Audi vs BMW

Noodles · 06-17-2011, 09:53 AM

It might be time for to replace my 02 WRX.

I'm looking at 2006 BMW 330CI with 55+K miles and a 2008 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro with 68K+ miles.

This will be my first German car. I've always owned Japanese cars before.

I need some input from owners or former owners.

Thanks.

PeteSB75 · 06-17-2011, 09:58 AM

Buy an Acura

Mugen910 · 06-17-2011, 10:08 AM

Get a Merc....I've always been told not to buy a used Audi unless you've got the $ to fix it out of warranty. I'm not a bimmer fan so I won't comment.

e-man67 · 06-17-2011, 10:14 AM

I have owned a number of cars and currently own a BMW 525...This is the easiest car I have ever worked on..love it..and if you buy parts online they are not that bad price wise. I would stay away from Audi...My neighbor had an A4 and it sucked getting to anything in the engine compartment..he was always having problems with it....

loki · 06-17-2011, 10:22 AM

buying a used german car is never........................EVER a good idea. I've got a friend who is a service writer for bmw, he's said time and time again that the newer bmw's are only to be leased. 3 years and out on them. Buy a quality car, not a badge

DBall · 06-17-2011, 10:32 AM

I bought a BMW (02 330i w/ 45k) a couple years back. Hassle free and easily the best car I've ever owned. I vote BMW...

themoneycollector · 06-17-2011, 10:36 AM

Between the 330 and A4, I'd go with the 330.

06-17-2011, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteSB75

Buy an Acura

I agree with Pete!

ZachF88 · 06-17-2011, 10:53 AM

I love both brands, since I drive an RS4 and my wife drives an X5. The X5 is pretty easy to work on. The Audi is a lot harder (Could be since it's an RS4). Audi has the over engineering of Porsche, but with VW parts. Both cars are pretty reliable. The 2.0T is very tunable, but it is a 4 cyl. turbo. If you do get this, I recoomend getting the APR software onit (+35whp). The 330 is an inline 6, which I have always loved and is very solid! Both cars are great cars, but very different from each other. If you live in a winter climate, no doubt go with the quattro. If not, then a RWD makes more sense. I would just recommend that you drive each one, and see which one you like the most.

poker · 06-17-2011, 11:02 AM

Currently own a BMW (E46) M3. Prior to that I had a Audi (B6) S4 (both bought when new). The Audi had a much better interior finish than the BMW but the BMW was much faster

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Both cars are expensive to repair if out of warranty. My personal opinion is was that the S4 was more of a luxury car that went fast. The M3 was a fast car that they tried to make daily driving possible. Either way they are both very nice cars and I was happy with both of them. Although I dont drive the M3 anymore (looking to sell it), I liked it a tad better then the S4.

replicant_argent · 06-17-2011, 11:05 AM

I have had 4 BMWs, (all used, bought smart, and in good service history and condition) and loved everyone of them.
Having been a service writer for over a decade for other marques, I can attest to the reliability, serviceability, performance, and build quality of them. I personally would stay away from 7 series, in conversations with my go to shop, but I don't think I have been merely "lucky" with repair history and general experience of ownership. Parts availability is good to excellent from non OEM suppliers (getting OEM parts, even), and found the few things I have had to repair straightforward and relatively well laid out, engineered, designed, and quite serviceable. Those items I haven't done or wanted to get into considering the climate I live in, have been taken care of by an affordable, well trained former BMW technician.

I have found the naysayers have never owned one. Take that grain of salt for what it is worth.

Genetic Defect · 06-17-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by loki

buying a used german car is never........................EVER a good idea. I've got a friend who is a service writer for bmw, he's said time and time again that the newer bmw's are only to be leased. 3 years and out on them. Buy a quality car, not a badge

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Remo · 06-17-2011, 11:35 AM

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mmblz · 06-17-2011, 12:05 PM

I love my 98 M Roadster.
Bought it 7 years ago and have never had a problem other than a leaky A/C.

ade06 · 06-17-2011, 12:12 PM

We have a 2005 A4 and it does great in the winter. We have over 100k miles on the car and she still runs great.

mosesbotbol · 06-17-2011, 12:28 PM

Good comments so far. I would stay away from a used Audi and that's coming from a British and Italian car owner...

