________________ SUPPORT OUR TROOPS

09-19-2011, 08:20 AM	#2
irratebass EMPEROR TOMPKINS Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Mickey Location: Mooresville, Indiana Posts: 8,313 Trading: (48)	Re: Blak Smyth's cigar art thread Looks good and better than I could do __________________

09-19-2011, 08:22 AM	#3
wayner123 Country Gentleman Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 2,351 Trading: (159)	Re: Blak Smyth's cigar art thread I mean no disrespect personally, but I don't see this as art. It's a simple drawing or sketch. It doesn't convey anything to me other than it's a cigar. __________________ 'It is an honor for a man to keep aloof from strife; But every fool will be quarrelling.'

09-19-2011, 08:42 AM	#5
irratebass EMPEROR TOMPKINS Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Mickey Location: Mooresville, Indiana Posts: 8,313 Trading: (48)	Re: Blak Smyth's cigar art thread Isn't art in the eye of the beholder as well? __________________

09-19-2011, 09:28 AM	#6
WittyUserName WOOOHOOO Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Adam Location: Virginia Posts: 1,455 Trading: (15)	Re: Blak Smyth's cigar art thread Shane, that is awesome!! Keep up the good work. I love pencil sketches, my grandfather used to sketch his grandchildren and I have a few of them.

09-19-2011, 11:26 AM	#10
14holestogie Serial banter killer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Clintonville, WI Posts: 4,341 Trading: (52)	Re: Blak Smyth's cigar art thread Looks fine to me, Shane. Growing up surrounded by artistic siblings and other family with not a lick of skill in me, I appreciate your work for what it is. With that said, I think once you get past the sketching phase and into bringing something original from within you to the pad or canvas, that's when you'll really get some accolades. __________________ *I loves me a Parti*

09-19-2011, 02:31 PM	#11
lawrand Just in from the Storm Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Randall Location: Southeast Mo. Posts: 15 Trading: (0)	Re: Blak Smyth's cigar art thread We are not the first group to ever ask "What is art?". Probably few topics have been more debated excepting "What is the best caliber - 9mm or 45ACP?". While some like wayner123 may not view the simple pencil sketch as "art", the sketch strikes an emotional chord in Mickey and he sees art. Opinions differ, that gives flavor to life. Whether or not we will agree if it is art, I suspect most,if not all of us will agree that you are an "artist". I say this because of the work you have done on your avatars and their reception in this forum. That work really stands on it's own. Whatever anyone thinks of your sketch (and I like it very much), I believe that it is only a seed that has been planted and that you certainly have the talent to grow that seed and if it is not "art", it will most certainly lead to "art". Please do not think I am being flippant or sarcastic, because I'm not. You have the beginnings of a dream and some talent. Pursue that dream. If the art is in you, it will surface. __________________ Randall - U.S.M.C. - Vietnam Veteran

09-19-2011, 02:37 PM	#12
Ogre **CENSORED** Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Larry Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,068 Trading: (46)	Re: Blak Smyth's cigar art thread IMO it is art. Its a skill that not all have. Some people would consider the shed I built art. Its all in what you consider it to be. I like what you have done. __________________

09-19-2011, 02:38 PM	#13
mkarnold1 Skol Vikings! Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Mark Location: St. Charles, MN Posts: 1,015 Trading: (22)	Re: Blak Smyth's cigar art thread Nice matting and a black frame and I would put that on my man room wall.

09-20-2011, 08:56 AM	#15
Blak Smyth Think Blue! Join Date: Jun 2011 First Name: SD Location: THE WOOD Posts: 8,486 Trading: (52)	Re: Blak Smyth's cigar art thread Okay, so I realize this is very raw and sloppy but that's why I like it. I was just laying an outline to start painting from and after I was done for the night I actually liked the base outline the way it is. It's kind of dark and raw. It is a work in progress but I figured I would share: My plan is to have a cigar in the mouth with the smoke rising up on the left. I really can't decide if I will detail this or just keep it this sloppy raw look, we will have to see. I assume this style will appeal more to my personal tastes than most of yours. Any comments so far? By the way, Mike (muhren) is a great painter and a truly generous BOTL. We have been talking in PM's and he has been very helpfull! I highly recomend supporting him and his art! I really appreciate all your help Mike! __________________ SUPPORT OUR TROOPS

09-20-2011, 09:07 AM	#16
Emjaysmash The Hebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: M.J. Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 7,025 Trading: (76)	Re: Blak Smyth's cigar art thread I like them all. Please make more. __________________

09-20-2011, 09:23 AM	#17
WittyUserName WOOOHOOO Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Adam Location: Virginia Posts: 1,455 Trading: (15)	Re: Blak Smyth's cigar art thread Brilliant!!!

09-20-2011, 10:11 AM	#19
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Blak Smyth's cigar art thread I think the pencil sketch is awesome. While the painting is meritous technically, I don't like the subject matter, so it doesn't make me really "look at it", ya know? I had to go back and take a good look (twice) before I was ready to comment, just to be fair, and say it's really pretty awesome. How anyone can make paint do anything is beyond me, and the skull is really very complicated and intricate. Well done, my man. I think you're going to really make this thing go in a big way. __________________

09-20-2011, 10:13 AM	#20
jonumberone Raw Dog Join Date: Jun 2010 First Name: Dom Location: Exit 8A Posts: 6,484 Trading: (62)	Re: Blak Smyth's cigar art thread I'm really digging the Skull, Shane! Very excited to see the finished piece! __________________ Sex junkie looking for a dealer