Tatuaje Saints & Sinners club

[mcmoyer]

Originally Posted by elderboy02

I am in

Yup....

[pnoon]

Some folks think this "club" is great. Others think it's BS. There are even some on the fence.

One thing is certain. No matter what your position, there will be tolerance for opposing points of view. For those that can't read between the lines, be civil or move on.
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[Trent0341]

That SS smoke kit looks suspiciously like a box of cigars... I know I've knocked the large numbers of LE releases in the past but I find it tempting (and hard to believe that PJ would charge $150 for just some swag).

Originally Posted by Trent0341

That SS smoke kit looks suspiciously like a box of cigars...

Looks a lot like the Face 10 count box. The Face is a VERY BIG cigar. Imagine what they can put in one of those "Smoke kits." I would join, but i have to check the finances first. As far as the "lifestyle" goes, I'm not in it for that.

[Brooks W]

Originally Posted by Trent0341

That SS smoke kit looks suspiciously like a box of cigars... I know I've knocked the large numbers of LE releases in the past but I find it tempting (and hard to believe that PJ would charge $150 for just some swag).

It is a cigar box, it is actually the same box the "Outlaw" Tats came in...



~brooks

[jovenhut]

Originally Posted by Brooks W

It is a cigar box, it is actually the same box the "Outlaw" Tats came in...



~brooks

[Trent0341]

Originally Posted by Brooks W

It is a cigar box, it is actually the same box the "Outlaw" Tats came in...


~brooks

Thanks for the pic... I've rolled the dice on this one. I'm willing to bet PJ comes through.

Your membership does include cigars. Pete confirms it on the site, and from the sound of it, the people who told you that it would be a mix of regular production, limited edition, and prototypes got it right.

At the end of the day, you have to decide if it's worth it to you. For me it was. YMMV. What I don't understand is why people feel the need to bash those who find value in it or Pete for giving his fans what many of them asked for.

[LostAbbott]

Originally Posted by Seasick Sailor

Your membership does include cigars. Pete confirms it on the site, and from the sound of it, the people who told you that it would be a mix of regular production, limited edition, and prototypes got it right.

At the end of the day, you have to decide if it's worth it to you. For me it was. YMMV. What I don't understand is why people feel the need to bash those who find value in it or Pete for giving his fans what many of them asked for.

I think the people who are bashing this club are those who have chases NC LE's in the past and are feeling burned out on it with this club. I think it happens with every new le release, but more so with this as the benefits of the club are so vague.
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Originally Posted by Seasick Sailor

Your membership does include cigars. Pete confirms it on the site, and from the sound of it, the people who told you that it would be a mix of regular production, limited edition, and prototypes got it right.

At the end of the day, you have to decide if it's worth it to you. For me it was. YMMV. What I don't understand is why people feel the need to bash those who find value in it or Pete for giving his fans what many of them asked for.

^

Originally Posted by LostAbbott

I think the people who are bashing this club are those who have chases NC LE's in the past and are feeling burned out on it with this club. I think it happens with every new le release, but more so with this as the benefits of the club are so vague.
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And with S&S, there is no chasing.......kind of ironical

Originally Posted by Seasick Sailor

What I don't understand is why people feel the need to bash those who find value in it or Pete for giving his fans what many of them asked for.

Cognitive dissonance.

[Loon]

And now we can all bow our heads with great respect and
genuflect genuflect genuflect.

Originally Posted by Loon

And now we can all bow our heads with great respect and
genuflect genuflect genuflect.

[muhren]

After much back & forth (with myself) I came to a very sound decision based on one thing - You only live once.

I'm now #152.

For those doing the math - with me signed up at 152 (x$150) that is $22,800 made in a couple days for Pete! (minus his costs of course)

would it be fun to see a running income total on this or not?? -

M

[Trent0341]

Originally Posted by muhren

After much back & forth (with myself) I came to a very sound decision based on one thing - You only live once.

I'm now #152.

For those doing the math - with me signed up at 152 (x$150) that is $22,800 made in a couple days for Pete! (minus his costs of course)

would it be fun to see a running income total on this or not?? -

M

I can't imagine that after expenses and whatever donation he's making to charity that this affects his bottom line much. I am curious as to how many people this will draw?

[muhren]

Originally Posted by Trent0341

I can't imagine that after expenses and whatever donation he's making to charity that this affects his bottom line much. I am curious as to how many people this will draw?

You're thinking he's not generating income from the sign-up fee?

I'm basing this on a fellow (manufacturer) I spoke on the phone with who let slip that they sell to retailers at about 50% of what's charged. This was on a particular stick, but still, I would think around 11K of that is profit.

But, he would have to pay for web programming as well. Shipping, etc. So, maybe less...I guess he's not making half profit, but he (or anyone for that matter) is not in business to break even.

M

[Trent0341]

Originally Posted by muhren

You're thinking he's not generating income from the sign-up fee?

I'm basing this on a fellow (manufacturer) I spoke on the phone with who let slip that they sell to retailers at about 50% of what's charged. This was on a particular stick, but still, I would think around 11K of that is profit.

But, he would have to pay for web programming as well. Shipping, etc. So, maybe less...I guess he's not making half profit, but he (or anyone for that matter) is not in business to break even.

M

Mike,
I agree with what you're saying. I just don't think that $20-30k is going to make much difference on his bottom line. I know some people say he's doing this for the money and like you said he isn't in business to break even but I don't think this is going to make or break him. All the best, Dan

[KidRock]

Originally Posted by Trent0341

Mike,
I agree with what you're saying. I just don't think that $20-30k is going to make much difference on his bottom line. I know some people say he's doing this for the money and like you said he isn't in business to break even but I don't think this is going to make or break him. All the best, Dan

agreed, excellent post!

[muhren]

Originally Posted by Trent0341

Mike,
I agree with what you're saying. I just don't think that $20-30k is going to make much difference on his bottom line. I know some people say he's doing this for the money and like you said he isn't in business to break even but I don't think this is going to make or break him. All the best, Dan

D,

True dat! Even if it's a loss leader it gets a captive audience ready to buy whatever is new....ya know. IF he makes money...plus for him!

Side note for everyone else...

IF you sign up (I know some of you have) stop in the new member section and say hey (I'm the same screen name)...so I know who to add to my friend list!

M

[srduggins]

I'm on the fence. Normally, I'd be all over this, but I have plenty to smoke and not smoking as many NCs these days. Plus I'd hate to smoke one stick, love it, and not have any more, or any other chance of getting more.