You have to drive both and consider whether quattro is really worth the wear and tear. BMW is more for "the driver".

Which one has a cooler color combo?

themoneycollector · 06-17-2011, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noodles

It might be time for to replace my 02 WRX.

I re-read it and noticed you are a fellow WRX driver.

Why such a departure from the WRX to either of the two you mentioned?

BlindedByScience · 06-17-2011, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteSB75

Buy an Acura

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mugen910

Get a Merc....I've always been told not to buy a used Audi unless you've got the $ to fix it out of warranty. I'm not a bimmer fan so I won't comment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by loki

buying a used german car is never........................EVER a good idea. I've got a friend who is a service writer for bmw, he's said time and time again that the newer bmw's are only to be leased. 3 years and out on them. Buy a quality car, not a badge

....you know, I hear comments like this all the time and I disagree. Having owned several German cars over the years, I think I can offer some perspective. My current daily driver is a VW Jetta TDI with 130K on it (love the 45+ MPG), and the wife's car is a BMW X3 with 50K on it. Both our cars have been completely reliable and great to drive.

German cars don't just need proper service, they seem to require it. The reward is an extremely reliable platform that is a blast to drive. All I'm talking about here is the factory recommended maintenance. The other point is to find a shop that really knows these cars well. I have a guy where I live that's a complete TDI diesel head; he drives one, and knows these cars inside and out. He is better than the dealer locally for these cars, and he gets all my work. The wife takes her BeeEmm to the dealer locally because they have an excellent reputation for doing quality service, for the last 25 years or so.

Moral of the story is that a new or properly maintained German car can be a solid investment, but I wouldn't touch a used one that didn't come with up to date service records, performed by a shop that knows what they are doing.

FWIW - N.F.H.

mosesbotbol · 06-17-2011, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themoneycollector

I re-read it and noticed you are a fellow WRX driver.

Why such a departure from the WRX to either of the two you mentioned?

I had an '02 WRX (wagon) too.

Noodles · 06-17-2011, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loki

buying a used german car is never........................EVER a good idea. I've got a friend who is a service writer for bmw, he's said time and time again that the newer bmw's are only to be leased. 3 years and out on them. Buy a quality car, not a badge

So are you saying a BMW is not a quality car?

06-17-2011, 09:53 AM	#1
Noodles Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 412 Trading: (2)	Audi vs BMW It might be time for to replace my 02 WRX. I'm looking at 2006 BMW 330CI with 55+K miles and a 2008 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro with 68K+ miles. This will be my first German car. I've always owned Japanese cars before. I need some input from owners or former owners. Thanks.

06-17-2011, 09:58 AM	#2
PeteSB75 Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: CT Posts: 1,674 Trading: (18)	Re: Audi vs BMW Buy an Acura __________________ Formerly Malik23

06-17-2011, 10:08 AM	#3
Mugen910 I <3 Huy Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Location Location: First Name Posts: 8,387 Trading: (106)	Re: Audi vs BMW Get a Merc....I've always been told not to buy a used Audi unless you've got the $ to fix it out of warranty. I'm not a bimmer fan so I won't comment. __________________ I'm not antisocial, I just think people are stupid.

06-17-2011, 10:14 AM	#4
e-man67 Big Drunkin Monkey!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Eric Posts: 1,480 Trading: (29)	Re: Audi vs BMW I have owned a number of cars and currently own a BMW 525...This is the easiest car I have ever worked on..love it..and if you buy parts online they are not that bad price wise. I would stay away from Audi...My neighbor had an A4 and it sucked getting to anything in the engine compartment..he was always having problems with it.... __________________ Big hairy Ape chuggin whiskey by the barrel full..making ladies cry!

