cigars vs cigarettes - Page 2

LasciviousXXX · 07-20-2011, 09:01 PM

Its a new strain. Claro

icehog3 · 07-20-2011, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LasciviousXXX

Its a new strain. Claro

You're a new strain, Brother.

hotreds · 07-20-2011, 09:34 PM

Is that "strain" or "stain?"

T.G · 07-20-2011, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds

Is that "strain" or "stain?"

Ohhhhhh... that's gonna leave a mark.

taltos · 07-21-2011, 11:27 AM

Folks, we have enough problems here in Mass. where the powers that be want to eliminate all tobacco products that I wonder if it is wise to slam one product while supporting another. For the record, I have not smoked a cigarette since I was 18 and I am now 59. It just seems that we need to unite to protect ourselves. Just my

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Subvet642 · 07-21-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by taltos

Folks, we have enough problems here in Mass. where the powers that be want to eliminate all tobacco products that I wonder if it is wise to slam one product while supporting another. For the record, I have not smoked a cigarette since I was 18 and I am now 59. It just seems that we need to unite to protect ourselves. Just my

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You're right, Paul. Those who would ban all tobacco will have a much easier time of it if they pit us against each other. They sure as hell don't need our help doing it.

NCRadioMan · 07-21-2011, 12:07 PM

I wasn't bashing tobacco, I was bashing BIG tobacco. It's because of them, solely, that we are in the predicament we are in these days.

Subvet642 · 07-21-2011, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

I wasn't bashing tobacco, I was bashing BIG tobacco. It's because of them, solely, that we are in the predicament we are in these days.

I don't believe that. We are in this predicament because the various governments have found that they can generate heinous tax revenue with no negative (for them) consequences when they demonize a product. None of it has ever been about health, it has always been about tax revenue, pork barrel politics and re-election. The busy-bodies and the do-gooders will never see a distinction between the different tobacco products because there's no money, or petty political power in that. Anti-tobacco organizations, like all organizations, are organic systems and will behave like any other organism. They must follow the biological imperative of survive, grow and multiply. They will never see an end to their "mission", because that would spell their "death". As Ben Franklin once said: "Gentlemen, we must all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately".

hotreds · 07-21-2011, 12:56 PM

Hear, hear! Actually, I didn't mean to start a massive discussion when I posted the "vs" ramblings; it seemed like a good overview of the difference between the two- especially since many if not most people lump all tobacco together-- all the way to "third hand" smoke nowadays! Nonetheless, bottom line is "nanny" govt that "knows best" for all of us from tobacco to Happy Meals. I love my country, I fear my government!

Subvet642 · 07-21-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds

Hear, hear! Actually, I didn't mean to start a massive discussion when I posted the "vs" ramblings; it seemed like a good overview of the difference between the two- especially since many if not most people lump all tobacco together-- all the way to "third hand" smoke nowadays! Nonetheless, bottom line is "nanny" govt that "knows best" for all of us from tobacco to Happy Meals. I love my country, I fear my government!

Or... as Thomas Paine wrote in Common Sense:
"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer."

hotreds · 07-21-2011, 01:30 PM

"Government is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." - George Washington

"bind them down with the chains of a Constitution.” - Thomas Jefferson

Subvet642 · 07-21-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds

"Government is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." - George Washington

"bind them down with the chains of a Constitution.” - Thomas Jefferson

A couple of good ones!

alfredo_buscatti · 08-08-2011, 02:30 AM

I've smoked cigarettes a half-dozen times over the course of my life; but I always quit, liking these smokes but not their effects on my body. Although I can't smoke a cigar or pipe on demand, like a cigarette, it's worth the wait.

And I don't get chest pains.

07-20-2011, 09:01 PM	#21
LasciviousXXX Team of 11...Always Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Týr Location: New Orleans Posts: 4,579 Trading: (8)	Re: cigars vs cigarettes Its a new strain. Claro

07-20-2011, 09:34 PM	#23
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,662 Trading: (63)	Re: cigars vs cigarettes Is that "strain" or "stain?" __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

07-21-2011, 11:27 AM	#25
taltos Really, really old Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Paul Location: Saugus, MA Posts: 2,486 Trading: (3)	Re: cigars vs cigarettes Folks, we have enough problems here in Mass. where the powers that be want to eliminate all tobacco products that I wonder if it is wise to slam one product while supporting another. For the record, I have not smoked a cigarette since I was 18 and I am now 59. It just seems that we need to unite to protect ourselves. Just my . __________________ Jimmy, some of its magic, some of its tragic, but I had a good life all the way. He Went to Paris, J. Buffett

07-21-2011, 12:07 PM	#27
NCRadioMan Chutney Lovebusciut Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chutney Location: On the shores of Loch Shiel Posts: 4,277 Trading: (66)	Re: cigars vs cigarettes I wasn't bashing tobacco, I was bashing BIG tobacco. It's because of them, solely, that we are in the predicament we are in these days. __________________ The path to loyalty is trust.

07-21-2011, 12:56 PM	#29
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,662 Trading: (63)	Re: cigars vs cigarettes Hear, hear! Actually, I didn't mean to start a massive discussion when I posted the "vs" ramblings; it seemed like a good overview of the difference between the two- especially since many if not most people lump all tobacco together-- all the way to "third hand" smoke nowadays! Nonetheless, bottom line is "nanny" govt that "knows best" for all of us from tobacco to Happy Meals. I love my country, I fear my government! __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

07-21-2011, 01:30 PM	#31
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,662 Trading: (63)	Re: cigars vs cigarettes "Government is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." - George Washington "bind them down with the chains of a Constitution.” - Thomas Jefferson __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

08-08-2011, 02:30 AM	#33
alfredo_buscatti Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Piedmont, NC Posts: 277 Trading: (9)	Re: cigars vs cigarettes I've smoked cigarettes a half-dozen times over the course of my life; but I always quit, liking these smokes but not their effects on my body. Although I can't smoke a cigar or pipe on demand, like a cigarette, it's worth the wait. And I don't get chest pains.