06-17-2011, 10:22 AM	#5
loki H.A.T.E Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pittsburgh pa Posts: 1,484 Trading: (7)	Re: Audi vs BMW buying a used german car is never........................EVER a good idea. I've got a friend who is a service writer for bmw, he's said time and time again that the newer bmw's are only to be leased. 3 years and out on them. Buy a quality car, not a badge

06-17-2011, 10:32 AM	#6
DBall Cigar Jesus Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 3,781 Trading: (46)	Re: Audi vs BMW I bought a BMW (02 330i w/ 45k) a couple years back. Hassle free and easily the best car I've ever owned. I vote BMW... __________________ --------Dan--------- My Music \| My Videos

06-17-2011, 10:36 AM	#7
themoneycollector Nicotiana Tabacum Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hill AFB, UT Posts: 1,258 Trading: (108)	Re: Audi vs BMW Between the 330 and A4, I'd go with the 330.

06-17-2011, 10:53 AM	#9
ZachF88 Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Zach Location: Denver, CO Posts: 510 Trading: (32)	Re: Audi vs BMW I love both brands, since I drive an RS4 and my wife drives an X5. The X5 is pretty easy to work on. The Audi is a lot harder (Could be since it's an RS4). Audi has the over engineering of Porsche, but with VW parts. Both cars are pretty reliable. The 2.0T is very tunable, but it is a 4 cyl. turbo. If you do get this, I recoomend getting the APR software onit (+35whp). The 330 is an inline 6, which I have always loved and is very solid! Both cars are great cars, but very different from each other. If you live in a winter climate, no doubt go with the quattro. If not, then a RWD makes more sense. I would just recommend that you drive each one, and see which one you like the most.

06-17-2011, 11:02 AM	#10
poker 1:11 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Kelly Location: SoCal Posts: 5,280 Trading: (7)	Re: Audi vs BMW Currently own a BMW (E46) M3. Prior to that I had a Audi (B6) S4 (both bought when new). The Audi had a much better interior finish than the BMW but the BMW was much faster . Both cars are expensive to repair if out of warranty. My personal opinion is was that the S4 was more of a luxury car that went fast. The M3 was a fast car that they tried to make daily driving possible. Either way they are both very nice cars and I was happy with both of them. Although I dont drive the M3 anymore (looking to sell it), I liked it a tad better then the S4. __________________ Cigar Asylum: A cigar board birthed without agendas, without profiting, and without advertisements. Amor puro Character is what you do when no one is watching Last edited by poker; 06-17-2011 at 11:11 AM.

06-17-2011, 11:05 AM	#11
replicant_argent Gravy Boat Winnah. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: my attorney has advised against giving this information to insane people Posts: 5,326 Trading: (22)	Re: Audi vs BMW I have had 4 BMWs, (all used, bought smart, and in good service history and condition) and loved everyone of them. Having been a service writer for over a decade for other marques, I can attest to the reliability, serviceability, performance, and build quality of them. I personally would stay away from 7 series, in conversations with my go to shop, but I don't think I have been merely "lucky" with repair history and general experience of ownership. Parts availability is good to excellent from non OEM suppliers (getting OEM parts, even), and found the few things I have had to repair straightforward and relatively well laid out, engineered, designed, and quite serviceable. Those items I haven't done or wanted to get into considering the climate I live in, have been taken care of by an affordable, well trained former BMW technician. I have found the naysayers have never owned one. Take that grain of salt for what it is worth. __________________ www.stogietorch.com Some days call for a stiff Pomade. Last edited by replicant_argent; 06-17-2011 at 11:11 AM.

06-17-2011, 11:35 AM	#13
Remo C.I.A Join Date: Feb 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Palm Harbor, Florida Posts: 12,597 Trading: (122)	Re: Audi vs BMW My vote __________________

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mmblz .090909... Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NH Posts: 4,031 Trading: (3)	Re: Audi vs BMW I love my 98 M Roadster. Bought it 7 years ago and have never had a problem other than a leaky A/C. __________________ herf wear

06-17-2011, 12:12 PM	#15
ade06 Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ade Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,190 Trading: (24)	Re: Audi vs BMW We have a 2005 A4 and it does great in the winter. We have over 100k miles on the car and she still runs great.

06-17-2011, 12:28 PM	#16
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Audi vs BMW Good comments so far. I would stay away from a used Audi and that's coming from a British and Italian car owner... You have to drive both and consider whether quattro is really worth the wear and tear. BMW is more for "the driver". Which one has a cooler color combo? __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's